The last couple days have to me the most interesting posts I have honestly seen about synlube.
Houckster I would love to see the results from any testing by Terry.
Allen did you just get booted off BITOG? Your oil filter rig sounded interesting, I can bring my camera.
Read our primer articles on High Mileage Oil, Synthetic Oil and Kinematic Viscosity
I will submit my samples after I return from Michigan at the end of September.
quote:Originally posted by Taterandnoodles:
The last couple days have to me the most interesting posts I have honestly seen about synlube.
Houckster I would love to see the results from any testing by Terry.
Allen did you just get booted off BITOG? Your oil filter rig sounded interesting, I can bring my camera.
Yeah, Synlube sounds like some very interesting stuff.
No, I didn't get booted off of BITOG. I asked Helen to kill my profile. I'd had my fill of the derision and slanderous PMs people were sending around about me.
I'm still going to read BITOG threads, but I have no intention of ever contributing to BITOG again.
I was treated as if I were a buffoon, and there really is no reason for it.
Allen
Most of the BITOG users love to tell about how they but bought some oil at $1.25 and had a wonderful UOA. Anyone who proposes anything different or who somehow doesn't fit the BITOG mold will get treated rather rudely. I was.
I'm sure there are a few thoughtful individuals there but there are far more trolls. Consequently, BITOG is not worth my time.
I'm sure there are a few thoughtful individuals there but there are far more trolls. Consequently, BITOG is not worth my time.
quote:Originally posted by Houckster:
Most of the BITOG users love to tell about how they but bought some oil at $1.25 and had a wonderful UOA. Anyone who proposes anything different or who somehow doesn't fit the BITOG mold will get treated rather rudely. I was.
I'm sure there are a few thoughtful individuals there but there are far more trolls. Consequently, BITOG is not worth my time.
I agree 100%.
quote:Slick 50 contains PTFE same as Synlube
You cannot compare the version of PTFE use in SynLube with that in Slick 50. They are entirely different. The PTFE used in Slick 50 was never intended for use in a lubricant. nanoFlon is. It WILL NOT clog filters and oil passageways. I've been using it for five years.
BTW, my Michigan trip got torpedoed by Hurricane Ike so my next trip will be in October to Pennsylvania. I submit a sample of SynLube to Terry Dynson after that trip.
It is nice to know that there are now (according to my browser) 26 pages of discussion about SynLube.
We have also reached another "milestone" our official 2003 FORD Focus PZEV has just accumulated 70,000 miles on SynLube products (Motor Oil, Gear Oil, Power Steering, Brake Fluid and Coolant).
The oil filter has been chagned at 10,000 and 50,000 miles (MicroGlass)
Same Fluids - NO changes and average Moor Oil consumption of 6,232 miles per Quart of ADD OIL.
Now Compare that to other items that "should" last "forver" and they did not:
The AM/FM CD by Blaupunkt has been changed 3 times under warranty and now does not work properly (Should not Audio System Last the life of the car ?) - The estimate for not under warranty $790 replacement
Engine Mount Front Right ( No the power train warranty does not cover it, it is SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED !!! - $127.00 for the part and $450 labor estimate - we changet it ourselves in 15 minutes with just two had wrenches - while FORD dealer claimed the engine has to be "dropped" to replace it ! (Should engine mount not last life of the car ?)
And on and ON I can go, but here is a list:
IGNITION SWITCH - on day you could not unlick the steering column - a common problem I am told but not Warrantied.
FRONT RIGHT Shock absorber mounting rod worn out.
CLUTCH - almost $1,200 again NOT Warrantied a clutch worn out at 50,000 miles ? Well the drivers are experienced with 5 Speed and even in YUGO or KIA clutch lasts 2 to 3 times longer !!!
BRAKE PADS - ONE Pad worn to metal, the other 3 only 45% worn ! - ORIGINAL PADS at 68,000 miles that should prove that the drivers are "easy" on the car !!!
And about another 12 items that should not need to be changed on a NORMAL car !!!
So after 100 years FORD still can not design a trouble FREE car that would be as realible as YUGO.
Yet SynLube has no issues.
So most of the comments on this site do not take any automotive relity into consideration.
It is really accademic to discus UOA on a vehicle where the non lubricated parts FAIL due to poor desing and manufacture - the issue is will one fill of SynLube last LONGER than the vehile you put it in, and in 26 years of use the answer is IT WILL !!!
