WOW !
Now I know why USED BMW are worth so much (relatively):
"In the event you received owner notification of this Service Action and neglect to have it performed within a reasonable period after notification, or choose not to have the Service Action performed, and the engine fails, the necessary repairs may not be covered under the terms of the warranty. The warranty does not cover damage, which results from negligence, improper operation of the vehicle, or improper maintenance."
How nice of BMW, and I bet they did not sent the letters by registered mail either !!!
Read our primer articles on High Mileage Oil, Synthetic Oil and Kinematic Viscosity
Miro: Improper maint would include using a non approve oil. I doubt Synlube was approved by BMW, and if he used your non approved oil and his engine failed you'd change addresses and vanish off the face of the earth.
A qt of oil used in 6000 miles is not an oil burner, get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yugo is still viewed as GARBAGE, get real. Don't you see the pattern? Synlube/Yugo= ______________. I'm sure the members can fill in the blank.
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A qt of oil used in 6000 miles is not an oil burner, get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yugo is still viewed as GARBAGE, get real. Don't you see the pattern? Synlube/Yugo= ______________. I'm sure the members can fill in the blank.
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His disciple kirk's own links have stated using the wrong viscosity oil is bad.
This synlube, which VOAs have shown to not even be its advertised weight, is not on BMW's list. Or VW, Toyota, Nissan, Ford, Mercedes, GM, Ferarri, Chrysler, Honda, Holden, Jaguar, etc...
Even selling that liquid garbage at $32per, he couldn't afford the testing fees.
It isn't even on API's list.
I see he *still* fails to prove his allegations
I asked some bimmer guys about his comments:
"it's unreadable so I stopped after the first few sentences."
And the next comment:
"As are a lot of Internet diatribes. Seems that grammar and spelling are becoming a lost art. If the poster cannot construct a sentence and at least come close to properly spelling a word (nobody's perfect, so I make some allowances here, like seeing what keys on the keyboard are immediately next to the correct letter) then I don't put much faith in what they are writing about."
Let's see if my fans have the guts to go here: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7 and tell them all that they're wrong.
Oh who am I kidding.... All three will get laughed off.
This synlube, which VOAs have shown to not even be its advertised weight, is not on BMW's list. Or VW, Toyota, Nissan, Ford, Mercedes, GM, Ferarri, Chrysler, Honda, Holden, Jaguar, etc...
Even selling that liquid garbage at $32per, he couldn't afford the testing fees.
It isn't even on API's list.
I see he *still* fails to prove his allegations
I asked some bimmer guys about his comments:
"it's unreadable so I stopped after the first few sentences."
And the next comment:
"As are a lot of Internet diatribes. Seems that grammar and spelling are becoming a lost art. If the poster cannot construct a sentence and at least come close to properly spelling a word (nobody's perfect, so I make some allowances here, like seeing what keys on the keyboard are immediately next to the correct letter) then I don't put much faith in what they are writing about."
Let's see if my fans have the guts to go here: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7 and tell them all that they're wrong.
Oh who am I kidding.... All three will get laughed off.
And to show even further that they have no clue:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...wflat&Number=1196764
Speaks for itself.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...wflat&Number=1196764
Speaks for itself.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
And to show even further that they have no clue:
Speaks for itself.
You mean like this....
http://www.autohausaz.com/bmw-...mw-oil-pressure.html
http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/...6-m3-engine-oil.html
http://forums.bimmerforums.com...owthread.php?t=41116
Hey Trajan...........Looks like you didn't use.........MFG APPROVED OIL...
Here is a Quote regarding the correct-'MFG APPROVED OIL'..........(What you didn't use.).....OOPS!
"I just picked up my car last week (production dated 6/2002). The owner's manual, and everywhere else oil is discussed, states that 10w-60 should be used. I can't find this(OIL) anywhere!"
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...wflat&Number=1682005
THAT'S RIGHT...NEVER SECOND GUESS THE MFG..........."THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING"........
http://www.m5board.com/vbullet...-noise-thoughts.html
I guess that takes Synlube out of the mix too.
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quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:
I guess that takes Synlube out of the mix too.
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GUESS AGAIN..........
I won't waste my time. 
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Poor Trajan. Boo hoo. So sad. How childish and immature you are.
