I will agree with that. If Kirk uses Syn-Lube and has good luck with it, hey, no problem. I prefer a good name brand oil that is API certified. I have a hard time buying products from a vehicle trunk (the old speaker scam comes to mind). I really would not have a hard time with S-L-4_life, if the website was not from 1996. Anyone with a little computer knowledge can make a decent site with DreamWeaver and cold fusion.
I prefer a quality oil that I can find on the shelf.
Dave
Read our primer articles on High Mileage Oil, Synthetic Oil and Kinematic Viscosity
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I prefer a quality oil that I can find on the shelf.
Dave
Same here, and from a company with a real address.
AD
quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:quote:
I prefer a quality oil that I can find on the shelf.
Dave
Same here, and from a company with a real address.
AD
And verifiable, third party tests.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
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And verifiable, third party tests.
If your certified oils are so good, why do you find it necessary to use that black ARX gunk.
BTW, I used that stuff on my first Focus at about 200 000 km. Had to dig the stuff out of the bottle because it had gone solid just like sludge. Either my engine was pristine, or that stuff did not do as advertised because I noticed no difference whatsoever, except my bank account was somewhat lighter...
I still have 2 bottles. Anyone want them
Again we agree, A-rX is someething that will never see the inside of anything I own.
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Well said Lamont. You are right.
Engines today are outlasting the rest of the car. Cars today require such little maintenance. Oils today are better than ever.
I have the greatest respect for XOM's marketing. Much more professional than many of the other companies.
I'm at least glad to see Shell is using the Seq IIIG & IVA instead of the 4- ball wear test to make wear claims. LOL
Engines today are outlasting the rest of the car. Cars today require such little maintenance. Oils today are better than ever.
I have the greatest respect for XOM's marketing. Much more professional than many of the other companies.
I'm at least glad to see Shell is using the Seq IIIG & IVA instead of the 4- ball wear test to make wear claims. LOL
Well Trajan, as I have told you and the masses at least 5 times since the turn of the year why I will not used Synlube. I cannot use Synlube until warranty is up because the OCI is 5 000 kms.
At the rate I am going, it will not be very long. I drove the truck off the lot May 4th. I now have over 15 000 kms on the odometer. Frankly, I cannot wait for the day when I will install a add-on oil filter system and be able to choose an oil that will not have to be changed for 10s of thousands of kms. I am fed up with this oil change interval of 5- to 8-thousand kms. I am in and out of the jiffy lubes every 2 or 3 weeks.
At the rate I am going, it will not be very long. I drove the truck off the lot May 4th. I now have over 15 000 kms on the odometer. Frankly, I cannot wait for the day when I will install a add-on oil filter system and be able to choose an oil that will not have to be changed for 10s of thousands of kms. I am fed up with this oil change interval of 5- to 8-thousand kms. I am in and out of the jiffy lubes every 2 or 3 weeks.
Buster quoted:
Then why is there a billion dollar industry regarding new and used engine sales.........
http://search.yahoo.com/search...i=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701
http://search.yahoo.com/search...=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701
http://search.yahoo.com/search...=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701
quote:Engines today are outlasting the rest of the car. Cars today require such little maintenance. Oils today are better than ever.
Then why is there a billion dollar industry regarding new and used engine sales.........
http://search.yahoo.com/search...i=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701
http://search.yahoo.com/search...=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701
http://search.yahoo.com/search...=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701
How long does a car last........?
Consumer Reports ( www.consumerreports.org/) says the average life expectancy of a new vehicle these days is around 8 years or 150,000 miles.
That would be 50 iffy-lube visits for the average motorist! NOT ME! NO THANKS!
My wife loves the fact she never has to have her car serviced for an oil change..........I agree!
We just gas-n-go! Wash-n-wax! Everything is synthetic,even the brake fluid!
Consumer Reports ( www.consumerreports.org/) says the average life expectancy of a new vehicle these days is around 8 years or 150,000 miles.
That would be 50 iffy-lube visits for the average motorist! NOT ME! NO THANKS!
My wife loves the fact she never has to have her car serviced for an oil change..........I agree!
We just gas-n-go! Wash-n-wax! Everything is synthetic,even the brake fluid!
Read through all the synlube threads out on the web, and you get alot of claims.
But hard data, that you can actually verify, is rare. So rare that Indiana Jones would die of old age before he found it.
The promoters seem to tell us to keep an open mind..... ok is looking for evidence an example of a closed mind?? Now maybe those that just fell off the turnip truck will automatically believe all sales pitches... that seems to be the nature of most scams.
Anecdotes are no substitute for the lengthy and grueling testing that other oils are subjected to. And no one has presented a shred of evidence that SYNLUBE can pass these tests even once, let alone forever.
But hard data, that you can actually verify, is rare. So rare that Indiana Jones would die of old age before he found it.
The promoters seem to tell us to keep an open mind..... ok is looking for evidence an example of a closed mind?? Now maybe those that just fell off the turnip truck will automatically believe all sales pitches... that seems to be the nature of most scams.
Anecdotes are no substitute for the lengthy and grueling testing that other oils are subjected to. And no one has presented a shred of evidence that SYNLUBE can pass these tests even once, let alone forever.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Read through all the synlube threads out on the web, and you get alot of claims.
