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Level 2 - 51 to 100 posts |
I received an interesting PDS today from a sales rep. I am told this oil is good for 25k+.
What is everyones opinion of this PDS?
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Level 3 - 101 to 250 posts |
Looks pretty stout. What brand?
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Level 2 - 51 to 100 posts |
Here's the part I intentionnally left out.
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
Notice the silence in the room now! They have what they have been asking for!! Captain Kirk 2008 JEEP G.C. V-8/2009 MUSTANG V6/2002 VW 1.8T ALL VEHICLES/EQUIPMENT RUNNING WITH SYNLUBE LUBE-4-LIFE |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
Notice how many years it took to provide basic info.
My opinion? Made up recently. If it exsisted earlier, it would of been posted when the info was asked for rather than all the misdirection and deflection. I'll stick with what I use. Didn't take years, the use of several websites, and boatloads of insults from the acolytes, to do that. BTW, I knew what it was. The 5w-50 was a dead giveaway. Still not ACEA rated, so it's a no go for me. Strange that they send someone an email rather that posting said info themselves. Or in the other thread rather than the rants. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Trajan, Anecdotes are useful for stories and tall tales. To make decisions you need data. |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
And of course the info has been on the synlube lube-4-life website all along to those who care to look it up in the first place like was done here by taterandnoodles. You can even send and recieve emails too. Nice Job! I have been doing that since the year 2002. Captain Kirk 2008 JEEP G.C. V-8/2009 MUSTANG V6/2002 VW 1.8T ALL VEHICLES/EQUIPMENT RUNNING WITH SYNLUBE LUBE-4-LIFE |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
Ummmm, he didn't look it up, it was emailed to him.
The PDS has not been on the website. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Trajan, Anecdotes are useful for stories and tall tales. To make decisions you need data. |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
Looks like a 50 grade oil that would do poorly at cold start protection with that 40*C number. It would certainly void any warranty for an engine calling for a 20 grade or 30 grade oil. TBN 11.8? Ultra and almost all of Amsoil products have a higher TBN, and that's off the top of my head.
This oil lasts 150,000 miles? I'll pass. At least they could have made the numbers look a little better, after all they made the PDF file. I'll pass. Funny if it was on their site why didn't one of the company shills post it here and on the other board? That would have saved pages and pages of BS. AD US Navy. Helping keep us safe. |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
Yep. Using it in a new cae will void the mfg warranty.
And the Synlube "warranty" demands that you change it every 50K miles on your new car. So much for the "never change" claim. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Trajan, Anecdotes are useful for stories and tall tales. To make decisions you need data. |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
Could u imagine going into a dealer complaining of a lifter tick, or a start up knock? A car under a 5 year 100K warranty, third year with 45K on the Synlube fill. Then when asked what oil were you using you inform the dealer "Synlube", "oil for life". Then you explain the process and that you used the proper filter and followed all directions to the letter. You'd be laughed out of the shop. Then inform Snlube of your woes asking for Synlube to replace the bad cam or sludged up engine. They'd probably hang up and laugh, if you could even find them.
AD US Navy. Helping keep us safe. |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
Or when you take your new car in for its warranty service check and you tell them not to change the oil?
That will go over real well. Anecdotes are useful for stories and tall tales. To make decisions you need data. |
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Level 3 - 101 to 250 posts |
I have no interest in running any oil more than 12-15k miles so I could care less about the product personally.
I'm very skeptical of Synlube. Oil is cheap, it's not worth the risk. The PDS looks fine, but that doesn't tell you much. Thanks for sharing though. |
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Level 4 - 251 to 500 posts |
Trajan,
The info furnished by you, is physio chem properties. I would prefer to use a long drain oil after seeing which "Performance levels," it meets, like API, ILSAC etc.. Hussam |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
The info in this thread was not furnished by me, except for the statement that synlube is not ACEA rated.
I only use BMW approved oils in my Z4. Which means in my case ACEA A3/B3, and LL-01. Synlube meets neither. Anecdotes are useful for stories and tall tales. To make decisions you need data. |
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Level 3 - 101 to 250 posts |
My first glance at the first post raised several questions.
5W-50? too viscous for new car warranties. 201 VI. Really? Phosphorous may be high enough to kill a cat. We have emissions testing. Not near enough info there to make an intelligent decision. SAe 5W-50 Iso 100 A broad range and a narrow spec. hmmmm. Nope, not buying it. |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
Why would the phosphorous kill the Cat. if my engine is using less then 1 qt in 20,000 miles,which is my actual case on several cars. There has been actual emission tests done with synlube to back this. I have never had an emission issue with synlube. The EPA,FTC,and so forth would be all over the company if that were the case. Yet no issues there as well. Captain Kirk 2008 JEEP G.C. V-8/2009 MUSTANG V6/2002 VW 1.8T ALL VEHICLES/EQUIPMENT RUNNING WITH SYNLUBE LUBE-4-LIFE |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
He said *may* be high enough to kill a cat. Not *is* high enough.
Big difference between the two words. Anecdotes are useful for stories and tall tales. To make decisions you need data. |
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Level 3 - 101 to 250 posts |
Too small to get their attention? |
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Level 5 - 501 to 1000 posts |
I'd say so. Anecdotes are useful for stories and tall tales. To make decisions you need data. |
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Level 4 - 251 to 500 posts |
Most Synthetic oils have a Specific Gravity ( or Density) at 1.0 or above. It is strange that this oil has Density at 0.926
Hussam |
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