I received a copy of the MSDS for Synlube from Miro last Friday. I have finally found time to post it to a hosting site. It is being hosted temporarily for the next 30 days.
http://freepdfhosting.com/b14d512c6c.pdf
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Information given herein is offered in good faith as accurate, but without guarantee. Conditions of use and suitability of the product for particular uses are beyond our control; the user therefore assumes all risks of use of the product and WE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL
WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Does this cancel the warranty offered on the website?
And the approval date: APPROVAL DATE: 3/19/10.
Just made?
WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Does this cancel the warranty offered on the website?
And the approval date: APPROVAL DATE: 3/19/10.
Just made?
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Information given herein is offered in good faith as accurate, but without guarantee. Conditions of use and suitability of the product for particular uses are beyond our control; the user therefore assumes all risks of use of the product and WE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL
WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Does this cancel the warranty offered on the website?
And the approval date: APPROVAL DATE: 3/19/10.
Just made?
Every company has a similar disclaimer to cover themselves for any abuse that would void the warranty. A clause is in every owners manual/contract. Why would synlube be any different??
WE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Clearly points out they don't warranty it at all.
Clearly points out they don't warranty it at all.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
WE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Yes,that's right,IF you abuse the vehicle,...then all warranties are null and void.
That isn't what it says.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
That isn't what it says.
Trajen,I think you need to go to the synlube site and read the warranty. All your questions will be answered. What has been posted here does not suffice.
last year Houckster promised me to send this lubricant for UOA but after a week, 2 weeks,..4 weeks....2months....4months..and today after one year.... nothing data for UOA, so in my opinion, for a customer who ask this UOA in this NORIA Forum or BITOG Forum it's very simple question because we are in Oil / Lubrication Forums not in "Faith and Religion Forum".....
see....
enoch
see....
enoch
It says right on the website that to keep the warranty the oil must be changed.
And yet, he insists it does not....
http://www.synlube.com/serv01.htm
Scroll about half way down to the big blue letters.
Then go to condition #9
And yet, he insists it does not....
http://www.synlube.com/serv01.htm
Scroll about half way down to the big blue letters.
Then go to condition #9
ahhaha i found in Synlube MSDS this lubricant have passed the test in Mobil Laboratory ( i saved both MSDS for comparation)ahhaahha.... 
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
It says right on the website that to keep the warranty the oil must be changed.
And yet, he insists it does not....
http://www.synlube.com/serv01.htm
Scroll about half way down to the big blue letters.
Then go to condition #9
Trajen,Did you happen to notice the asterisk?
At 50k,..synlube must be sent an oil sample(from changed filter),then.., once the UOA is done,you will be told if the oil needs to be changed or not. The oil change may very well be waived. However, If changed,you receive 100% credit for new oil shipped to you free.
We have had this exchange before,and I addressed it then!! Somehow,I suspect you did see the information in plain view and are simply doing what you do best,....be Trajen.
this requirement may be waived by SynLube if oil sample is provided for oil analysis at this mileage interval?
Do you know what the definition of may is?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/may
Do you know what the definition of may is?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/may
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
this requirement may be waived by SynLube if oil sample is provided for oil analysis at this mileage interval?
Do you know what the definition of may is?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/may
Well apparently you know what the definition of "may" is,..please tell us,..and how it relates to the synlube warranty.
Dear Captain Kirk,
Can you explain us why in Synlube MSDS this lubricant passed test from Mobil Laboratory? this is same words like MSDS from Mobil1 products....
enoch
Can you explain us why in Synlube MSDS this lubricant passed test from Mobil Laboratory? this is same words like MSDS from Mobil1 products....
enoch
How do you expect captain Kirk should be able to explain it? If you think he is the owner of Synlube, then I guess you must be full of it...
If you don't understand what the man says, that he is a USER of Synlube, then why do you still want to communicate with him?
It is obvious that you don't believe what he says, any way.
On the other hand, throwing out accusations, like you have done, is very easy.
I see that several people have decided to join, probably for fun.
I have heard rumors that Trajan is on Excon Mobiles payroll, and I think it is very hard for him to PROVE to me, otherwise.
Remember, there is very little proof, that I will accept.
You understand the problem?
You can read MSDSs intill your face turn blue, but that won't make you an expert on lubrications. At some point, you will have to at least SEE the stuff you are writing about....
It is comparable with learning to swim by taking a mail course.
