Nice....
But, I wonder if Dexos will become the new DexCool.(All those lawsuits.......)
Read our primer articles on High Mileage Oil, Synthetic Oil and Kinematic Viscosity
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
Trajen/nuke/dave/etc.etc...........Get lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're Busted as a liar for the whole world to see!!!
THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL FORUM.......YOU ARE NOT!!!!!
I post only the facts and the truth.....that's how I caught you and your lies......with the facts!!!! The facts never lie........only you do!!!! Now we have proof of who you are,and that you are a liar!!!
By the way.........synthetic oil is better!!! Dino/mineral causes sludge...even in mower engines...... The facts say so!
Just to finish the weirdness from you once and for all I have requested the MODERATOR post on this thread who the trolls are that have multiple identities...It will be nice when the RESIDENT TROLLS: Inhaliburton, Kirk, and good ol' Annie, are exposed once and for all, for what they are known to be just; INTERNET TROLLS
Trajen/nuke/dave/etc.etc...........Get lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're Busted as a liar for the whole world to see!!!
THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL FORUM.......YOU ARE NOT!!!!!
I post only the facts and the truth.....that's how I caught you and your lies......with the facts!!!! The facts never lie........only you do!!!! Now we have proof of who you are,and that you are a liar!!!
By the way.........synthetic oil is better!!! Dino/mineral causes sludge...even in mower engines...... The facts say so!
Just to finish the weirdness from you once and for all I have requested the MODERATOR post on this thread who the trolls are that have multiple identities...It will be nice when the RESIDENT TROLLS: Inhaliburton, Kirk, and good ol' Annie, are exposed once and for all, for what they are known to be just; INTERNET TROLLS
Miro/Inhaliburton/Kirk,
You are what in your late fifties, early sixties?
I'm sure your parents would be proud to know that their 'grown son' is nothing but an 'internet troll'.
Oh thats right you took care of that parent thing....problem solved huh?
You are what in your late fifties, early sixties?
I'm sure your parents would be proud to know that their 'grown son' is nothing but an 'internet troll'.
Oh thats right you took care of that parent thing....problem solved huh?
quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
Oh thats right you took care of that parent thing....problem solved huh?
Ya know, I hate the taste of the bile I get every time I have to caution the use of this.
I don't like defending people who don't deserve it.
I know you're better than that. Don't prove me wrong.
quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
Miro/Inhaliburton/Kirk,
You are what in your late fifties, early sixties?
I'm sure your parents would be proud to know that their 'grown son' is nothing but an 'internet troll'.
Oh thats right you took care of that parent thing....problem solved huh?
For your own good, I hope you didn't press the "Report This Post" button.
It was already pressed by someone else, and the moderator reponded...You don't read so good do you...You have accused 3 people here of being one poster...We need to find out who you are as well...I have nothing to hide, as your plainly wrong as usual.
If I do choose to report your posts...Then quit posting your usual crud...You can always go to the other site...oh thats right you were banned their as well, for the same behaviour...Cry me a river. It's real easy Miro you see, YOUR THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM...And your past history here, and on other sites spells out that 'FACT'.
It would be great to have a well thought out civil discussion. I don't seem to have an issue with anyone else...I believe all others are probably about the same. With you though we have a 5 year history of the same trollish behaviour under different guises as well. Perhaps Miro, you need a break from these sites, as you seem to be cracking from the strain...Or perhaps medication, to control the mental spasms.
If I do choose to report your posts...Then quit posting your usual crud...You can always go to the other site...oh thats right you were banned their as well, for the same behaviour...Cry me a river. It's real easy Miro you see, YOUR THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM...And your past history here, and on other sites spells out that 'FACT'.
It would be great to have a well thought out civil discussion. I don't seem to have an issue with anyone else...I believe all others are probably about the same. With you though we have a 5 year history of the same trollish behaviour under different guises as well. Perhaps Miro, you need a break from these sites, as you seem to be cracking from the strain...Or perhaps medication, to control the mental spasms.
