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Hi all!

I have a query and will appreciate any input / advise, from sites / operations, (where this technology have been successfully implemented), regarding the following.

The site is implementing a system incorporating a plant where all the used oil - referred to as product - is reclaimed (80% crankcase, 15% gearbox and the rest hydraulic - ratio). Product is then processed through a phosphate reduction process at approximately 120 degrees C (200 litre tank volume with a 5 litre / minute through flow), cooled to 75 degrees C and chemically treated. The treated product is cooled and pumped to a vertical settlement tank (14000 litre volume with a replenishing rate of 15000 litre per week) to allow the settling of carry-over fractions of the aqueous solution. Product is then centrifuged and stored in a bulk product tank from where it is blended into the diesel dispensing (referred to as the fuel-product mixture) system at a 3 - 4% (volume / volume%) ratio. The system is not operational at present and test runs & analysis is conducted.

Analysis of the product - before blending into the diesel is as follow:
Viscosity: 53 cSt
Ca: 202 ppm
P: 292 ppm
S: 8639 ppm
Zn: 57 ppm
Fe: 15 ppm
Pb: 11 ppm
Si: 29 ppm
Na: 100 ppm

My questions are as follow;

- What cleanliness will be required when blending the reclaimed oil into the fuel (bearing the blend dilution factor in mind), I assume the same as required for the fuel. IP440, the preferred method for fuel cleanliness, is gravimetric (mass / mass%) but does not quantify the particle size, what do you suggest because the sample might pass the IP440 but still have excessively large particles in the composition.
- Will the product with a high EP additive (sulphur phosphorous) content in low sulphur (0.05%) diesel fuel have a deterimental effect on the life of the fuel system (injectors / pumps etc) considering the dilution factor?
- Ash content of the product and fuel - product mixture respectively, do you think the ash content will be influenced significantly?
The site is operating a fleet which include KOMATSU SA12V140, CAT3412, 3306, 3304, CUMMINS K1800, QST30, KTA38, VTA1710 and several other high horsepower new generation engines.

Any opinions will be appreciated and my email included.

Regards.

sminnaar@mhs4.tns.co.za
 
Posts: 21 | Location: Moranbah, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Mon October 25 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by Stefan Minnaar:
Hi all!

I have a query and will appreciate any input / advise, from sites / operations, (where this technology have been successfully implemented), regarding the following.

The site is implementing a system incorporating a plant where all the used oil - referred to as product - is reclaimed (80% crankcase, 15% gearbox and the rest hydraulic - ratio). Product is then processed through a phosphate reduction process at approximately 120 degrees C (200 litre tank volume with a 5 litre / minute through flow), cooled to 75 degrees C and chemically treated. The treated product is cooled and pumped to a vertical settlement tank (14000 litre volume with a replenishing rate of 15000 litre per week) to allow the settling of carry-over fractions of the aqueous solution. Product is then centrifuged and stored in a bulk product tank from where it is blended into the diesel dispensing (referred to as the fuel-product mixture) system at a 3 - 4% (volume / volume%) ratio. The system is not operational at present and test runs & analysis is conducted.

Analysis of the product - before blending into the diesel is as follow:
Viscosity: 53 cSt
Ca: 202 ppm
P: 292 ppm
S: 8639 ppm
Zn: 57 ppm
Fe: 15 ppm
Pb: 11 ppm
Si: 29 ppm
Na: 100 ppm

My questions are as follow;

- What cleanliness will be required when blending the reclaimed oil into the fuel (bearing the blend dilution factor in mind), I assume the same as required for the fuel. IP440, the preferred method for fuel cleanliness, is gravimetric (mass / mass%) but does not quantify the particle size, what do you suggest because the sample might pass the IP440 but still have excessively large particles in the composition.
- Will the product with a high EP additive (sulphur phosphorous) content in low sulphur (0.05%) diesel fuel have a deterimental effect on the life of the fuel system (injectors / pumps etc) considering the dilution factor?
- Ash content of the product and fuel - product mixture respectively, do you think the ash content will be influenced significantly?
The site is operating a fleet which include KOMATSU SA12V140, CAT3412, 3306, 3304, CUMMINS K1800, QST30, KTA38, VTA1710 and several other high horsepower new generation engines.

Any opinions will be appreciated and my email included.

Regards.

sminnaar@mhs4.tns.co.za


Stefan
I am interested on your "used oil" phosphate reduction process and its chemical treatment What are they?
 
Posts: 5 | Location: México | Registered: Sun June 12 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Good day,

I have to apologise but I am no longer, since Dec 2004, involved with the site where the project was being undertaken. I will however contact the relevant people and get the information to give you as detailed reply as possible.

My involvement was not with the phosphate reduction process in particular but merely the effect it would have on engines as metioned in the post, hence the final product.

My login profile changed as I have relocated to Australia for four years and since I have not participated in the forum had to re-register ... wait for it, because I forgot my password and the email address to which the details are being mailed is obsolete.

Have a great day.

Stefan
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Tom Price, Western Australia, Australia | Registered: Sat July 23 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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