Miro Kefurt
SynLube, Inc.
We have also reached another "milestone" our official 2003 FORD Focus PZEV has just accumulated 70,000 miles on SynLube products (Motor Oil, Gear Oil, Power Steering, Brake Fluid and Coolant).
The oil filter has been chagned at 10,000 and 50,000 miles (MicroGlass)
Same Fluids - NO changes and average Moor Oil consumption of 6,232 miles per Quart of ADD OIL.
Now Compare that to other items that "should" last "forver" and they did not:
The AM/FM CD by Blaupunkt has been changed 3 times under warranty and now does not work properly (Should not Audio System Last the life of the car ?) - The estimate for not under warranty $790 replacement
Engine Mount Front Right ( No the power train warranty does not cover it, it is SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED !!! - $127.00 for the part and $450 labor estimate - we changet it ourselves in 15 minutes with just two had wrenches - while FORD dealer claimed the engine has to be "dropped" to replace it ! (Should engine mount not last life of the car ?)
And on and ON I can go, but here is a list:
IGNITION SWITCH - on day you could not unlick the steering column - a common problem I am told but not Warrantied.
FRONT RIGHT Shock absorber mounting rod worn out.
CLUTCH - almost $1,200 again NOT Warrantied a clutch worn out at 50,000 miles ? Well the drivers are experienced with 5 Speed and even in YUGO or KIA clutch lasts 2 to 3 times longer !!!
BRAKE PADS - ONE Pad worn to metal, the other 3 only 45% worn ! - ORIGINAL PADS at 68,000 miles that should prove that the drivers are "easy" on the car !!!
And about another 12 items that should not need to be changed on a NORMAL car !!!
So after 100 years FORD still can not design a trouble FREE car that would be as realible as YUGO.
Yet SynLube has no issues.
So most of the comments on this site do not take any automotive relity into consideration.
It is really accademic to discus UOA on a vehicle where the non lubricated parts FAIL due to poor desing and manufacture - the issue is will one fill of SynLube last LONGER than the vehile you put it in, and in 26 years of use the answer is IT WILL !!!
Miro Kefurt
SynLube, Inc.
Sorry about the few mis-types, I am used to using auto spell check word plug-in, which on this site apparently does not work.
And once you click the post now it can not be corrected.
Miro
And once you click the post now it can not be corrected.
Miro
Hi Miro,
I'm on my second and LAST Ford Focus. I owned a 2000 and now a 2005 model year. Lots of silly but expensive repairs to the 2000. The alternator failed recently on the 2005 to the tune of $750 to have it replaced. Robbery! The front rotors were replaced because of vibrations/warpage. They are warped once again. I'm fed up with North American junk.
I'm on my second and LAST Ford Focus. I owned a 2000 and now a 2005 model year. Lots of silly but expensive repairs to the 2000. The alternator failed recently on the 2005 to the tune of $750 to have it replaced. Robbery! The front rotors were replaced because of vibrations/warpage. They are warped once again. I'm fed up with North American junk.
Exactly my point!
All that UOA fanatics do not seem to comprehend that modern cars are designed to have a very finite life time, so when the Motor Oil (SynLube) outlasts the rest of the vehicle - i.e. parts that should NOT wear out - the discussion about what is or is not floating in the oil is purely academic.
Reason why SynLube has been both Trademarked and labeled as Lube-4-Life® since 1996, is because it lasts as long as (or longer) than the "EPA or CARB Certified Useful Life" and in case people are not familiar with the certifications that is 7 years or 70,000 miles for most vehicles except for the few that are "PZEV" in which case that is 15 years or 150,000 miles !
The 2003 FORD Focus PZEV is the car that "should last 15 years" of course such certification only applies to the emissions - both exhaust and evaporative.
So if Ignition locks, Brakes, Clutches, Engine Mounts and Aternators fail much sooner, the FORD's attitude is SO WAHT - it must be your fault and guess what it is NOT covered by the VERY "limited powertrain" or "emission performance" warranty so you have to PAY big time for repairs.
And people are surprised that GM and FORD and now also Chrysler are basically bankrupt.
We have thousands of customers that had various Chrysler products (Mostly Durango and Dakota) that after 4 or 5 year experience with them, and initial desire to keep them "forever" no longer have them and will NEVER EVER buy another Chrysler product at any price.
