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quote:
Originally posted by Big Bear:
there is alot of interesting info in that old Synlube Thread.

Yes indeed, Miro—a very intelligent person—provided some interesting information from time-to-time about oils and the automotive industry in general.

Houckster, a SynLube user, provided us with his personal experience. Of course, he was up against the wall most of the time and had very few supporters over the years. After being driven off by incessant ridiculing, he would reappear occasionally with more of his personal experience until once again he was driven off the thread. Usual for SynLube users. The last time was just a few short months ago when he was accused of being Miro, and/or owning the business. One could easily see that he was neither when Houckster's posts were carefully read. Unfortunately, he will never return.

Paul.
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quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:

Yeah, ole' Hock claimed it for years on BITOG in his public profile. Till it got posted here anyway. Then claimed it was altered.........

Still haven't seen an answer to my question. Was he lying for all those years? Or now?



Hey Bozo(Trajan),this is not a synlube thread.

The gist of this thread is the OP(crazy nuke),is stating he "thinks" he is sticking with a particular oil,in this case.....Redline oil. Well dah........he purchased(so he claims) two cases of Redline way back for his,"stash",as he calls it.

However,one could argue this thread is open game to discuss any other oil vs Redline,or whatever,based on the wording of this thread at the start............So bring it on!!!!!!!!!


Hey,nuke......If you change your mind and decide to use Amsoil,or synlube, I will buy your redline 'stash' at half price, and burn it in my oil heater..........Deal!


Maybe I could heat my house with it......

http://www.wasteoilheat.com/


Let me add,I would first run the Redline in all my Engines,while waiting for more Synlube to be shipped back to me free after sending back the used Synlube.
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Hey Bozo(Trajan),this is not a synlube thread.


Captain Kirk, this Trajan War of yours is really getting old, can we go back to discussing different motor oil's.

I know I have been guilty of slamming Synlube, that was wrong since I have not used the oil, hopefully we will all only attack oil's if we have used them.

Captain Kirk and Trajan need to resolve there dispute somehow.
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Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
This test below is standardized,and compares Amsoil to Redline. I vote for Amsoil.

Don't even try and say the test was manipulated,it wasn't.

Amsoil would not be able to print or fake a test it if it wasn't true or manipulated..........certainly not year,after year. It would have been debunked by now.

http://www.enhancedsyntheticoi...d_Line_vs_AMSOIL.htm


Hey Totenkopf, this isn't an Amnsoil thread, or a thread about what oil I use in a "beamer" I don't own, or a thread about amsoil tests either.
quote:
Originally posted by Big Bear:
quote:
Hey Bozo(Trajan),this is not a synlube thread.


Captain Kirk, this Trajan War of yours is really getting old, can we go back to discussing different motor oil's.

I know I have been guilty of slamming Synlube, that was wrong since I have not used the oil, hopefully we will all only attack oil's if we have used them.

Captain Kirk and Trajan need to resolve there dispute somehow.


Just like Big Bear and Tim need to.
quote:
Originally posted by Big Bear:
quote:
Hey Bozo(Trajan),this is not a synlube thread.


Captain Kirk, this Trajan War of yours is really getting old, can we go back to discussing different motor oil's.

I know I have been guilty of slamming Synlube, that was wrong since I have not used the oil, hopefully we will all only attack oil's if we have used them.

Captain Kirk and Trajan need to resolve there dispute somehow.


Hey Bear, are you offering a claw of peace? LOL. We should stick to the topic at hand. LOL

AD
Trajan:
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Captain Kirk and Trajan need to resolve there dispute somehow.



Bear,Trajan/nuke incessantly brings up/slams Synlube.....everywhere and anytime,even on bitog. He brings it up whether I post or not,and whatever I post about,he reverts back to synlube. WHY?

Trajans/Nuke war is not with me if you read his posts..........IT'S WITH SYNLUBE!!! WHY?

Apparently years ago Trajan was a salesmen selling some kind of fuel additive on behalf of shell(pep,pepco ?),and Miro of Synlube happened to be the one who exposed Trajan and the bogus additive causing him to lose all sales,and his life fell apart or something like that.


