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Anybody hear about Group III 10 cSt ? What will be the major application for this base oil?
 
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Insulating fluid in transformers, maybe.
 
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motor oil
 
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Thank for the answer. But to what extend a group III 10 cSt can be used in motor oil (for monograde) or industrial lube ? Blender will be using lower price 500N from group I and group II base oils. Any typical application for replacement of PAO 10 cSt ?
 
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Your confusing me. I hope you are not thinking that by mixing Group I and Group II oils you get Group III oil, are you?
 
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what exactly do you want to know?
a 10cSt oil would work well for a PCMO aswell as a HDEO.

it is to thick for insultating oil and to high dollar for most "industrial" oils.
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Dear People

First of all, you should clear the temperature value for viscosity.

When you say 10 Cts, are you refering to 40 °C?, or are you refering to 100°C???

If you are talking about motor oil, it is very probable that the complete referece should be 10 Cts to 100°C, but if it is motor oil, you should indicate the viscosity in SAE Grade.

Maybe you would like to say SAE 10, or may be it is a monograde SAE 25W (equivalent to 10 Cts to 100 °C).

Please, see the table in

http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Backup/200005/read_oil_can_tab2.gif

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...it is to thick for insultating oil...

ASTM D 3487, Standard Specification for Mineral Insulating Oil pretty much govern in this industry field, and its tables list viscosity for both Type 1 and Type 2 oils at max. 12 cSt @ 40 degrees C. However, Group 3 oil might not be the best solution for transformers if its VI is more than 80, which I think it is. And also, the solvency might be deficient as well (too high Aniline Point).
 
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It is common to call out PAO and GPIII in vicosity @100C that is the standard vis temp for them as a base oil.

Example a GPIII base oil maybe 4,7,or 10 cST @100C that is how they are called out so a 10cSt oil @100C is perhaps a ISO VG grade 100 at 40C way to high in vis for most common "insultating' oils

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Group III 10 cST is more suitable for industrial applications like: compressor oil,turbine oil, vacuum oil.Group III has better oxdation stability than group I & II,therefore it able to get more lifetime.
For Motor oils you can use it only for 15w/40 grade or higher ,but you can use another less expensive base oils to get the same results.
 
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Thank you for all your answer. Base on the above reply from all of you. The conclusions is as follows :-
Usage of Group III 10 cSt (100C)
- Motor Oil 15W/40
- HDEO (higher grade)
- Insulating oil
- Tranformer Oil (not a good choice)
- Industrail oil (to expensive)

Any nichie product that can be product with Group III 10 cSt ?
 
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