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Originally posted by kanling:
The xenophobia on BITOG is incredible.

Ha ha ha, fully agreed...........

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Originally posted by Dad2leia:
... There are still a few very good members there, such as bruce381, TallPaul, buster, Johnny just to name a few....

Wow! I am humbled to be named in the same line as Bruce and Johnny. They are the pros and really know their stuff. Me, I just fool around with it for fun. Thanks anyway. I know you meant it not for who knows the most, but for those who are straightforward and not buying into the BS.

Hey, I got kicked off BITOG too! I told G-MAN that Harleys (and his Harley) were only good for parades, poker-runs, polishing, profiling, and posers and he said I was history. They were a bunch of overly-sensitive girls, IMHO

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You didn't mention that at HOG meets, they regularly do rice burner bonfires of the fact that a Harley rider never reciprocates the common courtesy gesture among other motorcycle riders if the other rider is riding a Japanese made bike.

As for BITOG, they are signing their own doom.

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Originally posted by Dad2leia:
Just for giggles I've started to post a few comments, questions, and the like there once again. There are still a few very good members there, such as bruce381, TallPaul, buster, Johnny just to name a few.

But, for the most part, it has turned into a my opinion/facts are more correct than yours are war of rubbish and lest we forget that GC (German Castrol) is the Holy Grail of all lubricants for the modern piston engine!!

I'll still visit, 'cause I missed this oil stuff!!!

Thanks for the compliment. I try my best not to be biased.

You never are Johnny. I forgot to mention AEHass and MolaKule, who is finally posting once again.

In the recent few weeks, it has seemed to calm down a bit, at least for most of the more educated posters and some newbies with honest questions to ask.

One thing that I wish they would work on is the search function. Whatever they did do it, you really can't pinpoint the information that you are looking for like you once were able to.

By the way...Welcome to NORIA!!!

What ever happend to Tooslick? He posted on the old Noria board and all of a sudden stopped posting on Bitog in 2006.

I simply mentioned an unknown " Butler Labs " in regards to stepping up the bar with use of particle counts that the lab offered and was removed from the place over the post . A week or so later of course Mark came aboard and did alot of good for many people .

Just an update from the "other site" We have some bickering going on again, but mori's back and posting again, whereas Terry called it quits..both as a site sponser and a poster.

Mola's back posting again, and has brought even more technical (read wonderful reading) to the table.

I don't know what to make of some of the newbies..kind of makes you wonder if they actually read what the heck they are typing!??

I saw that Mola is back posting again. Sorry to hear about Terry. Maybe he will come here and post.

Couldn't agree more with you Kanling. I've been reading on there for a few weeks now and I can see a trend.

I have to ask you guys about Mobil 1 products. I've seen a few times on BITOG that people say the have run UOA's and say it's nothing special and put a lot of conventional oils in front of it. Mobil has been making syn's for a long time now, I can't imagine they are not worth the $19 for 5 qt jugs!?!?

Funny thing is, I believe, that people who are into what lubes they use like to change oil and fluids and do it quit frequently. So we may change good lube to often where as people who don't care what goes in general don't change their lubes as often, so their the ones that really need that $10+ qt stuff. Just a thought I had.

Remmious...truer words have never been spoken, but unfortunately, as you keep reading on that board, you'll find that the ONLY thing that makes up most of their minds is how much oil I can get for the least amount possible.

Nothing like having your cake, eating it, AND asking for seconds as you hold out your plate IMHO...

An excellent oil at bargain prices and the ring belt area should stay clean till doomsday. Some decide over a couple ppm of iron or lead . Sillyness IMO .

It well might be that if many just went by the owners manual the engines would live very long lifes without analysis - doping oil and gasoline ect .

Wait , maybe the vast majority do just that and never have thought about oil sites on the WW Web . Not sure the majority keep cars all that long these days anyway .

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Originally posted by remmious:

I have to ask you guys about Mobil 1 products. I've seen a few times on BITOG that people say the have run UOA's and say it's nothing special and put a lot of conventional oils in front of it. Mobil has been making syn's for a long time now, I can't imagine they are not worth the $19 for 5 qt jugs!?!?

Motorbike, you couldn't be more right. I get caught up in all the hoopla and I dn't know why.

Regardine M1, absolutely will keep an engine clean. That HTO-06 Honda testing proved how well Mobil 1 does at preventing deposits. I've also seen some good TEOST independent testing done by SWRI posted by someone on BITOG who had access to that info.

I'm no different than any other consumer out there; there's a limit to what I will/can spend on items such as fluids and filters so it ultimately comes down to price. But I would like to get my best bang for my buck and I like knowing what I have in front of me. I hadn't seen any of the M1 VOA's but it was something I've seen slung around a few times. I like some of the reading but you definitly have to pick through the posts.

Thanks for the responses.....

I guess that makes me the wild one of the bunch then. I will spend an extreme amount on my fluids...but ONLY if I feel that the product quality and ability of the lubricant warrants it. That's why I use Maxima products, not because I proudly want to annouce that I spend $10 per liter for it, but because after doing my research, spending hours reading posts, specification sheets, and talking to them personally, I decided to give that oil a chance.

So far, I really like it...in fact, I ordered my second batch for my next round of OCI's.

I just made a quick visit to bitog just to see what's new. I haven't checked for months. I'm distressed to see that Wix appears to have changed the design on their oil filters... changing their previous excellent bypass valve and maybe cutting the amount of media and quality of the center tube.

I also noticed the Gee-Man is flexing his muscles again... "I'm not going to go actively looking for political content in everyone's signatures. I will give you a few days to remove it yourself. After that, if I see it, you will be banned. " Still quick to the guillotine, I see. And it probably also explains why some of the knowledgeable people I remember from the past who would have provided some insight into the Wix issue have not - they're gone.

Kanling,

At this rate, they will loose everyone who has anything to contribute at BITOG and it will be dead for sure.

Well I was just banned from BITOG. GMan took offense to my sense of humor. He has posted about no political statements so I (of course) changed my signature to read:
THIS SPACE FOR SALE
Place your political advertisement here
So the Nazi bans me. Oh well. That place sux anyway...turned into a ricer/kiddie forum.
I was SargeGTO there....

Well Sarge, I wondered how long it would take for you to be banned for your new signature. Lasted longer than I thought. That's a pretty petty thing to ban someone for, IMHO. I'm interested to see how wwilsons new Truckers Oil Forum goes. I think it's a good idea and I hope it does not turn in to one sided mud slinging forum. I wish him well.