It doesn't take 90 days as I am in the PADS database. But yeh I know...Said it as a joke.
That TBN that was verified has me thinking this is worse then we thought. Could SYNLUBE really be nothing but filtered used oil with some additives thrown in?? That VOA shows that oil as already depleted!!
Couldn't they have at least bought new, they would still make a tidy profit at $32 bucks a quart
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Couldn't they have at least bought new, they would still make a tidy profit at $32 bucks a quart
Why do that? Then the oil would be worth more than the bottle it's in.
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quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
It doesn't take 90 days as I am in the PADS database. But yeh I know...Said it as a joke.
That TBN that was verified has me thinking this is worse then we thought. Could SYNLUBE really be nothing but filtered used oil with some additives thrown in?? That VOA shows that oil as already depleted!!
Couldn't they have at least bought new, they would still make a tidy profit at $32 bucks a quart
Yeah, you would think they would at least buy Mobil 1 and add their secret elixer to it.
I guess when you are a con artist you want every last nickel you can swindle from the uninformed public.
quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
Count me in Miro: As I have access to DOE sites. Savannah River/South Carolina, WIPP/New Mexico, Oak Ridge/Tennessee. Along with those I have clearances through the FBI, and NRC.
Miro would have to be out of his mind to let this delusional fruitcake into his facility.
quote:Miro, it seems Terry Dyson did contact you.
If he did than he for sure did not reveal his name or purpose.
When we get a generic e-mail like "can I come and see you" or "can I stop by and "pick-up this or that"
We send out a generic answer that it is not possible, and I do not count those, but over the years there were few, but no Terry Dyson is on the list.
Further anyone even remotedly related to lubrication would be not allowed anyway as both the process and ingredients are part of the "proprietary knowledge" that by US Federal Judge was ruled to be "trade-secret", thus anyone "knowledgeable in the art" should not be granted access - again not my decision but decision of District court in San Francisco in 1996.
Since 1996 only 3 people asked me by phone and 2 by e-mail, so it is easy to keep track of, who wants to come for a visit.
And none had legitimate enough reason for DoE to grant access. (The 2 that did not send back a nasty message as a reply for the data needed to file a request).
We do not make the rules we just have to follow them, and somehow people do not seem to understand that.
Even the Silicon Valley investors that OWN SynLube are not allowed in. And they OWN the business - since they DO NOT OPERATE IT - they also are deemed as not having a valid reason to enter the facility.
Things were much less strict before 9/11 but since then every day is big reason to panic.
Even I was not allowed in at times, with no reason given to me why, or when I will be able to get back in.
But FREE use of building (big enough to park a cargo plane in) and Electric power (and we do use lot of it) at 3.38 cents per kW, makes it tollerable to put up with all the regulations.
In return we have 100% safety and 100% security and 0% to worry about - to me that is a good deal - especially since before we moved in we paid over $50,000 annually for "rent".
Not needing to make $50,000 NET before you are breaking even, makes a big difference in a "small" business.
And the daily transport from Las Vegas is included - really a great deal that is 3,000 miles of monthly driving I do not have to do !
If you do not have the proper paperwork you can not even get on the bus in Las Vegas, that is if you can even find out where and when to board it.
But mostly OUR Business is really NONE of your Business !!!
Facility? You mean his garage. Truth is if I were Miro I wouldn't want anyone knowing where I lived. That could be why a member posted about his dealing with Miro/Synlube was out of the trunk of a car. It might have been budman? I think that was mentioned on Bitog somewhere.
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quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:
Facility? You mean his garage. Truth is if I were Miro I wouldn't want anyone knowing where I lived. That could be why a member posted about his dealing with Miro/Synlube was out of the trunk of a car. It might have been budman? I think that was mentioned on Bitog somewhere.
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That was budman.
quote:Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
Even the Silicon Valley investors that OWN SynLube are not allowed in. And they OWN the business - since they DO NOT OPERATE IT - they also are deemed as not having a valid reason to enter the facility.
Things were much less strict before 9/11 but since then every day is big reason to panic.
Hey, there's some new info, for me at least.
quote:But FREE use of building (big enough to park a cargo plane in) and Electric power (and we do use lot of it) at 3.38 cents per kW, makes it tollerable to put up with all the regulations.
In return we have 100% safety and 100% security and 0% to worry about - to me that is a good deal - especially since before we moved in we paid over $50,000 annually for "rent".
Not needing to make $50,000 NET before you are breaking even, makes a big difference in a "small" business.
Call me crazy, but the above is a good business decision. Security is number 1. Low overhead is as important as number 1.
quote:And the daily transport from Las Vegas is included - really a great deal that is 3,000 miles of monthly driving I do not have to do !
If you do not have the proper paperwork you can not even get on the bus in Las Vegas, that is if you can even find out where and when to board it.