The hundred or so people who had Cadillacs with Northstar engines - will NEVER EVER buy another Cadillac and will think trice before they get another GM vehicle PERIOD. Only one of those cars still runs with 125,000 miles on odo the rest failed seriously before 80,000 miles and of course after any extended warranty they have bought for thousands of dollars extra either expired or not covered the defect/problem.
And no not s single one blames SynLube for their problems, fortunately they ALL understand it is just plain poor design and faulty workmanship, after all thousands on Northstar owners had same or worse problems at even lower mileages.
Just run Internet search !
Same is case with the famous TOYOTA Sludge.....
Well no manufacturer is PERFECT these days, as no one ever had a business model to keep the cars "on the road" on the road, the success and failure in Auto Business anywhere in the world is measured by how many cars you have sold in last 10 days, short of that nothing else matters any more, definitely not to CEO's that get paid millions of dollars in salary and even more in bonuses, because the $2 billion loss in last quarter was not as bad as they expected !
Hey I think I deserve $1 billion bonus, as our company is actually making a profit (OH I forgot "profit" is now a "dirty word" in USA - I remember when that was actually Illegal in Soviet Union !!)
Syn-cerely
SynLube, Inc.
Miro Kefurt
CEO
All that UOA fanatics do not seem to comprehend that modern cars are designed to have a very finite life time, so when the Motor Oil (SynLube) outlasts the rest of the vehicle - i.e. parts that should NOT wear out - the discussion about what is or is not floating in the oil is purely academic.
Reason why SynLube has been both Trademarked and labeled as Lube-4-Life® since 1996, is because it lasts as long as (or longer) than the "EPA or CARB Certified Useful Life" and in case people are not familiar with the certifications that is 7 years or 70,000 miles for most vehicles except for the few that are "PZEV" in which case that is 15 years or 150,000 miles !
The 2003 FORD Focus PZEV is the car that "should last 15 years" of course such certification only applies to the emissions - both exhaust and evaporative.
So if Ignition locks, Brakes, Clutches, Engine Mounts and Aternators fail much sooner, the FORD's attitude is SO WAHT - it must be your fault and guess what it is NOT covered by the VERY "limited powertrain" or "emission performance" warranty so you have to PAY big time for repairs.
And people are surprised that GM and FORD and now also Chrysler are basically bankrupt.
We have thousands of customers that had various Chrysler products (Mostly Durango and Dakota) that after 4 or 5 year experience with them, and initial desire to keep them "forever" no longer have them and will NEVER EVER buy another Chrysler product at any price.
The hundred or so people who had Cadillacs with Northstar engines - will NEVER EVER buy another Cadillac and will think trice before they get another GM vehicle PERIOD. Only one of those cars still runs with 125,000 miles on odo the rest failed seriously before 80,000 miles and of course after any extended warranty they have bought for thousands of dollars extra either expired or not covered the defect/problem.
And no not s single one blames SynLube for their problems, fortunately they ALL understand it is just plain poor design and faulty workmanship, after all thousands on Northstar owners had same or worse problems at even lower mileages.
Just run Internet search !
Same is case with the famous TOYOTA Sludge.....
Well no manufacturer is PERFECT these days, as no one ever had a business model to keep the cars "on the road" on the road, the success and failure in Auto Business anywhere in the world is measured by how many cars you have sold in last 10 days, short of that nothing else matters any more, definitely not to CEO's that get paid millions of dollars in salary and even more in bonuses, because the $2 billion loss in last quarter was not as bad as they expected !
Hey I think I deserve $1 billion bonus, as our company is actually making a profit (OH I forgot "profit" is now a "dirty word" in USA - I remember when that was actually Illegal in Soviet Union !!)
Syn-cerely
SynLube, Inc.
Miro Kefurt
CEO
I think there's a new marketing slogan in there -
"SynLube Lube-4-Life; Good enough for your crappy car!"
"SynLube Lube-4-Life; Good enough for your crappy car!"
SynLube is more than good enough for any car. And I don't agree that all US cars are crappy. I've had only one issue with my Ranger in nearly five years of ownership.
One of the major problems that dealerships across the country are facing is that they no longer derive the income from warranty service they once did due to the general improvement in the quality of cars out there now. Ford dealerships are a case in point.
One of the major problems that dealerships across the country are facing is that they no longer derive the income from warranty service they once did due to the general improvement in the quality of cars out there now. Ford dealerships are a case in point.
