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Captain Kirk, can you tell us why you are using Synlube in your engine versus using Amsoil Motor Oil.

Can you tell us how long you have had Synlube in your engine.

How long do you plan on keeping this car that has Synlube in it now.

Do you notice anything different with your engine with Synlube in it versus other oil's.

I am just asking you questions and I have no need to get into the squabble you are having with AD, Nucleardawg, and Trajan.
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Originally posted by Big Bear:
Captain Kirk, can you tell us why you are using Synlube in your engine versus using Amsoil Motor Oil.

Can you tell us how long you have had Synlube in your engine.

How long do you plan on keeping this car that has Synlube in it now.

Do you notice anything different with your engine with Synlube in it versus other oil's.

I am just asking you questions and I have no need to get into the squabble you are having with AD, Nucleardawg, and Trajan.




Here is the reason why I hate going to dealers/garages to have work done, and actually took one to court,and won. This guy has a much bigger case than I did.

Only my hands work on my car,well...99% of the time.

http://webcache.googleusercont...=us&client=firefox-a



Big Bear.

Regarding the synlube information.

There are several, now closed threads, you could take a look at that go back five years.

I started posting around march of this year.

Yes,there is some weird info(BBB,license issue,etc)that some of our,"detectives",have found which I have no clue,nor care what they amount to. I guess doing business,leaves one battled scarred a little at times...who knows!

One of our, "detectives", even entertained himself all day one Sunday,with a 'smear campaign' on ripoff report. However,I don't care about that.

Here is the now five year old link....

https://forums.noria.com/eve/fo...16604995/m/626103953


This is just one of the links.

I must admit.............that topic is like "beating a dead horse".

If you have doubts.........change it once,yearly,then send back(14-bucks),and get 100% for new,shipped free. What else can I say!! I love the stuff.



What do you drive and so forth. How many miles,history,etc.



Kirk
Trajan quoted:

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Start by remembering this. I have a bimmer. Not a beamer.




Trajan..........it took you five 1/2 hours to come up with that. You are certainly not the "sharpest tool in the shed",that's for sure.......my boy(your line)....

Come up with something a little more on topic .......I am done as a "man"....playing a boys game......which you seem to be "into".


If you're not "up to the task"..........then go post on a "boys" forum. That's where you belong!!
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tim vipond........are you a rep or salesperson for amsoil?? you talk of home delivery???
I am an independent dealer of AMSOIL products. I am not an AMSOIL employee. I can sell any other product I wish to.

AMSOIL can be ordered and delivered by UPS to your home. Or you can buy it at stores. Or you can pick it up at a dozen warehouses in the US.

Wow, Tim only made 15 posts and then he was BANNED.
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Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
Originally posted by Trajan.....

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Well, that's actually true. I don't have a beamer. Or a beemer. Don't know what the first is. The second is a BMW motor cycle. What I own is called a bimmer.



Now I know you don't have a............"Beamer"..........


Then what is the point of asking me what kind of oil I use in something I don't have, besides your fondness of trolling?
poor trajan, he insists that he rides a bimmer bike which is actually the correct word for the automobile. and beamer/beemer is the correct slang for the bmw bike.


Bimmer vs Beemer
Enthusiasts vs others
Definitions:
Bimmer - proper accepted slang for BMW cars. Most people don't know this.
Beamer/Beemer - proper accepted slang for BMW motorcycles. You will hear this term used incorrectly by many people.
once again trajan you are proved wrong.

btw did i mention i used to have a 1964 panhead. and that would be HARLEY OR HARLEY DAVIDSON!!

THANKS FOR PLAYING TRAJAN

here is the link for my proof

http://www.bmwccbc.org/misc/te...d-trivia/bimmer.html
Interesting link, wickedwiggy. Crystal clear, unlike Trajans usual misleading nonsense. He enjoys portraying himself the expert on any subject being discussed. He claims to be the owner of some kind of BMW. Makes, you wonder, eh? Wink

You may have noticed that Trajan hasn't responded to you your link which shows he hasn't a clue of what he spews. Not because he's busy. He can peck away on his iphone anywhere. It's his normal modus operandi to not respond when he's shown to be wrong. Or, he responds with a question or statement that is irrelevant to to the subject at hand.