You know Miro some people could construe the "for your own good" as a threat to my well being.. If that happens Miro, well I will be reporting this post to the mods....Just so their is no mis-understanding in the future.
If you think you are installing the correct oil/grade/viscosity in your car..........think again.
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Even if you select what you think is the OEM
required viscosity, you could be wrong. GM 5W-30 viscosity approval is different than SAE 5W-30 viscosity approval. The GM approval requires better low temperature pumping viscosity than SAE. And, a BMW approved 5W-30 is required to be thicker at high temperature than the SAE 10W-40 requirement. If you don’t understand the OEM proprietary and ACEA oil service rating systems, you won’t know the true viscosity of most oil products.
The whole link
http://diagnosticnews.com/tech...-lubrication-basics/
Notice the mention of 5w-30 being not as thick,but even thicker than 10w-40 for BMW. So much for all those against thick oil.
Looks like a premium super synthetic of 5w-50 is just about perfect if you go by the European BMW spec.
All those skeptics making fun of 'thick oil' (5w-50 / 100% synthetic oil) should re-think that belief.
Kirk
Quote
Even if you select what you think is the OEM
required viscosity, you could be wrong. GM 5W-30 viscosity approval is different than SAE 5W-30 viscosity approval. The GM approval requires better low temperature pumping viscosity than SAE. And, a BMW approved 5W-30 is required to be thicker at high temperature than the SAE 10W-40 requirement. If you don’t understand the OEM proprietary and ACEA oil service rating systems, you won’t know the true viscosity of most oil products.
The whole link
http://diagnosticnews.com/tech...-lubrication-basics/
Notice the mention of 5w-30 being not as thick,but even thicker than 10w-40 for BMW. So much for all those against thick oil.
Looks like a premium super synthetic of 5w-50 is just about perfect if you go by the European BMW spec.
All those skeptics making fun of 'thick oil' (5w-50 / 100% synthetic oil) should re-think that belief.
Kirk
quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
You know Miro some people could construe the "for your own good" as a threat to my well being.. If that happens Miro, well I will be reporting this post to the mods....Just so their is no mis-understanding in the future.
Your're as crazy as a bag of hammers. What grade are you in?
quote:Originally posted by inHaliburton:quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
You know Miro some people could construe the "for your own good" as a threat to my well being.. If that happens Miro, well I will be reporting this post to the mods....Just so their is no mis-understanding in the future.
Your're as crazy as a bag of hammers. What grade are you in?
Not what grade.........what CRAZY WARD!!!!
quote:Like in a certain Murano owned by some guy named budman..
Trajan....There you go again bringing up synlube. You must love the stuff. I spoke to budman and he told me that the Murano had many,many issues,so he traded it in.
He purchased a brand new saturn and installed synlube in that car too,and installed it in his other car as well. Now why would he do that? Because he knows it's very good oil,like I do.
<<<This is budman posting about the saturn
This sample came from MY REAL car (Saturn) that had 20,xxx miles on it at time of sample. In another thread somewhere on this forum I posted pictures of me installing synlube back in early 2008 when I bought the car and it had 1149 miles on it (i have pic of odometer at the time as well on my PC). It has gone through two filter changes since then as well as topping up with their ADD oil when needed. 19,011 miles on this sample and more everyday since it is still in my car.>>>>
No sludge here as well also from budman.............doesn't get any better than this..My cars also look just like the photos in the link below.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...1842031&#Post1842031
Budman's remarks:
Engine runs great, uses about 1/8 qt of oil per year (short trips probably most of it) and from what I can see, looks clean inside the fill hole.
I have tried to remain as neutral as possible and not take sides. I am not here to try to convince anyone to use or not use it but rather give an objective report as best I can. The Murano, I felt, had nothing to do with my choice of oil. It was cursed with issues to the point even with dino in it, was causing dealer visits. That is why I was willing to try Synlube again for my two new cars.