And still, you claim to know everything, even without having seen the product?
That's quite amazing.
By the way, I am also a satisfied user of this product, but I only used it for two and a half year and 72000 kilometers in one car...
I really would like to see that being done with Delvac 1.
You can just call me, at 004793212261, (just to make sure that I am a real person(and not MIRO), if you don't believe what I am saying.
Of course, that is free to do for all.
I will answer if I have the time.
If you want to do a search for phone numbers around the world, it can be easily done at www.ixquick.com
If you don't understand what the man says, that he is a USER of Synlube, then why do you still want to communicate with him?
It is obvious that you don't believe what he says, any way.
On the other hand, throwing out accusations, like you have done, is very easy.
I see that several people have decided to join, probably for fun.
I have heard rumors that Trajan is on Excon Mobiles payroll, and I think it is very hard for him to PROVE to me, otherwise.
Remember, there is very little proof, that I will accept.
You understand the problem?
You can read MSDSs intill your face turn blue, but that won't make you an expert on lubrications. At some point, you will have to at least SEE the stuff you are writing about....
It is comparable with learning to swim by taking a mail course.
And still, you claim to know everything, even without having seen the product?
That's quite amazing.
By the way, I am also a satisfied user of this product, but I only used it for two and a half year and 72000 kilometers in one car...
I really would like to see that being done with Delvac 1.
You can just call me, at 004793212261, (just to make sure that I am a real person(and not MIRO), if you don't believe what I am saying.
Of course, that is free to do for all.
I will answer if I have the time.
If you want to do a search for phone numbers around the world, it can be easily done at www.ixquick.com
Here we go again with the insults. Gotta tell you that sells product, and will certainly gain you respect. Oh wait that was lost on the other site.
Kirk must really love Miro to defend a product and company the way he does. I can't wait to see if a VOA if/when it appears, or a trusted member posts a UOA on the stuff. Not likely because I doubt a respected member will actually use it. Then if a sample is sent to a respected member we'd have no idea how long the oil was in use, so we'll never see one.
If any of these reports come to be, the spin masters will be burning the midnight oil doing damage control.
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Kirk must really love Miro to defend a product and company the way he does. I can't wait to see if a VOA if/when it appears, or a trusted member posts a UOA on the stuff. Not likely because I doubt a respected member will actually use it. Then if a sample is sent to a respected member we'd have no idea how long the oil was in use, so we'll never see one.
If any of these reports come to be, the spin masters will be burning the midnight oil doing damage control.
AD
Well, he got run off from BITOG with his tail between his legs, so maybe he thinks his "style" will work here?
New ad slogan
Synlube lube 4 life: The Masochist's choice.
Synlube lube 4 life: The Masochist's choice.
Careful they might just use it.
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I dont know if he is dying to try it...but im sure he dont want to take the risk killing is engine doing so.
quote:Originally posted by vitual_mage:
I dont know if he is dying to try it...but im sure he dont want to take the risk killing is engine doing so.
How can you be so sure of that? Did you ask him? If he can't handle the stress of trying a new product,that's on him. I had no stress issues doing that when I poured in synlube almost a decade ago into several cars. I did what I deemed to be a reasonable sane amount of research to be confident enough to try it. I have never looked back.
The stress of the truth is another issue he seems to have difficulty with. Trajen already implied to me he was a "sugar daddy",..what's the problem then?? Can't be money!!
The Synlube product says what it does,..and does what it says!! NO STRESS HERE!! NO PROBLEMS!! NO ISSUES!! JUST PROVEN RESULTS!!
quote:Originally posted by vitual_mage:
I dont know if he is dying to try it...but im sure he dont want to take the risk killing is engine doing so.
You are correct my friend. I have no desire to take such a risk.
Gotta love how they keep switching tactics. How he tries to steer it away from a msds.
I see good ol' Johnny-b is back! Johnny-b, after all your outlandish claims, and the attacking nature, of those who didn't hold your "belief" in the wonder product, of the 20th and 21st century. It's probably good that your hiding over here...Johnny-b, you and the product you defend...Have no credibility.
The good captain, I see is bloviating as usual, and as usual... Saying absolutely nothing of importance.....Captain Kirk is a big bag of wind...What can you say about a guy who drives a Yugo? NOT VERY SMART...I imagine the women are just fighting over you, and that turd.