Let's see if he's man enough to admit his mistake.
I'm expecting a flurry of insults, too. That's normal. He's probably texting away like crazy.

Yes, Trajan has a serious problem with independent women who are more intelligent than he, and who confront him. Annie_Oakley in particular is a good example. Him being a woman hater probably has plenty to do with his upbringing.

He's really going to be upset because you, being an intelligent woman, made him look like a fool, him supposedly being a BMW expert and all...

Do you think he has a BMW?

I don't.
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Just a little clarification. Amsoil claims that "He (Al Amatuzio ) was the inventor of synthetic oils and lubricants for ground use."

SynLube Clarification

AMSOIL = "First in Synthetics" - The company did not exist before 1972

MOBIL = "First to Market Synthetic Oil" - Mobil 1 was introduced in 1974

Being "First" in anything, unless it is a sanctioned racing event, has no relation to Quality, Value or Performance of ANY product in the market place.

And quite often even in racing events being "First" is more a matter of luck than of ultimate superiority of performance.

Historical Facts
1877
C. Friedler and J.M. Crafts synthesize the first "synthetic" hydrocarbons.

1913
Friedrich Bergius in Germany develops Hydrogenation process for production of synthetic oil from coal dust

1921
Standard Oil in USA produces one barrel of synthetic oil from one ton of shale rock

1921
Friedrich Bergius in Germany develops commercial process for hydrogenation of coal to synthetic oil

1925
In Germany Franz Fisher and Hans Tropsch develop Synthetic Oil industrial production process

1926
I.G. Farben acquired the patent rights to the Bergius hydrogenation process for production of synthetic oil from coal

1927
I.G. Farben's Leuna works start synthetic oil production

1929
Standard Oil of Indiana makes the first attempt at commercial development of synthetic hydrocarbons. Many gallons of synthetic oil were made by polymerization of different olefins.

1930-34
Union Carbide and Carbon Corp develop and investigate the applications of water soluble Polyalkylene Glycol (PAG)

1931
Nobel Prize for Chemistry:
Friedrich Bergius & Carl Bosch - Invention and development of chemical high pressure methods (used for synthetic oil production)

1932
I.G. Farben investment into synthetic fuels production from coal

1936
Adolf Hitler in Germany starts Major synthetic fuels and oil program

1937
First Polyalphaolefins were synthesized

1939
Fischer-Tropsh process that used carbon monoxide and hydrogen to make synthetic oils and fuels was commercialized in Germany

1942-45
PAG synthetic oils used in fleets and commercial vehicles

1944-1954
10% of German supply of lubricating oil is "synthetic", made by using three different processes

1944
US Army aircraft operating in Alaska and Canada use PAG engine oils

1944-45
The idea of using colloidal solids in synthetic fluids for lubrication of the first jet engines is tested and researched in Germany

1946
National Carbide Company, Inc. markets the "First" commercial PAG engine oils Prestone Motor Oil

1946
New York Power & Light Corp uses PAG engine oils in variety of their commercial vehicles.

1942-1955
Diester oils are used in turbine engines because Petroleum oil simply was inadequate to meet the demands of these engines.

1962
Texaco produces Synthetic Aircraft Turbine Oil

1962-66
U.S. Army experiences significant problems in operating vehicles and equipment in Alaska with MIL-L-10295 Lubricating Oil.

1965
Mobil introduces fully synthetic grease

1966
First Syn! Synthetic Super Lubricants produced in Canada

1966
Motul introduces first semi-synthetic motor oil in France

1968
U.S. Army develops MIL-L-46167 specification, which can be satisfied only with PAO synthetic oil

1969
SynLube Company is formed in Vancouver, B.C. Canada – it’s specialty the first "syn-sol".

1970’s
Arab Oil embargo prompts interest in "synthetic" oils

1971
Motul in France introduces first all-synthetic oil in Europe

1972
AMSOIL is formed and markets re-labeled MIL specification oils to motoring public through multi-level "pyramid" type organization.