I agree, there's no sense in only targeting the crappy car market.
How about:
"SynLube Lube-4-Life ; Because your car won't last long enough for it to matter."
How about:
"SynLube Lube-4-Life ; Because your car won't last long enough for it to matter."
jpr,
I like this one better:
"SynLube Lube-4-Life; Because your North American-built car won't last long enough for it to matter."
I like this one better:
"SynLube Lube-4-Life; Because your North American-built car won't last long enough for it to matter."
Nice!
How about -
"SynLube Lube-4-Life; Why not, it's a Ford"
How about -
"SynLube Lube-4-Life; Why not, it's a Ford"
"Synlube-4-Life. Your vehicles life may end sooner than you think".
"SynLube Lube-4-Life; Do you feel lucky, punk?"
"SynLube Lube-4-Life
Schrödinger's Oil: No UOA, No Problem"
Schrödinger's Oil: No UOA, No Problem"
I'm considering buying Synlube simply out of spite.
"SynLube Lube-4-Life ;
The Curmudgeon's Choice"
The Curmudgeon's Choice"
...and after 500 posts, 26+ pages, and the bantering back and forth, the jury's still out on this product...
Will it ever be fully explained, identified, or known to the modern man as the miracle lubricant of the 20th century???
I love oil, but just not this one.
Will it ever be fully explained, identified, or known to the modern man as the miracle lubricant of the 20th century???
I love oil, but just not this one.
Will it ever be fully explained, identified, or known to the modern man as the miracle lubricant of the 20th century???
The answer to this question, is most probably; "NO".
Even if it was, there will still be many reasons for most people, to not use this oil.
Speaking for myself; this is the best oil I have ever used.
I am satisfied with it, and the small difference, it is making to my engines performance.
That's the reason why I use it.
I would never go back to use ordinary oil.
If I get a sudden urge to change oil, I simply do it on one of my friends cars.
I like oil, too
The answer to this question, is most probably; "NO".
Even if it was, there will still be many reasons for most people, to not use this oil.
Speaking for myself; this is the best oil I have ever used.
I am satisfied with it, and the small difference, it is making to my engines performance.
That's the reason why I use it.
I would never go back to use ordinary oil.
If I get a sudden urge to change oil, I simply do it on one of my friends cars.
I like oil, too
Just stop it!
quote:Originally posted by Otto34:
Just stop it!
Why don't you just carry your nay-saying butt back to BITOG where you're welcome.
I began using Amsoil back in 1994, way before synthetic motor oil was a mainstream product.
People told me I was crazy and stupid for believing that synthetic oil was any better than mineral oil. Look at the synthetic oil industry now.
Now I'm checking out Synlube for the same reasons I looked at Amsoil back then.
If people tell me that I'm stupid and crazy for believing that oil technology may have evolved yet again, then I'm very inclined to move forward with Synlube. I'm not ruled by fear and doubt. I'm very curious about many things in this world, and fear does not prevent me from exploring technologies. Enjoy your Pennzoil Platinum, suckers.
People told me I was crazy and stupid for believing that synthetic oil was any better than mineral oil. Look at the synthetic oil industry now.
Now I'm checking out Synlube for the same reasons I looked at Amsoil back then.
If people tell me that I'm stupid and crazy for believing that oil technology may have evolved yet again, then I'm very inclined to move forward with Synlube. I'm not ruled by fear and doubt. I'm very curious about many things in this world, and fear does not prevent me from exploring technologies. Enjoy your Pennzoil Platinum, suckers.
And I'd be more than happy to provide a before and after UOA for all you cowards.
Hello All, after a long-long time journey about this lubricant, i'm still waiting the test result from Houckster, He promissed on September 2008 will provide the test result but untill today we cannot recieve this.
thanks,
enoch
thanks,
enoch
I have no excuse. I've been extremely lazy. I'm going to try and get the sample in later this week.
quote:Originally posted by Houckster:
I have no excuse. I've been extremely lazy. I'm going to try and get the sample in later this week.
Houckster,
Are you running the same batch of Synlube that you had when you first posted in this thread back in Sep 2004?
Yes, the oil was installed in January, 2004. The gas mileage and performance are still excellent.
I am going to submit the samples sometime in the next couple of days. I drove all of 83 miles in February and have all but gotten away from driving. That's part of the reason, I haven't submitted the samples before now.