The good captain, I see is bloviating as usual, and as usual... Saying absolutely nothing of importance.....Captain Kirk is a big bag of wind...What can you say about a guy who drives a Yugo? NOT VERY SMART...I imagine the women are just fighting over you, and that turd.
Easy there Nuc. Stick with the facts we know, and all the deflections we're getting.
Their style is hanging themselves.
Their style is hanging themselves.
Sorry...I'm not worked up though. The whole Synlube arguement you have to admit is...COMICAL.
Thought I would just come in and slap em' around a bit...Just to show em' I still care.
Thought I would just come in and slap em' around a bit...Just to show em' I still care.
quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
Sorry...I'm not worked up though. The whole Synlube arguement you have to admit is...COMICAL.
Thought I would just come in and slap em' around a bit...Just to show em' I still care.
quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
I see good ol' Johnny-b is back! Johnny-b, after all your outlandish claims, and the attacking nature, of those who didn't hold your "belief" in the wonder product, of the 20th and 21st century. It's probably good that your hiding over here...Johnny-b, you and the product you defend...Have no credibility.
The good captain, I see is bloviating as usual, and as usual... Saying absolutely nothing of importance.....Captain Kirk is a big bag of wind...What can you say about a guy who drives a Yugo? NOT VERY SMART...I imagine the women are just fighting over you, and that turd.
I drive a 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD 4.7 v8 I bought new. My wife drives a 2009 mustang we brought new. The women fight over me because I work out and it shows!! One even called the house,...when the wife was home! What can I say! However, I do remain loyal...just want to address that issue before anyone thinks otherwise!!
Yeh I imagine those 'ladies' are real lookers.
quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
Yeh I imagine those 'ladies' are real lookers.
Nucleardawg....... The nuclear segment is really not needed to describe you!!
Don't take the bait Nuclear. Stay on the MSDS.
Such as "this lubricant passed test from Mobil Laboratory" just like Mobil MSDSs.
That hasn't been answered. Did they send it to a Mobil lab?
If so, why?
Do oil makers send it to a competitor's lab? I don't know.
Such as "this lubricant passed test from Mobil Laboratory" just like Mobil MSDSs.
That hasn't been answered. Did they send it to a Mobil lab?
If so, why?
Do oil makers send it to a competitor's lab? I don't know.
Yeh...Back on message...Your right Trajan.
1) The MSDS provided is laughably amateurish
if your going to lie to us Synlube, please in the future do a better job, as your efforts so far, are proving just plain comical.
2) When will the Phantom VOA be provided?
1) The MSDS provided is laughably amateurish
if your going to lie to us Synlube, please in the future do a better job, as your efforts so far, are proving just plain comical.
2) When will the Phantom VOA be provided?
Dear Jhonny B, ok if Captain cannot explain why, as a user can you forward this to Miro so He can explain me why? thanks and regards,
enoch
enoch
quote:Originally posted by enochca:
Dear Captain Kirk,
Can you explain us why in Synlube MSDS this lubricant passed test from Mobil Laboratory? this is same words like MSDS from Mobil1 products....
enoch
I will send him an email if no one else will. I have to give him credit, he always replies in a timely manner and has provided everything I have asked of him.
My God.....
You really do need professional help.
You really do need professional help.
quote:Trajan
Provide the NAME or ZIP of the 2007 Z4 owner
until you do you are just proving you are SHELL sponored lier - prove it to all the Noria readers, why are you avoiding a simple request, now that your identity has been discovered !?
Sorry miro, there are only two products I use with the name shell in it.
Shell V Power.
stuffed clam shells.
Shell V Power.
stuffed clam shells.
quote:
He will probably make up some excuse, if that's the case then there is no reason to buy this Synlube.
Naysayers Miss the Big Picture
Noria may just delete the SynLube thread !!!
For now it is under review for the nasty language....
Noria may just delete the SynLube thread !!!
For now it is under review for the nasty language....
Yes it is under review for the nasty language, out and out false claims, and free advertising that Synlube tried.
Hopefully Noria will look at the big picture and realize the professionalism of the website was compromised by the sales pitch of Synlube.
Hopefully the sales pitch tactic leads to a ban of all 'Synners'.
Hopefully Noria will look at the big picture and realize the professionalism of the website was compromised by the sales pitch of Synlube.
Hopefully the sales pitch tactic leads to a ban of all 'Synners'.
