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Yeah Helen PM'd me and said politics is a 4 letter word on BITOG. Gee....here it is a eight letter word. Who knew?!
Terry Dyson is right...that place has lost it's value....who cares Smile

Maybe here I can get a better understanding to my oil temp to viscosity requirements question....versus 06VTECH telling me about his "fabulous" Honda and his latest butt dyno run down to the head shop for more rolling papers Smile
By the way....if my oil temps never get over 160-180...running PP 10-30....am I activating the add packs?....could I run a "thicker" 5-20 or 0-20 and still get the wear protection?


Old School Gearhead learning new tricks.
 
Posts: 11 | Location: Hill Country of Texas | Registered: Sun October 09 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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It's getting worse than I thought that you've been banned Sarge.

I know that when I try to start up an actual conversation topic where information can be thrown back and forth, it seems to take off on a tangent also by the third reply, and everything comes down to Mobil 1 or PP.

It is getting petty and childish.
 
Posts: 144 | Location: Glenshaw, PA, USA | Registered: Mon March 01 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Yeah, when Gman said no political signatures, I removed my www.honestedu.org signature, even though I don't consider it political. A couple weeks ago PM'd him asking about it, whether I could put it back on, and never got a reply.
 
Posts: 351 | Location: Detroit, Michigan | Registered: Thu January 08 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Things do seem to be getting out of hand over there unfortunately. People need to lighten up. It's an oil/auto forum. I didn't realize all of this had taken place recently.
 
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Here is a web site that speaks the truth for ya Smile
http://sargedoesoil.com/default.aspx


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Posts: 11 | Location: Hill Country of Texas | Registered: Sun October 09 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Sarge,

Why don't you tell us how you really feel. Smile

Just one thought and one correction to what is on that site:

Bob, the original owner of BITOG is still alive in FL. The one known at 59Vettemen was the second owner and is the one that passed away last year. I am very sad he is gone, he was a great person.


No signature required. My hand shake is good enough.
 
Posts: 17 | Location: Wausau, WI | Registered: Sat May 20 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I heard he was a really good guy also.
I'll make a correction Smile


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Posts: 11 | Location: Hill Country of Texas | Registered: Sun October 09 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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59Vetterman was truly a nice person, after his demise, BITOG is not the same.
 
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I got beyond banned 2 years ago for mentioning [the names have been changed to protect the innocent] Arthur Herbert Fonzarelli

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Originally posted by SgtGeek:
Here is a web site that speaks the truth for ya Smile
http://sargedoesoil.com/default.aspx


I just want you to know the stuff on your site about Castrol is incorrect.

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So Helen signs a contract with Castrol and now they "approve and cruise" the website and have anything they dissaprove of removed.


I'm no Castrol fan, believe me. But they are NOT controlling content. Yes they are a paying sponsor. Even some of what Terry said is simply not true. They are not controlling or limiting other sponsors. Helen just doesn't want too many sponsors and wanted to slow down and think about sponsors.

As for banning - were you guys banned for oil content or testing the limits with R/S/P? Can I see examples? G-man WAS quite stern, because of direction from Helen. What I saw right after Tony's death was people thinking they could get away with more and they could....so some folks got used to it, suddenly when, yes, G-man reigned it in. Then people start complaining and testing him like silly children BUT in my humble opinion it's still looser than when Bob ran the show.
 
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The attitude at BITOG is anal to say the least. People get banned on the frivolities and moods of the mods, no sense or logic there.
 
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I got banned without any R/S/P. All I did was question why so many people were getting banned. Yet another example in history where those who question the tyrants get beheaded.
 
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I got banned for saying Hyundai quality is not up to the Japanese mark yet Big Grin

No warning, no intimidation, nothing, NADA, bunch of anals.
 
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Hmmmm, good thing we haven't taken oaths to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth. . . Roll Eyes

BITOG rules are clear, and available for all members to read (in fact, that's required). The owner is strict, and has good reasons for being so (many sponsors demand a clean forum). And in no case is the staff unwilling to consider a reasonable request for re-instatement or imposition of a lesser sanction.
 
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That might be OK if those rules were applied fairly. But they are applied so as to basically impose censorship on some and allow others in favor to say whatever they please. Total BS.

Got a legal term for that?
 
Posts: 5 | Location: The High Country | Registered: Sun December 23 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Thats the word, FAIR and unfortunately it doesn't exist at BITOG.
 
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