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I need to know how to find the approximate heat production of a gear box, for an oil cooler application.

At 300Hp Input, an 8:1 gearbox will generate how many Btu/Hr?

Formulas? Charts? Mfr Data?

I'm sure it depends somewhat on the type of gear train, I would just like to find any source of data since we will be dealing with a variety gearboxes.

Any help will be appreciated.

Ken


Ken Hirst
Sr. Design Egr.
G P Reeves Inc.
 
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I Know for a fact that high speed gears might have heat generation in the 15 % area, witch means in your case 300 x 0,75 x 0,15 = 33 kW.
I remember these values from a job together with a MAAG (Svitserland) representative a few years back because this meant 3 MW heat right down the drain from the 20 MW Gear.

Best Lars
 
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I would think the type of gears would greatly effect the heat output. Viscosity of lubricating oil and the type used will also effect temperatures.


Michael Bialecki
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Thanks Lars and Michael,

I have a little more input.

There are about 30,000 of these systems in existence, with many different motor/gearbox combinations and sizes, usually around 100 to 200 Hp. The output shaft speed is usually around 65 to 140 RPM. The gear oil is usually an EP based AGMA #4. Some gearbox manf's state that normal operating temp would be 200 DegF Max with just air cooling. These end users must overload them, because they get much hotter, and this leads to premature failures.

My challenge is to design a universal oil cooler for all of them! I thought the gearbox mfgr's would have some charts or formulas on load or torque vs heat output in BTU's/Hr, So we would better know how much heat we need to get rid of. So far, I can't find any data like this. Has anyone seen any data on this?

Ken


Ken Hirst
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G P Reeves Inc.
 
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try to find Bob Erichello (spelling) maybe retired now his company was called geartech I think he would know this.

http://www.powerengineering.com/cv_errichello.html

bruce
 
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