I'm looking at a bottle of AMSOIL "Series 2000" synthetic 0W-30 that shows it meets the VW 502 and 505 specs. Full specs for that company's products at http://www.amsoil.com look under "Products" then motor oils. Let us know if we can help further.
Best regards,
quote:Originally posted by David: Anyone heard of this new specification?
The TDI-PD motor in the 2004 model year has changed the pumping system and if you use the standard 5-40 synthetic motor oil it will gel.
The proper number is 505-01 and from what we have confirmed only Castrol and Motoul out of France have the formulation.
If the bottle does not have this spec on it DO NOT USE IT.
Posts: 2 | Location: Largo, FL, USA | Registered: Wed February 04 2004
The newest Volkswagen oil specification is VW 505.01. This oil is specified for only one viscosity and that viscosity is 5W-40.
VW 505.01 is a completely different specification than VW 505.00.
Amsoil does NOT produce a VW 505.01 oil. Castrol and Motul are the only two North American retailers that are offering the 505.01 oil at this particular time. Look for more to be added as the market expands.
This oil is applicable to most of the entire 2004 Volkswagen product line to include both gasoline and diesel products.
The factory fill fluid for all VW's is one of two products manufactured by Fuch's lubricants. It is a 0W-30 fluid formulated to meet the initial fill requirement of either TL 521.73 (non-PD diesels) or TL 521.83 (all engines inclusive of PD diesel). This factory fill fluid is not commercially available and is not recommended to be in use for more than 8000 Km.
Castrol is not involved with factory fill production lubricants at this time.
As you can see they are factory fill in Jaguar, Land Rover, Volvo, Aston Martin, BMW, and Komatsu. "Castrol Syntec is the Factory Fill in Volkswagen and BMW vehicles" This is a quote from an email I got from Castrol Consumer North America on Jan. 14, 2004. If you do not beleive me go to this link and "ask the expert" yourself:
I am sorry robert but nowhere on the first link that you published did I see Castrol mention being a supplier to Volkswagen AG. Volkswagen is the manufacturer in question in this thread.
As for Castrol USA, there has not been a VW factoy in the USA since 1993 when the Westmoreland factory finally closed their door.
Johnny you are right about the first link that is why I supplied the second so you can ask Castrol yourself, because I once too was in your shoes where someone told me that Castrol Syntec was factory fill in VWs but I couldnot find iton the internet or on the VW websites I looked at so I emailed Castrol and got the reply that they did, so before you dought me just email them and ask it will take about 2 days if you email them though out the week but if you email them closer to friday you will not receive it until next week, so if you would just email them from the second link I posted earlier.
That did not say that Syntec is the factory fill, only that a Castrol product is used. You cannot equate the two based on this information.
And since US-spec Syntec is not a true synthetic (with PAO or ester base) but rather a Group III hydrowax, it is hardly an extended drain interval product. While the GIII's are fine lubricants, they still require VI improvers, pour point depressants, etc which can degrade over time. Plus, their volatility is not the best out there.
Amsoil NOW HAS an oil to meet this new VW spec; Product Code is: AFL-01 (12 Qt. Case ) or AFL-QT for single qts. I just got off the phone with a friend and this oil is now a stock item. The weight is: 5w-40.
'Rider Support' (C.)918-636-1281
Posts: 38 | Location: Claremore, OK, USA | Registered: Fri January 09 2004
Here in England we have had the VW specs for quite a while. The VW 501.01 and 505.00 are relatively easy to meet and are in fact covered by a mineral oil of A2:B2 or API SL/CF. The 505.01 spec is met by a 5w/40 semi-synthetic oil designed specifically for the VW. The latest VW spec is 506.01 which is a 5w/40 fully synthetic. BUT they are not the norm and are specifically formulated to meet this spec. Check out the Q8 Oils web site at q8oils.co.uk they are all listed there. Incidently, I am always surprised to hear that on your side of the water you anly get 3/4000 miles between oil changes. I accept that good oil is the cheapest form of maintenance but we are now on 10,000 change intervals. Diesels are on 6,000.
Posts: 3 | Location: England | Registered: Sun March 28 2004
Amsoil’s “European Car Formula” 5w-40 oil now carries the VW 505-01 specification. AFL-QT is the stock number for a quart but I find it cheaper to buy the case AFL-01. I get it online at http://www.lubedealer.com/tntsynthetics
VAG has now two new qualities, VW 504.00 and 507.00 which are fully backward compatible, except for the R5 and V10 TDI engines and one or two PD engines, which only may have a VW 506.01 0W-30. (For US it's a 505.01, strange enough...)
This message has been edited. Last edited by: .:[EM]:.,
.:[EM]:.
Posts: 150 | Location: The Netherlands | Registered: Tue May 25 2004
theheg: the Amsoil claims to meet VW 505.01, but is not approved by VW. Despite much talk on sites like BITOG, it does not seem to be known 1. whether Amsoil have requested VW approval 2. Ifthey have, whether the product is accepted for the VW list of over 70 products. Amsoil would have received confirmation in writing. 3 Submitted and have had the product rejected from the list.
Unless and until the Amsoil product is given VW approval, it can hardly claim a trademark belonging to VW. There can be no assumption of warranty cover from VW, in the event of failure.
"Currently, Castrol and Motul are the primary competing motor oil companies in North America for the VW 50.01 specification. However neither are formulated to address the low sulphur ash requirements of MB 229.31, MB 229.51 or BMW LL-04, nor are they formulated up to API SM/CF requirements."
This message has been edited. Last edited by: Rudy Hiebert,