The above is security oriented, so number 1 again.
quote:But mostly OUR Business is really NONE of your Business !!!
I couldn't agree more.
quote:That was budman.
Again NOT TRUE - I have never met the man !!!
Everything he bought from SynLube was shipped to him by FedEx Ground.
But on the other hand we have 3 dealers in Las Vegas that sell SynLube.
I think for his MURANO he bought it from one of them.
quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:
Facility? You mean his garage. Truth is if I were Miro I wouldn't want anyone knowing where I lived. That could be why a member posted about his dealing with Miro/Synlube was out of the trunk of a car. It might have been budman? I think that was mentioned on Bitog somewhere.
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The explanation above regarding his contract with DOE explains the "out of the trunk" business transaction. I've been in that position dozens of times over the past 45 years. I'd be much poorer had I not.
Heck, I've even delivered product to my customers. Colour me bush league.
So why are we back to nonsense ?
Why can not any of you explain why results from TWO different labs on the same oil sample do not MATCH ?
After all it was done by Noria/BITOG member at his OWN expense !!!
Should that not be of a MAJOR concern ?
You wanted VOA - you got it, but now total silence about that ?
WHY ?
Because it proves what I have been claiming for years ?
Why can not any of you explain why results from TWO different labs on the same oil sample do not MATCH ?
After all it was done by Noria/BITOG member at his OWN expense !!!
Should that not be of a MAJOR concern ?
You wanted VOA - you got it, but now total silence about that ?
WHY ?
Because it proves what I have been claiming for years ?
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:quote:Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
I have noticed that budman on the other site under synlube UOA is doing a very nice job with pictures of his engine and inside valve cover proving that the synlube works in his saturn and other car..mazda?
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...umber=1842865&page=7
I do wish that some of these tests he mentions could be verified with actual scanned proof or internet links or something. Also verified documents of NASA/JPL using Synlube would also go a long way compared to hearsay. Or being able to show conclusively he is manufacturing his own product. But as his business, that is his problem.
And this gem: But I ended up having to meet someone in a parking lot who then sold it to me from his trunk. I remember at the time thinking, "ok, that was weird". I just spent $150 bucks and place didn't have a location I could go to.
5th post down kiddies.
quote:inHaliburton
Actually I am not even allowed to drive in a car, it has to be our "commercial van" to take the finished product out.
Shipping to customers is done elsewhere and FedEx picks up 2 times daily.
So definitely the "trunk" was not my trunk as all cars I drive are hatchbacks, or 2 seater sports cars with NO TRUNK ! (The engine is back there) or in case of X1/9 the electric motor driven A/C and SuperCharger is in the "back" trunk and batteries in the "front" trunk - it is sort of "hybrid" - the A/C works for 15 minutes when the car is parked and the SuperCharger gives it 5 to 15 PIS boost on demand - so realy I do not have a single vehicle with a "trunk".....or a boot !!!
So you couldn't have taken the stuff home with you and then delivered it? This story gets better by the minute.
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In Reality the NISSAN Test Facility in Arizona has even tougher security than we do, they even take your cell phone and ID (Driver License) away from you when you enter.
Only that way they seem to be sure you have left, when you do !!!
At least I can still use my cell and keep my walet....
Only that way they seem to be sure you have left, when you do !!!
At least I can still use my cell and keep my walet....
quote:So you couldn't have taken the stuff home with you and then delivered it? This story gets better by the minute.
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NO I definitely DO NOT DO THAT !
Neither have the time nor desire to do so !!!
So "budman" should clarify - but that is up to him because IF I do so myself on his behalf it of course will not be trusted !
quote:So why are we back to nonsense ?
Why can not any of you explain why results from TWO different labs on the same oil sample do not MATCH ?
After all it was done by Noria/BITOG member at his OWN expense !!!
Should that not be of a MAJOR concern ?
You wanted VOA - you got it, but now total silence about that ?
WHY ?
Because it proves what I have been claiming for years ?
ONE MORE TIME !!!
I'd like to get someone to explain that !!!
I thought you guys wanted to know about lubricants ? Should that not get more traction rather if SynLube was at one time in someone's (not mine) trunk ???
Budman
Registered: 08/04/02
Posts: 30
Loc: NV No, I have never seen an actual location. The first time I bought Synlube (for the Murano, probably around 2005) I blindly went in thinking I would come to their place and pick some up since they were local. But I ended up having to meet someone in a parking lot who then sold it to me from his trunk. I remember at the time thinking, "ok, that was weird". I just spent $150 bucks and place didn't have a location I could go to.
This second and third time I purchased they both were fedex'd to me as well as the ADD oil I ordered past Dec. One time I did ask for a UOA for my Murano and Miro said I could drop it off to the place that receives their mail, which is the 2961 Industrial Road address.