NO sludge in any of my cars now pushing 10 years with said lube you love to keep bringing up,over,and over again.
Kirk
quote:I stopped when they annoyed me.
quote:They will post on various boards and whine about how their engine runs like crap, and people like you will blame the oil. Not the people who use the wrong oil.
Any clearer now?
No,Trajan... you are never clear, quite frankly.
If the old/other standards were all so good trajan,all those years like so many have claimed all that time with each and every standard.......then why all the newer better standards addressing all the issues with the older standards?
Some of you posters will use cheap oil,change it every 1 or 2,000 miles. Discuss the use of engine flushes on other threads/sites to clean up the engine.......and then....
Flush out those engines with cleaners/solvents such as,MMO,A-RX,RIS.,KEROSENE,change oil,continue with chemical cleaners and flushes over and over, and then.......take a picture of a very clean valve train and say.........."cheap oil works for me"..... failing to mention all the steps/measures/cleaners taken to keep the engine clean giving a false impression/lie that dino/mineral oil did all the work.......what a joke!!!! That stuff is way old school 30 years ago and beyond!
Why not just use group IV synthetic?......it's cheaper and easier in the long,better for the engine,and way better for the environment.
It must be frustrating. No auto maker uses unrated, unproven oil in their vehicles.
Must be frustrating that most of them use dino oil for their low/mid range vehicles.
Must be frustrating that, for example, Porsche factory fills with Mobil 1. BMW with Castrol, or Ferarri uses Shell.
Must be galling that despite your claims, dino or Grp III oils are being used by thousands upon thousands of vehicles with no problems.
Must be frustrating that most of them use dino oil for their low/mid range vehicles.
Must be frustrating that, for example, Porsche factory fills with Mobil 1. BMW with Castrol, or Ferarri uses Shell.
Must be galling that despite your claims, dino or Grp III oils are being used by thousands upon thousands of vehicles with no problems.
I'm thinking it's time for more 'links' that will show the 'facts' about the horrors of using group III oils.
Of course the links will not show anything as usual. Funny how even though evreything it posts fails to backup it's claims...It just can't admit it's wrong.
Some people have that as a personal failure. Kinda funny and sad at the same time.
Of course the links will not show anything as usual. Funny how even though evreything it posts fails to backup it's claims...It just can't admit it's wrong.
Some people have that as a personal failure. Kinda funny and sad at the same time.
Just for the record........
I never spoke of anything horrific about group III oil,other then a few cases perhaps.....in fact....dexos will be group III. Dexos Looks to be a very good Lubricant reaching for a much higher standard.
The horror stories I spoke of were mostly with bulk oil......almost always group II.
Just the facts
Kirk
I never spoke of anything horrific about group III oil,other then a few cases perhaps.....in fact....dexos will be group III. Dexos Looks to be a very good Lubricant reaching for a much higher standard.
The horror stories I spoke of were mostly with bulk oil......almost always group II.
Just the facts
Kirk
Group II bulk oil used by many dealers and lube chains...Those are oils I just don't use in my vehicles...Though admittedly many do...vehicle owners enticed in by the $10-15 oil change, who after having it changed forget about ever checking it for a year.
The biggest cause of premature engine wear is owner neglect. For the most part even the cheaper oils will work with reasonable OCI. The owner needs to keep up on all facets of maintenance. A cheap little PCV causes how many problems? Leaking gaskets ignored, and the owner opting to just periodically fill the radiator.
Oil changes are just one facet of vehicle care...Important yes, but to often other facets are ignored, and the end result is sludge, with the uninformed naturally blaming the oil.
In our disposeable go go society, people either don't care about vehicle maintenance, or plead ignorant, and pay someone to do the job. A new car is about the second most expensive item most of us will purchase. I don't like to give up my hard earned cash, evry 5-7 years for a new car, so I spend the time to know the vehicle, and take care of it properly in all aspects.