Trajan wants us to go to some beamer site.
Show them a link to here and they will see what a goof and liar you are.
We can show them threads that will show them how you treat and detest women.
A link to that car belonging to a neighbour with the sludge engine from using Synlube.
How old are you?
You had better run along now, or you'll be late for kindergarten.
Well?
Trajan wants us to go to some beamer site.
Show them a link to here and they will see what a goof and liar you are.
We can show them threads that will show them how you treat and detest women.
A link to that car belonging to a neighbour with the sludge engine from using Synlube.
How old are you?
You had better run along now, or you'll be late for kindergarten.
Well?
quote:inHaliburton
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Beats me how those who have no experience with a product can argue with those who have.
Ironic how that comes in handy now. So the big question is.... Will he apply it to himself, miro, kirk? Being that none of them have experience with the M54 engine..... Knowing how he feels about that?
Nah, too much to expect of a hypocrit.
Oh, how the mechanics at both the dealer and the place I deal with laughed it up when I pointed out this thread.....
And when they read about Yugos and synlube..... brought the house down.
Now, tell us all, Trajan, what personal experience have you had with a product that you have had no experience with, namely Synlube? Does that hold true for you, or just we non-beamers?
I suggest that if you were to use Synlube, that smoker if yours may just stop burning up oil.
And you would not have the need to use ARX to clean up that engine, too.
Seriously, think about it.
I suggest that if you were to use Synlube, that smoker if yours may just stop burning up oil.
And you would not have the need to use ARX to clean up that engine, too.
Seriously, think about it.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Oh, how the mechanics at both the dealer and the place I deal with laughed it up when I pointed out this thread.....
And when they read about Yugos and synlube..... brought the house down.
Your insecurity and naiveté come shining through. Had to casually drop by the Beamership for reassurance. That must have been a knee slapper all right. We all wish that we could have been there to share.
Recess is over. Better run along now, or you will be late for cookies and juice.
quote:Ahhhhhh. Thanks. I was thinking the top of the crown.
That indeed is the "crowning" statement that in so few words explains it all !!!
And do not forget to spike the oil with PEP !!!
That is REALLY what all the mechanics were laughing about ..........
Trajan quoted.
Mazda rotary engines spray oil into the chamber as well, and yet, he, or the other stooges, have nothing to say about it. But I digress.....
BK. quoted...
The mazda is different than yours. Piston engines spray(oil) the bottom of the piston crown,not the combustion chamber.
Trajan Quoted.....
[QUOTE ]Ahhhhhh. Thanks. I was thinking the top of the crown.[/QUOTE]
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I cannot believe that someone(Trajan),even after having been on these oil sites for many years now... actually thought that a 4-stroke gasoline powered piston engine......sprayed oil into the combustion chamber onto the piston crown for whatever reason. Like I said.......no mechanical aptitude whatsoever,and that statement really proves it!
///Hey Trajan....... gasoline is also injected into the crankcase.....to--(prevent sludge)....(LOL)///
When Trajan was talking about STOOGES . ........he was unwittingly referring to himself...
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Trajan quoted....
"Oh, how the mechanics at both the dealer and the place I deal with laughed it up when I pointed out this thread".....
Wow, TRAJAN..........I never go to any shops,because I never need to.......and now we find out you need not one,but TWO REPAIR SHOPS!!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF LEMON ARE YOU DRIVING??? No wonder the mechanics were laughing.................they saw it was pay-day again when you arrived and they were just overjoyed and couldn't stop laughing.......AGAIN!!!!!
Mazda rotary engines spray oil into the chamber as well, and yet, he, or the other stooges, have nothing to say about it. But I digress.....
BK. quoted...
The mazda is different than yours. Piston engines spray(oil) the bottom of the piston crown,not the combustion chamber.
Trajan Quoted.....
[QUOTE ]Ahhhhhh. Thanks. I was thinking the top of the crown.[/QUOTE]
quote:Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
That indeed is the "crowning" statement that in [b]so few words explains it all !!!
And do not forget to spike the oil with PEP !!!
That is REALLY what all the mechanics were laughing about ..........