I am going to submit the samples sometime in the next couple of days. I drove all of 83 miles in February and have all but gotten away from driving. That's part of the reason, I haven't submitted the samples before now.
In over 5 years of arguments about SynLube just about anyone who had any doubts, could have used it in their application, and by now would have had an undisputable result.
You can see it for yourself:
See SynLube on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gse25lO1uB8
Do you really think that FOX would go out of their way to promote a snake oil ?
The people who work in the news room actually used it for over 5 years before they were willing to produce an information spot on their CAR CONNECTION.
And the people show in it are actual customers, not hired actors.
But I am sure most of you will find someting extremely wrong with it anyway !
Miro Kefurt
www.synlube.com
You can see it for yourself:
See SynLube on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gse25lO1uB8
Do you really think that FOX would go out of their way to promote a snake oil ?
The people who work in the news room actually used it for over 5 years before they were willing to produce an information spot on their CAR CONNECTION.
And the people show in it are actual customers, not hired actors.
But I am sure most of you will find someting extremely wrong with it anyway !
Miro Kefurt
www.synlube.com
A Question of "value"
If you buy AMSOIL, Mobil 1, or what ever and try to return even unopened bottle for a refund, you will find that once you bought the product the respective company does not want it back even if you offer it to them FREE !!!
But perhaps you have missed the SynLube GUARANTEE, that is, you can return the USED SynLube any time for full REFUND or CREDIT for the volume returned.
I.e. USED SynLube has value, that is unchanged by use !
So you do not need to go "forver" without oil change, some racers change the SynLube after every race (deffinitelly not necessary).
With over 400 racing applications, about 390 of them keep the use of SynLube as a big secret, OK with US as they have PAID for it the full retail price.
At the same time they sport VALVOLINE, LUBRAX, CASTROL and AGIP stickers and get paid thousands for having them on their vehicle.
They of course could use the sponsors fluids for FREE, but they rather WIN and get the sponsors MONEY and buy more SynLube !!!
Point is that no one has ever got SynLube from us FREE, everyone paid the same price.
So that is also the answer to all those from this post web that are asking for FREE samples to "test".
And when refused argue that it is the proof that SynLube is not any good !!!
Test anything all you want, and when you are finished with it send it back for REFUND, what could be better ?
The reson we do not GIVE OUT FREE stuff is simply this: If you get anythig FREE it has NO value to you, and thus you have no problem with throwing it away.
If you know that you will get your $100 or more BACK, when you return it, you will attach value to the product and treat it appropriately and suddenly every ounce is worth a dollar !
If you buy AMSOIL, Mobil 1, or what ever and try to return even unopened bottle for a refund, you will find that once you bought the product the respective company does not want it back even if you offer it to them FREE !!!
But perhaps you have missed the SynLube GUARANTEE, that is, you can return the USED SynLube any time for full REFUND or CREDIT for the volume returned.
I.e. USED SynLube has value, that is unchanged by use !
So you do not need to go "forver" without oil change, some racers change the SynLube after every race (deffinitelly not necessary).
With over 400 racing applications, about 390 of them keep the use of SynLube as a big secret, OK with US as they have PAID for it the full retail price.
At the same time they sport VALVOLINE, LUBRAX, CASTROL and AGIP stickers and get paid thousands for having them on their vehicle.
They of course could use the sponsors fluids for FREE, but they rather WIN and get the sponsors MONEY and buy more SynLube !!!
Point is that no one has ever got SynLube from us FREE, everyone paid the same price.
So that is also the answer to all those from this post web that are asking for FREE samples to "test".
And when refused argue that it is the proof that SynLube is not any good !!!
Test anything all you want, and when you are finished with it send it back for REFUND, what could be better ?
The reson we do not GIVE OUT FREE stuff is simply this: If you get anythig FREE it has NO value to you, and thus you have no problem with throwing it away.
If you know that you will get your $100 or more BACK, when you return it, you will attach value to the product and treat it appropriately and suddenly every ounce is worth a dollar !
Hey Miro, there are too many people in this World with their hand out looking for discounts and freebees. A good product is worth paying for.
Regards, Paul.
in Haliburton, ON Canada...
Regards, Paul.
in Haliburton, ON Canada...
The last information we've get feedback from you in Feb 23, 2009, and know April 23, 2009. more than 4 weeks but still no test result.