I have discussed the topic of this thread plenty,when I am not be interrupted by Trajan.
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Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by Big Bear:
quote:
Hey Bozo(Trajan),this is not a synlube thread.


Captain Kirk, this Trajan War of yours is really getting old, can we go back to discussing different motor oil's.

I know I have been guilty of slamming Synlube, that was wrong since I have not used the oil, hopefully we will all only attack oil's if we have used them.

Captain Kirk and Trajan need to resolve there dispute somehow.


Hey Bear, are you offering a claw of peace? LOL. We should stick to the topic at hand. LOL

AD


Its probably not going to happen.
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
Trajan:
quote:
Captain Kirk and Trajan need to resolve there dispute somehow.



Bear,Trajan/nuke incessantly brings up/slams Synlube.....everywhere and anytime,even on bitog. He brings it up whether I post or not,and whatever I post about,he reverts back to synlube. WHY?

Trajans/Nuke war is not with me if you read his posts..........IT'S WITH SYNLUBE!!! WHY?

Apparently years ago Trajan was a salesmen selling some kind of fuel additive on behalf of shell(pep,pepco ?),and Miro of Synlube happened to be the one who exposed Trajan and the bogus additive causing him to lose all sales,and his life fell apart or something like that.


I have discussed the topic of this thread plenty,when I am not be interrupted by Trajan.


Now I remember, if Trajan worked for Shell maybe he knows Tim.
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Now I remember, if Trajan worked for Shell maybe he knows Tim.



That,is a very good question. Maybe Tim can at least discuss that fuel additive issue way back.



Here is the old thread/quoted, where it was discussed........

go to www.ftc.gov

Search SHELL and PEP

http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EP...rch/Day-16/a6725.htm

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2000/01/shellcmp.htm

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/09/shellcastrol.shtm

Then you will understand why an unemployed, ex PEP salesman (TRAJAN) has so much grudge agains SynLube.

Whe wanted to sell that stuff to our customers, and while he succeeded to con CASTROL, BLUE CORAL and others, he did not expect that AAA will rund a FTP-75 test on the PEP additive and that the results will end up at EPA, FTC, DoE.

Fired by SHELL abandoned by his wife and loosing his $2.3 million commision on sales of PEP, and the poor guy lost it. (Mentally)

So they finally released him from the instittion and he is now and a revenge binge against SynLube.

But this time around it may not be a cosy mental institution that you will end up in....

NOT TRUE ?

Well the publish you TRUE and verifiable identity, NAME, ADDRESS, you know the drill...

After all if you are just a virtual existence on Internet with sole purpose in life to bash SynLube, what are you affraid of?
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Trying to be peaceful here and not cause any discourse. It's your vehicle, put whatever you want in your crankcase.

1. If the vehicle is under warranty, use the oil spec'd by the manufacturer and change by OLM or manual recommendations.

2. Out of Warranty: Use whatever you want and sleep well at night.

3. If you want extended OCI's, do some research and pick the best oil for your needs. Wether it is a Grp III, IV, or V oil, it is up to you.

Since I am conservative, I use a Grp III synthetic and change every 5-6K miles. I follow the severe service schedule. The OM says Mineral (conventional) preferred, change every 3750. I use API spec'd oil and have no worries.

It should be up to the owner to put in whatever they want. They will have to deal with the dealer, manufacturer, or oil distributor/refiner, if there is an oil related problem.

That is my .02 bash away if you want.

Dave
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
Captain, can you supply the link where Miro exposed Trajan in the old Synlube thread?



I think it was page 40 something? I'll check..............PAGE 45 AND ON......MENTIONS 'PEP' MOLECULE..

https://forums.noria.com/eve/fo...995/m/626103953/p/45

ABOVE LINK IS PAGE 45,JUST PAST MIDWAY DOWN.


THIS BELOW LINK WHERE IT CONTINUES IS PAGE 49

https://forums.noria.com/eve/fo...995/m/626103953/p/49



The turkey hill joke mentioned by Miro is because it just so happens that one of the top tier gas stations happens to be Turkey hill,which is where Trajan was fueling up because he live in SE Pennsylvania,where there happens to be a turkey hill station nearby Trajan.

http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html


This is the turkey hill link........where Trajan goes.....

http://www.turkeyhillstores.com/


This would be the exact TURKEY HILL MINIT MART TRAJAN goes to on this list....................THIRD DOWN ON LIST...

http://www.pennsylvaniagasprices.com/
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quote:
Originally posted by Big Bear:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
Trajan:
quote:
Captain Kirk and Trajan need to resolve there dispute somehow.



