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I am interested in starting an oil analysis at my plant. Besides the basic viscosity test and spectrochemical tests, what other test should I be ask for from the ab I chose?
 
Posts: 1 | Registered: Wed July 21 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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It all depends on what your looking for, what you want to monitor, what type of lubricants and the applications. For general condition monitoring you would want ISO 4406-99 particle counts, probably a spectro-analysis, to monitor additives and elemental concentrations, a Karl Fisher water test, viscosity of course, and on exception wear debris analysis, along with TAN or TBN depending upon the lubricant type and application. Of course there are various different test that will render the same basic results, the test employed are fairly dependant upon the lubricant and application. You will need to have a clear idea of what you are looking for first and then consult with the lab that you choose and ask them if there are any further recommendations. Most commercial labs have an arsenal of test at their disposal, and can help you determine what is the best test for whatever you want to monitor. I might also suggest that if at all possible, try to attend a Noria training class such as Oil Analysis I or some other training class in Oil analysis. This will give you a much greater understanding and enable you to communicate more effectivly with the lab that you choose
 
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Walter,

It looks like you do not know what you need. Some times start an inadecuate oil analysis program is the best way to waste money. There are companies availables in the amrket to design the right oil analysis program for you.
Where you are located? I can give you some tips.
 
Posts: 84 | Location: Maracaibo, Zulia, Venezuela | Registered: Thu March 04 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hello,

You said there are some companies that know the right oil analysis program. I am trying to set up an oil analysis lab and I am learning the best techniques to apply in used oil analysis. Can you give some tips about companies which choose the right test slate for particular machines and oils?
 
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Duarte,

If you could please send me an email with your location I will reply it with some contact information.
 
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My email is tfdavid@isq.pt. The location is Portugal.

Thanks.
 
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I would like to know how can i get access to some typical new and used car oil analysis. If someone can help me please send me an e-mail to martiquecas@portugalmail.com. Thanks.
 
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I have several anlysis reports I will scan and email you ASAP the miles vary and all from SUV type vehicles with all city driving on them. Will this help?

All iol changes at 5000 miles or less, What exactly are you looking for I may be ab le to narrow it down a bit for you.


Eugene Reeves
 
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You may want to follow suit of the US Military and utilize an in-house oil analysis instrument as a screening tool to determine which samples should be included for lab analysis.

The OilCheck detects and measures the dielectric constant of oil. By comparing the measurements obtained from used and unused oils of the same brand, the TMEH1 OilCheck is able to determine the degree of change in the condition of the oil.

Dielectric change is directly related to the degradation and the contamination level of the oil and will allow the user to achieve optimized intervals between oil changes and detect increased mechanical wear and loss of the oils lubricating properties.

http://www.maintenanceproductsdirect.com/Products_Instruments/SKF-TMEH_1.htm
 
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