1974
Mobil test markets Mobil 1 synthetic SAE 5W-20 "synthesized engine lubricant"

1976
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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
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Originally posted by Big Bear:

Just a little clarification. Amsoil claims that "He (Al Amatuzio ) was the inventor of synthetic oils and lubricants for ground use."

Where did AMSOIL claim that Al Amatuzio was the inventor of synthetic oils and lubricants for ground use?


You might want to talk with Synlube, its from there site.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsoil

Founder, President and CEO of AMSOIL, Inc., Albert J. Amatuzio, was introduced to synthetic lubricants used in the jets he flew as a fighter pilot for the US Air Force. He later founded his company, AMMOIL which would later be changed to AMZOIL, Inc., which would later be changed to AMSOIL, Inc., due to trademark concerns brought forth by Pennzoil. Mr. Amatuzio went on to formulate a synthetic motor oil for use in automobiles in a joint effort with the Hatco Corporation[1]. AMZOIL 10W-40 grade 100 percent synthetic motor oil became available to the general public in 1972 as the first synthetic motor oil in the United States to meet American Petroleum Institute (API) requirements. Today AMSOIL, Inc., markets the XL line of API certified synthetic motor oil [2] as well as many other oil formulations which meet or exceed current API requirements.

AMZOIL is Now Called AMSOIL
AMZOIL's business name was changed to AMSOIL many years ago as a result of Pennzoil paranoia. As you can see from the oil can at the right. AMSOIL was indeed called AMZOIL in the early days of the company - back in the 70's. However, Pennzoil took exception to the "zoil" in the name, and AMZOIL finally was forced to change the name to AMSOIL, even though the name had not been taken from the Pennzoil name at all.

The name AMZOIL was actually just a more catchy way of writing "Ammos Oil". The president of the company, Al Amatuzio, had a nickname when he was a pilot. His nickname was Ammo. So, when he began developing the AMSOIL product, it was originally not called AMSOIL, but rather was "Ammos Oil".

Since this isn't exactly a real professional name to put on a bottle of oil, it was recommended that he change the name to AMZOIL. Of course, as it turned out, that was bad advice, and Pennzoil ended up forcing Al to change the company name from AMZOIL to AMSOIL.

Thus, if you're looking for the AMSOIL product these days, be sure to spell it with an "S", rather than a "Z". AMZOIL is now (and has been for a long time) AMSOIL.

Tim, I found this last thing about Pennzoil on one of the Amsoil Sites, and as far as Synlube's claims you can ask Kirk when he comes on later.
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Originally posted by Big Bear:
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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
quote:
Originally posted by Big Bear:

Just a little clarification. Amsoil claims that "He (Al Amatuzio ) was the inventor of synthetic oils and lubricants for ground use."

Where did AMSOIL claim that Al Amatuzio was the inventor of synthetic oils and lubricants for ground use?


You might want to talk with Synlube, its from there site.
No it isn't.

Also "Tim, I found this last thing about Pennzoil on one of the Amsoil Sites," There is only one AMSOIL, Inc. website, and that is www.amsoil.com. FYI, the site you quoted from is not even an Authorized AMSOIL Dealer website. It is just a website created by an independent AMSOIL Dealer that has not been authorized by AMSOIL. Do not confuse these websites with official AMSOIL information.
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Originally posted by Big Bear:
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FYI, the site you quoted from is not even an Authorized AMSOIL Dealer website. It is just a website created by an independent AMSOIL Dealer that has not been authorized by AMSOIL. Do not confuse these websites with official AMSOIL information.


Tim, I guess we can say the same thing about your WEBSITE.
No, because mine is Authorized by AMSOIL.
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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
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Originally posted by Big Bear:
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FYI, the site you quoted from is not even an Authorized AMSOIL Dealer website. It is just a website created by an independent AMSOIL Dealer that has not been authorized by AMSOIL. Do not confuse these websites with official AMSOIL information.


Tim, I guess we can say the same thing about your WEBSITE.
No, because mine is Authorized by AMSOIL.


Can you prove that the other Amsoil Dealer does not have an approved website authorized by Amsoil.