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I cannot believe that someone(Trajan),even after having been on these oil sites for many years now... actually thought that a 4-stroke gasoline powered piston engine......sprayed oil into the combustion chamber onto the piston crown for whatever reason. Like I said.......no mechanical aptitude whatsoever,and that statement really proves it!
///Hey Trajan....... gasoline is also injected into the crankcase.....to--(prevent sludge)....(LOL)///
When Trajan was talking about STOOGES . ........he was unwittingly referring to himself...
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Trajan quoted....
"Oh, how the mechanics at both the dealer and the place I deal with laughed it up when I pointed out this thread".....
Wow, TRAJAN..........I never go to any shops,because I never need to.......and now we find out you need not one,but TWO REPAIR SHOPS!!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF LEMON ARE YOU DRIVING??? No wonder the mechanics were laughing.................they saw it was pay-day again when you arrived and they were just overjoyed and couldn't stop laughing.......AGAIN!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by BLK98MK8LSC:
Regulations on VOC emissions here have made crankcase ventilation systems very effective moisture traps. CAFE standards are pushing manufacturers to spec lighter oils than they would otherwise use,even if only slightly. Non of these are deal breakers when all you have to do is change your oil to fix it. Forcing 100000 mile catalytic converter life at the expense of safe reliable engine wear protection and sabotaging older engines with mechanical valve trains is a piss poor use of government power,however well intentioned. The engineering responses to regulation are as varied as can be,some are successful,some not. BMW is not immune to this. The crank case ventilation system on some models can fail in very cold weather and suck all the crankcase oil into the intake manifold and cause engine destruction. Not the oils fault unless you count water trapped in it. When the water freezes the valve fails. These may be the failures your referring to.
All of the reasons stated is why it is ever more important to use the absolute best synthetics available,with the lowest Noack VOLATILITY NUMBERS....like SYNLUBE!
Many of the lubes,group III included,are still much to volatile.... almost 15%,and they simply burn off too much!
When these low quality lubes vaporize,not all of the vapors are burned off in the engine,like some would believe.
A portion of the vapors will precipitate out,especially when the engine is shut off,basically fogging the inside of the engine/emission components with oil and moisture,causing a sort of 'milkshake',that eventually chokes the engine to death in many cases!
This condition of 'fogging' occurs worse during the very hot summer seasons that cook off even more of the volatile oils into vapors,followed with fogging down a nice layer of oil,that the colder/damper winters eventually finish off with added moisture....creating the deadly milkshake syndrome,and then eventual engine death in some cases!
The engine,and emission systems are all clogged up and can't breathe,creating a vicious cycle that kills the engine!
NO AMOUNT OF 'ENGINE-FLUSHES' will fix.... the now clogged up emission ventilation system,the damage is done,and oil system flushes will not effect that system!!
By using a very low volatile,and high quality synthetic oil,this deadly cycle will never begin in the first place!
Remember,most of the sludge monsters(sludge lawsuits) occurred in the Northern,colder states.
Cars will also have sludge/varnish/coking,etc, in hot climates,so high quality synthetic is needed for sure in the heat!
quote:Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
Wow, TRAJAN..........I never go to any shops,because I never need to.......and now we find out you need not one,but TWO REPAIR SHOPS!!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF LEMON ARE YOU DRIVING??? No wonder the mechanics were laughing.................they saw it was pay-day again when you arrived and they were just overjoyed and couldn't stop laughing.......AGAIN!!!!!
Good catch, Kirk.
Those crack Beamership(s) service sales guys likely put him into an endless loop ARX cleaning cycle!
What a hoot!
This crap has to stop.
You three want to attack me becaue I use the proper oil, fine.
You want to attack me becaue of a 1qt/6000 mile oil consumption, fine.
The people who design and build these engines don't have a problem with it.
The people who own these cars don't have a probelm with it.
The people who work on them don't have a problem with it.
No one, except you three, have a problem with it. Any of it.
Seperately, each of them have a wealth of experience you can't hope to match.
Together, it's so far ahead of yours that it you couldn't see it even using Hubble.
So, have at it, attack all you want. Whatever helps your collective inferiority complex, but you have neither the experience to bear listening to, or even a coherent position to come from. All you have is attacks. Poor ones at that.
My last post in this thread. Hopefully.
You want to attack me becaue of a 1qt/6000 mile oil consumption, fine.