Bear,Trajan/nuke incessantly brings up/slams Synlube.....everywhere and anytime,even on bitog. He brings it up whether I post or not,and whatever I post about,he reverts back to synlube. WHY?

Trajans/Nuke war is not with me if you read his posts..........IT'S WITH SYNLUBE!!! WHY?

Apparently years ago Trajan was a salesmen selling some kind of fuel additive on behalf of shell(pep,pepco ?),and Miro of Synlube happened to be the one who exposed Trajan and the bogus additive causing him to lose all sales,and his life fell apart or something like that.


I have discussed the topic of this thread plenty,when I am not be interrupted by Trajan.


Now I remember, if Trajan worked for Shell maybe he knows Tim.


Yeah, some idiot made that claim. Another idiot, or maybe the same idiot, soaks it up like breast milk.

Some other idiot, more than likely the same idiot, also claims I worked for E/M.

Ok, you got me. Can't pretend anymore. I'm actually Jorma Jaakko Ollila. I became chairman of Shell a little more than four years ago.
TRAJAN:

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Ok, you got me. Can't pretend anymore. I'm actually Jorma Jaakko Ollila. I became chairman of Shell a little more than four years ago.



TRAJAN,That was the most 'normal' thing for you you to say. That statement is exactly what I expect from you.

Have you seen the movie, Shutter Island lately? Care for a little more role playing to help with your therapy?

http://www.shutterisland.com/#/home
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KIRK and his many alias just crack me up. I first came upon Kirk/Miro when he posted on BITOG claiming 'the proof is inside'.

Well after listenng to his bombastic claims and the other synlube users who always magically signed up, and used the standard synlube 'modus operandi' of attacking the 'non-believer'. I discovered that Miro's company was perma banned in Nevada. He gets around that using this Mirox corp which I discovered was in the arrears to the tax man as well. Also the nevada BBB gave synlube an 'F' rating. In general a cruddy company. It's so 'low budget' though who cares.

Kirk/Miro also did pose as 'houckster' on BITOG when it was pointed out that his profile listed him as 'owner of synlube' it was magically changed.

Kirk/Miro/Wiggy/Houckster/Annie/Inhaliburton and so many others I can't remember all have the same way of posting. It's gotten comical as this 'boob' thinks its a synlube witch hunt. Nobody cares about this goop only the one person who has no life...'Miro'...Who uses the same tired boring tactic's. Miro is a joke to me and i will always laugh at this low rent 'boob' and the many guises and sexes he chooses to post under.

In closing Miro/Kirk and the many other guises are an amusement to me. There attacks are comical, as this person feels they mean something. Miro/Kirk is a nothing to me.

Goodnight BOOB!
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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
KIRK and his many alias just crack me up. I first came upon Kirk/Miro when he posted on BITOG claiming 'the proof is inside'.

Well after listenng to his bombastic claims and the other synlube users who always magically signed up, and used the standard synlube 'modus operandi' of attacking the 'non-believer'. I discovered that Miro's company was perma banned in Nevada. He gets around that using this Mirox corp which I discovered was in the arrears to the tax man as well. Also the nevada BBB gave synlube an 'F' rating. In general a cruddy company. It's so 'low budget' though who cares.

Kirk/Miro also did pose as 'houckster' on BITOG when it was pointed out that his profile listed him as 'owner of synlube' it was magically changed.

Kirk/Miro/Wiggy/Houckster/Annie/Inhaliburton and so many others I can't remember all have the same way of posting. It's gotten comical as this 'boob' thinks its a synlube witch hunt. Nobody cares about this goop only the one person who has no life...'Miro'...Who uses the same tired boring tactic's. Miro is a joke to me and i will always laugh at this low rent 'boob' and the many guises and sexes he chooses to post under.