To Miro..
i see the link you send to this forum, but still not get the result and technical explanation why we must use your lubricant. I see your face in this video..hmm...
enoch
To Miro..
i see the link you send to this forum, but still not get the result and technical explanation why we must use your lubricant. I see your face in this video..hmm...
enoch
quote:Originally posted by Houckster:
I have no excuse. I've been extremely lazy. I'm going to try and get the sample in later this week.
Hi, enocha.
I think you can find the technical explanation to why it is an advantage to use Synlube at www.synlube.com
I find it quite amusing that after several thousand people have been using Synlube, and find the product is supurb, someone is still saying that it doesn't work.
Even though you cannot find a single USER, that have any complaints about it.
The results from the two cars(one diesel and one petrol) I have it in, is great.
Engine more quiet, a small gain in MPG, reduced oil consumption(some 70%).
I think this product gives you the best value for money, if you take into accoult all the costs about oilchanges(oil, labour, using your time etc.).
I think you can find the technical explanation to why it is an advantage to use Synlube at www.synlube.com
I find it quite amusing that after several thousand people have been using Synlube, and find the product is supurb, someone is still saying that it doesn't work.
Even though you cannot find a single USER, that have any complaints about it.
The results from the two cars(one diesel and one petrol) I have it in, is great.
Engine more quiet, a small gain in MPG, reduced oil consumption(some 70%).
I think this product gives you the best value for money, if you take into accoult all the costs about oilchanges(oil, labour, using your time etc.).
You can see the results of OFFICIAL California SMOG TEST results on our web www.synlube.com just click on the link to "Another car goes 84,245 miles without oil changes!"
Just tested yesterday and emissions are so low as not to be measurable ! Actually cleaner than NEW car at 4,000 miles !!!
No way to fake it as in California the car is hooked up to computer when on dynamometer and all the test data gets electronically transmitted to DMV. The mechanic is subject to $25,000 fine and up to 5 years in jail, if it is not done properly !
DO YOU belive the results ?
The car just turned 125,000 today and the test was done 4.24.2009
Testing OIL really in the scheme of things has no real value, but testing the CAR and it's emissions prove that SynLube works.
It really does not matter at all what is floating in the motor oil or what chemicals are or are not in it, if the car runs, performs and has emissions lower than a BRAND NEW vehicle, and that is after 109,000 miles on SynLube WITHOUT any oil changes.
AMSOIL, ExxonMobil, CASTROL and SHELL (in all its products brands - SHELL, Pennzoil, Quaker State, etc.) can not even compare !!
As big as those companies are they do not have a SINGLE vehicle test where the FTP (the only test recognized by Automotive Industry, CARB and EPA) was done over the useful life of the vehicle !
NOT A SINGLE SUCH TEST by OEM or OIL CO since 1975 ! (Why NOT ?)
But we have done it under supervision of AAA and with car from FORD, however the people at FORD that started the test lost their Jobs due to cost cutting at FORD and totally abandoned the car with AAA when "new" Engineers (paid less than 1/2 the sallary of the "replaced" ones) took over.
Fact is that SynLube lasts longer than most people's jobs in Auto Industry and sometimes longer that the Company that made the car....
Just tested yesterday and emissions are so low as not to be measurable ! Actually cleaner than NEW car at 4,000 miles !!!
No way to fake it as in California the car is hooked up to computer when on dynamometer and all the test data gets electronically transmitted to DMV. The mechanic is subject to $25,000 fine and up to 5 years in jail, if it is not done properly !
DO YOU belive the results ?
The car just turned 125,000 today and the test was done 4.24.2009
Testing OIL really in the scheme of things has no real value, but testing the CAR and it's emissions prove that SynLube works.
It really does not matter at all what is floating in the motor oil or what chemicals are or are not in it, if the car runs, performs and has emissions lower than a BRAND NEW vehicle, and that is after 109,000 miles on SynLube WITHOUT any oil changes.
AMSOIL, ExxonMobil, CASTROL and SHELL (in all its products brands - SHELL, Pennzoil, Quaker State, etc.) can not even compare !!
As big as those companies are they do not have a SINGLE vehicle test where the FTP (the only test recognized by Automotive Industry, CARB and EPA) was done over the useful life of the vehicle !
NOT A SINGLE SUCH TEST by OEM or OIL CO since 1975 ! (Why NOT ?)