The biggest cause of premature engine wear is owner neglect. For the most part even the cheaper oils will work with reasonable OCI. The owner needs to keep up on all facets of maintenance. A cheap little PCV causes how many problems? Leaking gaskets ignored, and the owner opting to just periodically fill the radiator.
Oil changes are just one facet of vehicle care...Important yes, but to often other facets are ignored, and the end result is sludge, with the uninformed naturally blaming the oil.
In our disposeable go go society, people either don't care about vehicle maintenance, or plead ignorant, and pay someone to do the job. A new car is about the second most expensive item most of us will purchase. I don't like to give up my hard earned cash, evry 5-7 years for a new car, so I spend the time to know the vehicle, and take care of it properly in all aspects.
75 Vette.... Nice toy.
I'm about 100 yds from an expressway. Otherwise, I can go miles and miles before I even see a traffic light.
So my oil gets nice and warm. No sludge worries using my Grp III oil.
111K, and it still rips through the gears like a throughbread. Really fun when you hit the sport button.
Yeah, right. A clunker. Sure Miro. Would be if I used unrated poo like synlube.
I'm about 100 yds from an expressway. Otherwise, I can go miles and miles before I even see a traffic light.
So my oil gets nice and warm. No sludge worries using my Grp III oil.
111K, and it still rips through the gears like a throughbread. Really fun when you hit the sport button.
Yeah, right. A clunker. Sure Miro. Would be if I used unrated poo like synlube.
Refresh my memory you drive a Z4? If so that is a beast of modern machinery with beautiful styling to match.
The motors produced by BMW can lay down some serious horsepower, with handling to match. Sporty but also refined and surefooted.
To pollute the engine with swill like Synlube...Well that would be a syn.
The motors produced by BMW can lay down some serious horsepower, with handling to match. Sporty but also refined and surefooted.
To pollute the engine with swill like Synlube...Well that would be a syn.
Since the dexos spec. will be for GM vehicles and primarily a Group III oil, they are going to have a hard time denying warranty claims for oil-related failures. As has been stated before, most people will buy a new GM, then when the OLM kicks in, they will go to iffy lube/greasy monkey, a dealer (if they can find one), or an independent. Most places will put in bulk oil.
Here in Central Fl, GM dealerships are scarce. I would have to drive to Daytona Beach (30 minutes) or to Orlando (about an hour). At least our local Lincoln Mercury dealer will work on other makes. Glad I have Nissans. There is a dealer about 5 minutes away from the office.
I think the purpose of extending OCI's make eco-sense, etc. I am running a grp III oil, but am conservative and change every 5K. I like crawling under my car and truck. I can see how everything is holding up. I check the suspension, rotate the tires, check for leaks. I check the oil level at least once a week.
Lovebug season is here, so I will probably be opening the hood more often now. Gotta hose out the bugs from the radiator and other cooler fins.
Dave
Here in Central Fl, GM dealerships are scarce. I would have to drive to Daytona Beach (30 minutes) or to Orlando (about an hour). At least our local Lincoln Mercury dealer will work on other makes. Glad I have Nissans. There is a dealer about 5 minutes away from the office.
I think the purpose of extending OCI's make eco-sense, etc. I am running a grp III oil, but am conservative and change every 5K. I like crawling under my car and truck. I can see how everything is holding up. I check the suspension, rotate the tires, check for leaks. I check the oil level at least once a week.
Lovebug season is here, so I will probably be opening the hood more often now. Gotta hose out the bugs from the radiator and other cooler fins.
Dave
quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
Refresh my memory you drive a Z4? If so that is a beast of modern machinery with beautiful styling to match.
The motors produced by BMW can lay down some serious horsepower, with handling to match. Sporty but also refined and surefooted.
To pollute the engine with swill like Synlube...Well that would be a syn.
A 2004 Z4 3.0L with 225hp. (The last year for that rating IIRC. When the 3.0si came out, it dropped to 215.)
The gearing is nice. At 2K rpm, multiply your gear by 10 and that's your mph.