In closing Miro/Kirk and the many other guises are an amusement to me. There attacks are comical, as this person feels they mean something. Miro/Kirk is a nothing to me.

Goodnight BOOB!



Hi Trajan.......I see the Nuke persona is back!


You were saying..............
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:

Yeah, ole' Hock claimed it for years on BITOG in his public profile. Till it got posted here anyway. Then claimed it was altered.........
Still haven't seen an answer to my question. Was he lying for all those years? Or now?

Always looking for answers to your goofy questions. You never answer questions put to you. You'll never get an answer to that question. Morons like yourself drove him off this board with your ridiculous accusations.

Well?
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:

Yeah, ole' Hock claimed it for years on BITOG in his public profile. Till it got posted here anyway. Then claimed it was altered.........
Still haven't seen an answer to my question. Was he lying for all those years? Or now?

Always looking for answers to your goofy questions. You never answer questions put to you. You'll never get an answer to that question. Morons like yourself drove him off this board with your ridiculous accusations.

Well?


inHaliburton:

The one thing I noticed is that Houck's writing style was not only different then Miro,but didn't have any hint that he was European like Miro. It would be impossible that Houckster is Miro. Houckster is very well written actually, if you read his posts.

I would think he might be back one day,who knows.


What about this guy,fowvay........

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<<<<<I used this stuff after reading an article in European Car. At least I think it was European Car magazine back then.... anyhoo...

I put it in my 1986 Jetta Diesel at 121,000 miles and installed a canton mecca remote oil filter at the same time. I changed the filter every 25,000 miles and added a quart of oil at that time.

I sold the car at 486,000 miles after it was rear ended by a Chevy Chevette doing 45mph. It still ran great and delivered a solid 42mpg in the city (redline to redline shifts) and averaged a healthy 52mpg at 70mph.

I did change the oil out every 50,000 miles as per there directions back in the early 90's and allthough extremly black it still was performing very well and there was no sludge build up anywhere.

I thought the company had fallen off the face of the Earth or had gone out of business. That is untill today when I came across a link to it from another website.

I will try it out first in our Ford Focus since it sees the most use. I will report back in 2 years when it had accumalted 50,000 miles and let you know the averages.>>>>>
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I think this guy,Fowvay, also posts on bitog. Wonder how the focus is doing with synlube. PS. My cars are still running...SWEET..


Kirk
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All of the naysayers who have also made fun of Miro for bringing the Yugo into this country don't know that it really was a fiat.

The economy had crapped out and was ripe for the Yugo and did well, until the economy got better and people wanted HUMMERS instead.

http://www.inet.hr/~bpauric/epov.htm


Now that the economy has crapped out again,guess what's coming back.....you got it,FIAT.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/sto...iat-ceo-deal-worked/

Believe me..the economy won't recover this time and go into Hummer mode like before.


The Yugo/Fiat is here to stay. Just wait and see! Laugh all you want. When gas hits 10 bucks a gallon.......Look what the Europeans drive.

http://www.dieselstation.com/p...vo-2010-car-pics.jpg


This would be the oil the many Europeans use.

http://www.europaparts.com/tot...ine-oil-5-liter.html

This is why I use synlube.....it has loads of moly,and graphite,and even teflon

http://matrixsyntheticoils.com...i_moly_products.html


Apparently Teflon when correctly used, and with the right quality/size/and density is proven to work.

http://www.qmiaustralia.com.au...MI%20Test%20Data.pdf

This is just one example I can find regarding teflon......it sure can't hurt.

I have cut open my oil filters with over 10k..........and absolutely clean as a whistle!
You are correct, Capitan. Houckster's writing style and vocabulary is unlike any other poster in the Synlube thread. Certainly light years away from Miro's style. No question about his identity in my opinion. Houckster is a user just like yourself, Kirk. It's too bad that he no longer participates. You are the ONLY one who has not been affected and chased-off by the boors. You are made of sterner stuff, my friend. Congratulations!

Thanks for the links, I'll eventually read them.

Best regards, Paul.
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quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Is the Sinlube push on again?

AD


I don't think a mention of Synlube can be called a "push." Just more information from a mere user, ADFD1. Don't you feel that it's at least interesting that there seem to be some users out there who appear to be using the product successfully?