But we have done it under supervision of AAA and with car from FORD, however the people at FORD that started the test lost their Jobs due to cost cutting at FORD and totally abandoned the car with AAA when "new" Engineers (paid less than 1/2 the sallary of the "replaced" ones) took over.
Fact is that SynLube lasts longer than most people's jobs in Auto Industry and sometimes longer that the Company that made the car....
quote:As big as those companies are they do not have a SINGLE vehicle test where the FTP (the only test recognized by Automotive Industry, CARB and EPA) was done over the useful life of the vehicle !NOT A SINGLE SUCH TEST by OEM or OIL CO since 1975 ! (Why NOT ?)
Could it be that the oil companys have tested vehicles, like you have, but the results were not favourable, so the results were not reported? Na, that could not be. The oil companys would never do a thing like that. Or would they...
Actually world is a rather small place and there are only few EPA accredited Laboratories that can condust the FTP testing, all their operators know each other and are members of SAE.
I was just at SAE Convention in Detroit this week and talked with about seven different people of which 5 did already know that AAA run tests for us last year and actually asked me if we plan to run another test at 125,000 miles and 150,000 miles.
That is $7,500 to $9,000 a pop.
Since FORD does not care about any result on any car over 70,000 miles, and we just did California Required SMOG TEST which mostly shown ZERO for emission results, I'd rather save the $7,450 as the California test is only $50.00 as is required anyway to maintain California Registration.
In another 2 years it will be 150,000 on the car, and may be then we may run another FTP just to maintain the "We are the only one's who EVER done this".
But by then the Crown Vic will be worth about $1275 by kbb.com estimate.
So even than I may think twice about it, that glory will either add two more lines to our website, or alternatelly we juat may buy 1/2 of another NEW test car for the FTP test not done money....
Genrally when any automobile is 100% out of possesion of the company for which the test is done that costs $1.00 to $1.25 per mile at todays prices.
New Crown Vic is about $30,000 and about $90,000 would have to be spent for the vehicle operation and another $30,000 for the FTP testing at various mileages.
That is about $150,000 and takes several years.
Reason that BIG OIL does not do that is that every 3 to 5 years API and ILSAC comes out with NEW specs, so esentially by the time you finish the test, the OIL you have tested is obsolete and no longer produced, and in many cases the OEM also no longer makes the car as well.
So what is the point ?
You prove that the oil (no longer produced) used in the car (that is also no longer produced) worked.
With SynLube we can afford to do this since the Motor Oil Formula has been SAME since 1985 !!!
The Reason we used Crown Vic was because it is the most popular fleet car in the World !
(Taxi, Police, and in Lincoln and Mercury versions also for Livery use)
I was just at SAE Convention in Detroit this week and talked with about seven different people of which 5 did already know that AAA run tests for us last year and actually asked me if we plan to run another test at 125,000 miles and 150,000 miles.
That is $7,500 to $9,000 a pop.
Since FORD does not care about any result on any car over 70,000 miles, and we just did California Required SMOG TEST which mostly shown ZERO for emission results, I'd rather save the $7,450 as the California test is only $50.00 as is required anyway to maintain California Registration.
In another 2 years it will be 150,000 on the car, and may be then we may run another FTP just to maintain the "We are the only one's who EVER done this".
But by then the Crown Vic will be worth about $1275 by kbb.com estimate.
So even than I may think twice about it, that glory will either add two more lines to our website, or alternatelly we juat may buy 1/2 of another NEW test car for the FTP test not done money....
Genrally when any automobile is 100% out of possesion of the company for which the test is done that costs $1.00 to $1.25 per mile at todays prices.
New Crown Vic is about $30,000 and about $90,000 would have to be spent for the vehicle operation and another $30,000 for the FTP testing at various mileages.
That is about $150,000 and takes several years.
Reason that BIG OIL does not do that is that every 3 to 5 years API and ILSAC comes out with NEW specs, so esentially by the time you finish the test, the OIL you have tested is obsolete and no longer produced, and in many cases the OEM also no longer makes the car as well.
So what is the point ?
You prove that the oil (no longer produced) used in the car (that is also no longer produced) worked.
With SynLube we can afford to do this since the Motor Oil Formula has been SAME since 1985 !!!
The Reason we used Crown Vic was because it is the most popular fleet car in the World !
(Taxi, Police, and in Lincoln and Mercury versions also for Livery use)
Thanks for the explanation, Miro.