I just don't know what to think. Part of me says forget the red flags and keep it in engines on schedule. Cars run fine. Other part of me now wants to go dump it out this weekend in both cars.
Registered: 08/04/02
Posts: 30
Loc: NV No, I have never seen an actual location. The first time I bought Synlube (for the Murano, probably around 2005) I blindly went in thinking I would come to their place and pick some up since they were local. But I ended up having to meet someone in a parking lot who then sold it to me from his trunk. I remember at the time thinking, "ok, that was weird". I just spent $150 bucks and place didn't have a location I could go to.
This second and third time I purchased they both were fedex'd to me as well as the ADD oil I ordered past Dec. One time I did ask for a UOA for my Murano and Miro said I could drop it off to the place that receives their mail, which is the 2961 Industrial Road address.
I just don't know what to think. Part of me says forget the red flags and keep it in engines on schedule. Cars run fine. Other part of me now wants to go dump it out this weekend in both cars.
Ok then Miro.
Verifiable, direct to the reports links for the ftp/aaa tests you claim to pass.
You claim it, you back it up. No synlube shuffle or Texas two step.
We want to click on the link and read it. No searching for it. no kirk like cries of google it.
Failing that, maybe we'll take the scanned in reports that you should have in your records.
Maybe, given your track record.
Verifiable, direct to the reports links for the ftp/aaa tests you claim to pass.
You claim it, you back it up. No synlube shuffle or Texas two step.
We want to click on the link and read it. No searching for it. no kirk like cries of google it.
Failing that, maybe we'll take the scanned in reports that you should have in your records.
Maybe, given your track record.
How about, do you send customers oil that has seen service in a vehicle before.
Just a simple yes or no will sufice.
Just a simple yes or no will sufice.
This is used oil folks...That's whay there is no rhyme or reason to the results...Different vehicles are going to deplete the oil differently.
The TBN on this oil is almost depleated. So these con artists collect some oil from a place, of course different vehicles using somewhat the same viscosity oil will have different wear numbers. They thrown in some crappy additive....And like magic...WE have synlube.
The con is even worse then I thought...I guess now the question is....HOW LOW WILL SYNLUBE STOOP?... I feel that is a good title for a thread folks, We are getting the information in from folks on the VOA's.
We now need to alert the public as to the scam being perpetrated by this low budget outfit called synlube!!!!!
The TBN on this oil is almost depleated. So these con artists collect some oil from a place, of course different vehicles using somewhat the same viscosity oil will have different wear numbers. They thrown in some crappy additive....And like magic...WE have synlube.
The con is even worse then I thought...I guess now the question is....HOW LOW WILL SYNLUBE STOOP?... I feel that is a good title for a thread folks, We are getting the information in from folks on the VOA's.
We now need to alert the public as to the scam being perpetrated by this low budget outfit called synlube!!!!!
Folks: I cannot recall a company, I am aware of, that has a lower, or more shady reputation then Synlube.
The one good thing that is coming out of the threads, is that Synlube has been completely exposed. They are so cheap, as to filter used oil, and dump some crap in it, and then make these out and out lies, as to it's durability.
The hoax HAS BEEN exposed. The worst of the damage, is being done by Miro and his minions, though they are more then likely, one and the same person.
Miro, if someone makes a product and market's it...No problem this is America, a capitalistic society. But when the product is a fraud 'USED OIL' and the perpatrator of the fraud, in turn attacks the folks, who question claims that don't add up.
Well folks Synlube is reaching a new low...I for one will not let this fraud go, without making the truth available for all...SYNLUBE IS USED OIL!!!!!SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!
The one good thing that is coming out of the threads, is that Synlube has been completely exposed. They are so cheap, as to filter used oil, and dump some crap in it, and then make these out and out lies, as to it's durability.
The hoax HAS BEEN exposed. The worst of the damage, is being done by Miro and his minions, though they are more then likely, one and the same person.
Miro, if someone makes a product and market's it...No problem this is America, a capitalistic society. But when the product is a fraud 'USED OIL' and the perpatrator of the fraud, in turn attacks the folks, who question claims that don't add up.
Well folks Synlube is reaching a new low...I for one will not let this fraud go, without making the truth available for all...SYNLUBE IS USED OIL!!!!!SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!
The only business I know, who sell stuff out a trunk make quite lots of money and put you in jail for a long long time.
Do you realize what you are saying? Let me summarize some of your claim.
-All the labs in the USA are bad and yours is better,
- Your oil is so good we can drink it safely,
-You know better then all the engineer, mechanics, oil industry, metal worker, of all America.
-You are immune to credit card fraud, the only shop in the world immune to it actually!