For the record, ADFD1, I too, would like to see more in-depth and long-term testing of the product. Can't hurt, right?
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Is the Sinlube push on again?

AD


I don't think a mention of Synlube can be called a "push." Just more information from a mere user, ADFD1. Don't you feel that it's at least interesting that there seem to be some users out there who appear to be using the product successfully?

For the record, ADFD1, I too, would like to see more in-depth and long-term testing of the product. Can't hurt, right?


I would too, but with all the deception surrounded by the product, fake address, complaints, the list goes on......I have many doubts as do others, that's all.

AD
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Originally posted by ADFD1:

I would too, but with all the deception surrounded by the product, fake address, complaints, the list goes on......I have many doubts as do others, that's all.

AD


Noted, AD.

Some of the negative info I've read is suspect and/or of no serious consequence. Miro and his products has been around for decades. Longevity tells me if I'm going to use a product that has to be returned for "replenishing" will likely be there in a couple of years when I need them. If this stuff does what Capt. Kirk and many others have claimed over the years, then it stands alone. Not one user has come forward to say they are dissatisfied with (except for Trajan's virtual neighbour with the blown engine because of using Synlube Wink ), or that the product does not perform as stated.
How many actual users do you know? I mean really know as in face to face conversations? It is very easy to be a dozen people on the WWW, and hype a product to the naïve less educated. Remember a fool and his money? To trick the software on these sites use a different computer from a different location. Best I can tell maybe there's about 3 people using Synlube, using many different handles, all with an agenda. I don't know any of them, and from what I can tell I'd rather not.

Now as far as Amsoil. RL, Pennzoil, Castrol, etc. I think most of the testimony is valid, although sales people with agendas tend to embellish. Still the products have a real following, and I'd use any one of them before I try Synlube. Hey but each his own!!!!!!!!!!!

Things like non existant addresses are three strikes in my book, and there are several other strikes if you read thru these threads again.

AD
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Originally posted by ADFD1:
How many actual users do you know? I mean really know as in face to face conversations? It is very easy to be a dozen people on the WWW, and hype a product to the naïve less educated. Remember a fool and his money? To trick the software on these sites use a different computer from a different location. Best I can tell maybe there's about 3 people using Synlube, using many different handles, all with an agenda. I don't know any of them, and from what I can tell I'd rather not.

Now as far as Amsoil. RL, Pennzoil, Castrol, etc. I think most of the testimony is valid, although sales people with agendas tend to embellish. Still the products have a real following, and I'd use any one of them before I try Synlube. Hey but each his own!!!!!!!!!!!

Things like non existant addresses are three strikes in my book, and there are several other strikes if you read thru these threads again.

AD

I hear what you're saying, AD. Those are old arguments. I have not had an in-person discussion re Synlube. Capt. Kirk, Houckster, Annie, et al seem legitimate to me. They do not appear to be the same person(s).

How could Miro stay in business for so long selling a few quarts a week? And where are the unhappy customers? Surely, (and don't call me shirley) they would have surfaced by now.
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Is the Sinlube push on again?

AD


I don't think a mention of Synlube can be called a "push." Just more information from a mere user, ADFD1. Don't you feel that it's at least interesting that there seem to be some users out there who appear to be using the product successfully?

For the record, ADFD1, I too, would like to see more in-depth and long-term testing of the product. Can't hurt, right?


I would too, but with all the deception surrounded by the product, fake address, complaints, the list goes on......I have many doubts as do others, that's all.

AD


Well, we know one who whined about peoplea asking for information about it. Who attacked people who questioned it, wasted bandwith defending it.

And yet, won't use it.

Page 33 of the synlube thread.

Trajan
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Posted Mar 16, 1:00 PM Hide Post
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Originally posted by ADFD1:

quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
Blah blah blah. Yada yada yada. Gimme gimme gimme. You have to gimme this. You have to gimme that. I dewmand to know this. I demand to know that. You owe me this, you owe me that. I need instant gratification. I behave just like my spoiled rotten teeny bopper kid. 31 pages—and heading for 50 pages—of the same old crap. I'm too lazy to read. Same blenders from schools of higher learning and weekend driveway oil changers types asking the same dumb old stuff. Mud slingers at best.



