Yep I did look at that link, MGBV8. It is still from Singapore. I want to buy it from the U.S.A. if possible. I gave there headquarters in Chicago, IL a call and so far no one has gotten back to me if it can in fact be purchased on this side of the water. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

Well, to purchase it here requires a pallet of 30 cases of 20 liters per case purchase. So I guess to try it out I'll just have to try that website www.valuhub.com, and hope for the best.

I also have been reading other lubricant forums posts and am suprised by the negative response to the vegetable based lubricants (non castor oil based). Technology and the sheer fact that we will run out of petroleum eventually should push forward the further development of these lubricants to come full circle.

I may not have the tribology degree, but give them a chance. They seem to be working just fine for me.