Are Gary Allan and Pablo's website authorized by Amsoil.

Are you telling us we should stay away from unauthorized Amsoil sites, how do we tell the difference.
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Originally posted by Big Bear:
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
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Originally posted by Big Bear:
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FYI, the site you quoted from is not even an Authorized AMSOIL Dealer website. It is just a website created by an independent AMSOIL Dealer that has not been authorized by AMSOIL. Do not confuse these websites with official AMSOIL information.


Tim, I guess we can say the same thing about your WEBSITE.
No, because mine is Authorized by AMSOIL.


Can you prove that the other Amsoil Dealer does not have an approved website authorized by Amsoil.
Yes. It does not say Authorized AMSOIL Dealer Website.

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Originally posted by Big Bear: Are Gary Allan and Pablo's website authorized by Amsoil.
Yes they are.

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Originally posted by Big Bear: Are you telling us we should stay away from unauthorized Amsoil sites, how do we tell the difference.
I wouldn't stay away from them. Just be aware that they have not been Authorized by AMSOIL.. Just look for the Authorized AMSOIL Dealer Website emblem as you see it on my www.lubedealer.com/timvipond website.
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Originally posted by Big Bear:
Tim, if Gary Allan did not have an authorized website I doubt Pablo would say anything.

Why would Amsoil approve one website and not approve the other website.

Can you explain this whole authorized and unauthorized stuff to us.
Let's say a website has nudity, profanity, etc. AMSOIL would not Authorize it. Or maybe a website was never sent to AMSOIL to Authorize it.
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Originally posted by Big Bear:
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Let's say a website has nudity, profanity, etc. AMSOIL would not Authorize it.


Tim, I have seen quite a few Indepndent Amsoil Dealer Websites and I can say they all look pretty much the same, I think you can give us a better ANSWER.
I'll try. Let's say AMSOIL has done testing that shows a 3% improvement in performance using AMSOIL. An Independent AMSOIL dealer website might say 50% improvement in performance without any factual data to support it. AMSOIL would not authorize it. You could also have 2 identical websites where one dealer sent it to AMSOIL for Authorization and the other dealer didn't send it in. One would get Authorized, the other would not.
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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
KIRK/MIRO...If you wish to pretend to be wickedwiggy the corvette coniseur, or an old biker **** it makes no difference to me...Be as many people as you wish, or some old 'female'....

It all boils down to you being one weird person...An appropriate spokesman for Synlube...




Nuke.........I see you are standing too close to the, "reactor", again.



As usual,you never have anything intelligent or useful to offer this thread,just more drivel!

Now, whenever someone chimes in on this thread who is obviously not me,by default,it's me according to the looney world of NUKE!

Just because you are the one with multiple identities,doesn't mean everyone else has them as well.


What fantasy motor oil are you using in your fantasy Vette this week,nuke?

That must be some good stuff you're smoking man...
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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
KIRK/MIRO...If you wish to pretend to be wickedwiggy the corvette coniseur, or an old biker **** it makes no difference to me...Be as many people as you wish, or some old 'female'....

It all boils down to you being one weird person...An appropriate spokesman for Synlube...


So how's the RL working for you?
When I get home and can drive it again I will let you know...As I had the oil in the garage, I used it.

The L48/350 engine would love anything you put in it though...Though the thought of Synlube in it would probably cause it to throw a rod and belch smoke.

But that will never happen as after reading through all the threads here and on BITOG know one it their right mind would ever use that crud.

Notice I say right mind? As Kirk/Miro...a man who pretends to be a woman, while parading around in womens undergarments...could never be termed 'in their right mind'
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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
Well Kirk I surely hope I never have to be subjected to your idea of a 'real woman'

Kirks idea of a 'real woman' is one that urinates standing up.

When Kirk is pushed the feminine side of his personality takes over...He 'wigs' out and presto chango... the pink panties come on and out comes 'wiggy'...LOL...



Well..........WHERE IS THIS WIGGY. I read her post. Why don't you go to the motorcycle forum she is on with her bikini pic she mentioned in the last post of hers.

Instead....You would rather hang here with your fantasies. The real weirdo is you!!
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