So a car enthusiast asking some questions that all oil companies will answer is wrong?

Just a few off the top of my head.
cSt @ 40º C ?
cSt @ 100º C ?

Flash Point, ºC,?
Total Base Number?
Viscosity Index?
HTHS Viscosity?

No one is asking for trade secrets. A VOA would tell, but why would someone want to waste their money to find out? Besides Synlube Inc would say the oil was tampered with. LOL

AD


Apparently it is wrong. We're suppossed to just fork over a few hundred dollars on faith alone.

I don't understand why inHaliburton in paticular is defending a product he says he won't use.
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
I hear what you're saying, AD. Those are old arguments. I have not had an in-person discussion re Synlube. Capt. Kirk, Houckster, Annie, et al seem legitimate to me. They do not appear to be the same person(s).

How could Miro stay in business for so long selling a few quarts a week? And where are the unhappy customers? Surely, (and don't call me shirley) they would have surfaced by now.


Well I think a few of them are one in the same. I also think hosting a website is pretty cheap. I must tell you that Synlube site leaves a lot to ones imagination, wouldn't you say? So yea if Kirk/Miro sucker in a few $$$$ a month what is the downside? JMO

I'm sure this should fire him/them up all over again, but since you asked I thought I'd offer my opinion on the matter.

I agree Trajan, I want to keep the conversation civil. I have to tell you, this NY born and raised boy wouldn't spend a dollar on the stuff. Too many doubts, lots of name calling and no facts, just some testimony by shills with an agenda. I'll pass.

Now if I actually knew someone using the stuff, and could see for myself then maybe I'd consider it. Until then I see it as a money making con job. Sorry Synlubers.

AD
No offense taken, AD.

Yes, the website is not high tech. He probably put it together himself either by learning a bit of html, a rudimentary website program, or a site that uses templets and you fill in the blanks.

I'm familiar with with all three plus DreamWeaver. I have 3 web sites of my own.

Nah, Kirk isn't Miro anymore than Houckster is Miro, or Annie for that matter. Perhaps those who claim they are one and the same do so because they have multiples accounts/aliases themselves. Seems paranoidish to me.
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Originally posted by inHaliburton:
No offense taken, AD.

Yes, the website is not high tech. He probably put it together himself either by learning a bit of html, a rudimentary website program, or a site that uses templets and you fill in the blanks.

I'm familiar with with all three plus DreamWeaver. I have 3 web sites of my own.

Nah, Kirk isn't Miro anymore than Houckster is Miro, or Annie for that matter. Perhaps those who claim they are one and the same do so because they have multiples accounts/aliases themselves. Seems paranoidish to me.


Glad we can keep this discussion civil. I guess we can agree to disagree on the multi-screen names, but its all good.

Have you taken the Synlube plunge yet? Early on IIRC you were considering it.

AD
Hey Trajan. Don't use the stuff. Nobody cares. Use what turns your crank. Again, nobody cares. Nobody is telling you, or trying to convince you or anyone else to use the stuff. Nobody cares if you buy it or not. Nobody has tried to get anyone to buy the stuff. All they have ever said (i.e., Annie, Houckster, Capt. Kirk, et al) is they they are having success with the product. Nothing more! You guys want proof, tests, numbers, etc. before you would consider using the stuff. No problimo. Wait for the data. Nobody cares. Just don't trample those who are using the product and are merely reporting their collective experience. That's it! You on the other hand, with your Shell/PEP fiasco have a personal grudge with Miro. We all know that and we can try to comprehend what it must be like having a wife walk out when the money dried up, being heavily medicated while wearing a straight jacket in a rubber room for months on end and being a street person. Believe me, we all sympathize...
At least we don't see Synlube throwing up 4-Ball Wear Tests.

I have not seen any graphs comparing Synlube to various oil's.

They pretty much say put the stuff in and leave it in there for 50,000 miles or more.

Its just up to everyone reading this forum to decide whether or not Synlube is an oil that they want to use versus the many motor oil's we buy at Wal-Mart and other auto parts stores.
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