The people who design and build these engines don't have a problem with it.
The people who own these cars don't have a probelm with it.
The people who work on them don't have a problem with it.
No one, except you three, have a problem with it. Any of it.
Seperately, each of them have a wealth of experience you can't hope to match.
Together, it's so far ahead of yours that it you couldn't see it even using Hubble.
So, have at it, attack all you want. Whatever helps your collective inferiority complex, but you have neither the experience to bear listening to, or even a coherent position to come from. All you have is attacks. Poor ones at that.
My last post in this thread. Hopefully.
Correction none of us have a problem with "it" as we do not own BMW, and nor do 82% of people who drive them, they know better they just LEASE BMW and the next one and next one.... NO worries NO concerns NO problems just making the $600 to $900 a month payments FOREVER……..
The few BMW "owners that get stuck with the second hand cars are those I truly feel sorry for!!!
Have you ever seen any BMW owner on any thread with one or two year car being concerned about anything? NO
They get FREE maintenance and then they just get another one 3 years later - that is the TRUE BMW ownership profile - and those guys and few women could not care less about jet sprays or oil consumption or anything else.
Still 5,000 or even 3,000 miles to a quart when the "typical" BMW is only serviced every 16,500 miles (national average according to BMW themselves) that may be bit too close to comfort on engine with 4.2 Liters of oil (well few have 7) - by simple math there is almost NO oil when the service indicator is on.
And some women do not think they need service until the RED OIL light is ON.
I actually know of one that did just that - one think I have to give credit to MW engine design is that the car still runs - but may be that is what is eating the connecting rod bearings, rather than "strange" combination of contamination and less than acceptable tolerances - that show up 25,000 to 30,000 miles AFTER the car was driven.
Does not BMW check any tolerance when the build the engine?
May be it is just running LOW and OUT of oil that is the real problem, which they just do NOT want to admit to.
Personally I have never seen or heard of engine that would run just fine and then 20,000 + miles latter would fail due to "contamination" during assembly!!!
That is about as believable as spraying oil on top of the piston crown, but of course some people did just that!!!
The few BMW "owners that get stuck with the second hand cars are those I truly feel sorry for!!!
Have you ever seen any BMW owner on any thread with one or two year car being concerned about anything? NO
They get FREE maintenance and then they just get another one 3 years later - that is the TRUE BMW ownership profile - and those guys and few women could not care less about jet sprays or oil consumption or anything else.
Still 5,000 or even 3,000 miles to a quart when the "typical" BMW is only serviced every 16,500 miles (national average according to BMW themselves) that may be bit too close to comfort on engine with 4.2 Liters of oil (well few have 7) - by simple math there is almost NO oil when the service indicator is on.
And some women do not think they need service until the RED OIL light is ON.
I actually know of one that did just that - one think I have to give credit to MW engine design is that the car still runs - but may be that is what is eating the connecting rod bearings, rather than "strange" combination of contamination and less than acceptable tolerances - that show up 25,000 to 30,000 miles AFTER the car was driven.
Does not BMW check any tolerance when the build the engine?
May be it is just running LOW and OUT of oil that is the real problem, which they just do NOT want to admit to.
Personally I have never seen or heard of engine that would run just fine and then 20,000 + miles latter would fail due to "contamination" during assembly!!!
That is about as believable as spraying oil on top of the piston crown, but of course some people did just that!!!
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER REASON WHY I USE SYNLUBE..........SO I DON'T GET SCAMMED BY THOSE OIL CHANGE SHOPS!!!!!!
HOW IRONIC THIS MUST BE TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS! I'M THE ONE WHO IS 'NOT'........GETTING SCAMMED....AND THE OTHER MOTORISTS ARE THE ONES WHO, ARE GETTING SCAMMED.
TALK ABOUT IRONY!!!
http://www.carsdirect.com/car-...mon-oil-change-scams
HOW IRONIC THIS MUST BE TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS! I'M THE ONE WHO IS 'NOT'........GETTING SCAMMED....AND THE OTHER MOTORISTS ARE THE ONES WHO, ARE GETTING SCAMMED.
TALK ABOUT IRONY!!!
http://www.carsdirect.com/car-...mon-oil-change-scams