Next lubrication question from left field. Does anybody have any experience with this product, either as just their concentrate to add to your desired brand of motor oil, or their full motor oil with this as part of the additive package?

I was looking for compatability issues since they say that it is an extreme pressure additive, and most oils, if not all from what I've read and learned, have no extreme pressure additive package in them to begin with.

From their web site it looks like it would be better to buy their oil with the additive already there. There web site presents a picture that is almost too good to be true. And their gas additive evidently has no cleaning agents....?

A long while back I saw two analysis's where mineral oil was doped with it and used in gas auto engines . There was not a trend involved that I saw and no evidence of anything but a lighter pocket book when all was said n done in those two usesages. Maybe it works for other user's though .

The Valvoline Synthetic additive does work though at 1 ounce per quart treat rates with many oils . Reduces Fe time after time and bumps TBN a bit but even with it there is no real replacement for buying and using well formulated oils to start with .

Motorbike, I've since found out that this stuff is like an alka-seltzer for your oil, not exactly a waste, but not exactly a "magic pill" type of product either. I guess it then would depend on how much money I feel like spending for my next oil change!!!

Yeah , your not going to beat using best oil possible for a given task based on some educated purchasing .

There's sleeper dino's that will run with some OTC synthetics in peformance while thumping them in the cost aspect .

There's also some sleeper synthetics out there as well that in my view don't get counted at other forums because there is no money in it ...

Maybe I 'll slug some of the stuff so that I can have an additive package that will protect me from the wear and tear of worrying about oil so much!!!

Dad2leia writes:

"I was looking for compatibility issues since they say that it is an extreme pressure additive, and most oils, if not all from what I've read and learned have no extreme pressure additive package in them to begin with."

Not true. ZDDP is a very common extreme pressure anti-wear additive/anti-oxidant found in most common automotive lubricating oils. If you prefer, you can go to BLOBITOG and read what the talkers that talk about oil all day long say about it, or go here:

http://www.lubrizol.com/LubeTheory/prop.asp

and read what the people who DESIGN AND MANUFACTURE OIL ADDITIVES FOR A LIVING all day long say about it. Your choice.

The Chevron site (Chevron Oronite division designs and manufactures oil additives too) has some good info also.

http://chevron.com/PRODUCTS/oronite/

Expect some fairly technical accurate articles rather than the, "I heard that. . . . , My friend said that. . . . , My dad said that . . . . , My mechanic told me that . . . . blah, blah, blah, type discussion so popular elsewhere on the net.


Chumley

Chumley, their product is Calcium based, would that be considered just another extreme pressure type additive, and would it really be beneficial, detrimental, or really a waste of effort in using?

Dad overbased calcium does not work well as a anti scuff addive (EP) and when if works it needs a active suflur. In motor oil only good for TBN I'm sending you some also.
bruce

Thanks once again bruce381!!!

Based on papers I have read it appears salicylate's beat out sulphonate detergents in anti-wear by a good margin .

The test oil using the salicyate even had less phosphorus that the sulphonate oil .

FWIW , I have never seen actual testing that showed sulphonates add any to anti-wear capabilities .

Salicylate and phenates bump TBN .

Is anyone using Oil Extreme, oil or additive, or their gasoline additive? It appears that a big part of their business is a mobil oil change service.

Has anyone VOA'd oilextreme?

Is there anything more to it than the TBN boost provided by the extra calcium carbonate?