But hard data, that you can actually verify, is rare. So rare that Indiana Jones would die of old age before he found it.
The website is a travesty. Very poor example of marketing and information.
You don't claim that a police department uses the stuff, and not provide anything to back it up.
You don't claim to pass tests, and fail to provide anything to back it up.
Other than that, the threads here and at bitog speak volumes about this "oil".
"""MFG approved engine/trans/diff oil"""---Does that include -AR-X?
SYNLUBE HAS ALL THE PROOF I NEED! I DO BELIEVE THE PROOF YOU SPEAK OF, WAS PROVIDED TAJAN!
WOULD YOU LIKE AN INVITATION TRAJAN,PLUS DINNER AND A MOVIE-MAYBE.. A FEW COCKTAILS? SEVERAL FREE CASES OF THE STUFF? YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR A FREE ENGINE--JUST TO TRY IT! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
Up here 50 trips by the time you get outta there is at least $50. for easy math. Thats for bottom end dino probably out of the gun, so who knows what the stuff is. Do you believe the hype from the kid who is trying to upsell you. Anyway, that works out to $2500, plus 15% HST = $2875. Round if off to $3000. Sure makes Synlube look like a bargoonie at $32 per bottle.
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"""MFG approved engine/trans/diff oil"""---Does that include -AR-X?
Capt., he will never answer why he is using ARX. You know the drill. Got to be a reason for sure cuz the stuff is way over priced for doing nothing. I know cuz I got sucked in with the all the hype over on BOBALOO 4 years ago. He is trying to clean up the engine from using that BMW goop they tell the non-thinkers to use. You have to use it during warranty even if it is no good, hence, his filty engine. That is the only reason to use ARX. He know darn well if he was using Synlube he would have saved a bundle and have a pristine engine just like yours!
quote:Originally posted by inHaliburton Thats for bottom end dino probably out of the gun, so who knows what the stuff is. Do you believe the hype from the kid who is trying to upsell you.
Considering what your advocating,do you realize what you have just said?
quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:quote:Originally posted by inHaliburton:
Well Trajan, as I have told you and the masses at least 5 times since the turn of the year why I will not used Synlube. I cannot use Synlube until warranty is up because the OCI is 5 000 kms.
At the rate I am going, it will not be very long. I drove the truck off the lot May 4th. I now have over 15 000 kms on the odometer. Frankly, I cannot wait for the day when I will install a add-on oil filter system and be able to choose an oil that will not have to be changed for 10s of thousands of kms. I am fed up with this oil change interval of 5- to 8-thousand kms. I am in and out of the jiffy lubes every 2 or 3 weeks.
Why worry? According to many people here the oil can't void the warranty, the car maker would have to prove the oil is at fault if the engine takes a dump and dies.
Since synlube is such a fantastic oil, and Kirk pours into his new vehicles with no worry, and runs extended drains in new cars, why should you worry? Go for it if you have that much faith in the product. A Shipmate pal of mine dropped the Factory Fill in his new F250 and went with RL 5W20, a non certified oil w/o any fear. Oh yea RL is a real company with an actual street location.
AD
That would mean that he actually has the courage of his convictions. Never seen such rabid defense of a product by one who doesn't/is too scared to use it.
quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:
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Why worry? According to many people here the oil can't void the warranty, the car maker would have to prove the oil is at fault if the engine takes a dump and dies.
Since synlube is such a fantastic oil, and Kirk pours into his new vehicles with no worry, and runs extended drains in new cars, why should you worry? Go for it if you have that much faith in the product. A Shipmate pal of mine dropped the Factory Fill in his new F250 and went with RL 5W20, a non certified oil w/o any fear. Oh yea RL is a real company with an actual street location.
AD
AD, a touch of sarcasm. Easy there...
Well, bully for you friend. That's his truck and he's welcome to do what he wants, just like me. Nope, makes no sense to not change the oil for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 thousand miles. The numbers get real big when transforming to metric. Believe me, the Ford crowd up here are not into very long OCIs. If something with wrong with the motor or driveline, they would laugh me out of the service department if I go in there looking for warranty and can't prove that the oil had been changed every 5 000 kms. Not worth the risk. I can wait. It's unlikely that I'll have a warranty issue with the engine. I've not has one in more than 20 years. Can't remember having an issue ever with the engine or tranny. Mostly recalls over the years.
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That would mean that he actually has the courage of his convictions. Never seen such rabid defense of a product by one who doesn't/is too scared to use it.
The big bucks you've been throwing away for all those additives you've been dumping in that dirty engine of yours to clean it up after using that crumby BMW-authorized oil you been using will easily pay for loading up the truck when and if decide to switch to Synlube.
That hocky stuff you are using is not necessary if you use a quality synthetic motor oil and quality oil filter and change according to your operating manual. That's simple, basic, logical maintenance.
That's okay AD, your an okay kinda guy. You guys, along with our men and women in the military are helping to keep us safe up here, too. I'm grateful to yours and our military people.
Thank you! I love this country and I am proud to serve!
AD
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quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:
Thank you! I love this country and I am proud to serve!
AD
AD, thank you for your service to our country.