-You make your product in a facility that needs a high security clearance to just access it; still you talk about it openly all over internet. Did your split personality with kirk came from area 51 as well?
-You meet your customer in a parking lot to sell your product, and use anonym PO box to ship your product.
-You are friend with Bill Gate and he use synlube in is Lamborghini , but all the magazine say he own only porches and a stretched limo corvette , you beat even then the paparazzi!
-It’s impossible to find part for a vehicle after 5 year and most of them won’t be able to last that long anyway since any vehicle with 100k or more is a junk .
-Doctor who is stock in 1952 since he used synlube in the Tardis.
-Marty is stock in 1955 since he fried is flux capacitor causes he could not reach 88 miles, the engine seize ,Doc later said I should never have trust that sylube guy in the parking lot.
Do you realize what you are saying? Let me summarize some of your claim.
-All the labs in the USA are bad and yours is better,
- Your oil is so good we can drink it safely,
-You know better then all the engineer, mechanics, oil industry, metal worker, of all America.
-You are immune to credit card fraud, the only shop in the world immune to it actually!
-You make your product in a facility that needs a high security clearance to just access it; still you talk about it openly all over internet. Did your split personality with kirk came from area 51 as well?
-You meet your customer in a parking lot to sell your product, and use anonym PO box to ship your product.
-You are friend with Bill Gate and he use synlube in is Lamborghini , but all the magazine say he own only porches and a stretched limo corvette , you beat even then the paparazzi!
-It’s impossible to find part for a vehicle after 5 year and most of them won’t be able to last that long anyway since any vehicle with 100k or more is a junk .
-Doctor who is stock in 1952 since he used synlube in the Tardis.
-Marty is stock in 1955 since he fried is flux capacitor causes he could not reach 88 miles, the engine seize ,Doc later said I should never have trust that sylube guy in the parking lot.
Hes just a commom flim flam man and thats all he will ever be. You have to give him credit, he is as brazen as they come. Hes like the Grinch, when any doubt should arise he will think up a lie and think it up quick. He is commited to this scam. I believe he has told these stories for so long, he actually believes them now. (sad)
Some of these other syncrap groupies could actually be his accomplicies. I guess you don't need very many people to man a small scale scam operation such as this one.
Some of these other syncrap groupies could actually be his accomplicies. I guess you don't need very many people to man a small scale scam operation such as this one.
Enough Rif Raf
Explain why SAME sample from SAME bottle gets two different results from two different labs ?
If you are into OIL - explain !
All the noise from same person anonymous but under different screen names, just won't cut it with posts minutes apart !
Just got e-mail from budman, yes he submitted the Used SynLube Sample, but NO Virgin Oil.
He also did not publish any "comparison"
Both his cars have SynLube in them, no problems no complaints - ask him DIRECT !!!
Explain why SAME sample from SAME bottle gets two different results from two different labs ?
If you are into OIL - explain !
All the noise from same person anonymous but under different screen names, just won't cut it with posts minutes apart !
Just got e-mail from budman, yes he submitted the Used SynLube Sample, but NO Virgin Oil.
He also did not publish any "comparison"
Both his cars have SynLube in them, no problems no complaints - ask him DIRECT !!!
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Ok then Miro.
Verifiable, direct to the reports links for the ftp/aaa tests you claim to pass.
You claim it, you back it up. No synlube shuffle or Texas two step.
We want to click on the link and read it. No searching for it. no kirk like cries of google it.
Failing that, maybe we'll take the scanned in reports that you should have in your records.
Maybe, given your track record.
well?
And of course you can prove your paranoid allegation of one user with multi screen names.
You do know what proof is, right?
I know, I know, you can't accept the fact that people don't like this juice you push.
So tell us about the three people you actually conned into buying this swill and putting it in their cars.
Has anyone used Synlube oil in their car?
Terry
Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3845
Loc: Greenville , Texas zoomzoom, I have proprietary data for Synlube motor oils,provided by synlube that can be used for comparison and correlation for you when you begin using it.
I am not allowed to share that publicly but it enables me to get a good baseline for your UOA's interpretations.
If you guys think Redline is hard to "read" you ought to see this stuff in a UOA, like RL on steroids !
The PTFE and Graphite are adds that I question in the formulations.
I do like the POE bases used.
Miro, it sure seems like you have some kind of affiliation with Terry Dyson
Terry
Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3845
Loc: Greenville , Texas zoomzoom, I have proprietary data for Synlube motor oils,provided by synlube that can be used for comparison and correlation for you when you begin using it.
I am not allowed to share that publicly but it enables me to get a good baseline for your UOA's interpretations.
If you guys think Redline is hard to "read" you ought to see this stuff in a UOA, like RL on steroids !
The PTFE and Graphite are adds that I question in the formulations.
I do like the POE bases used.
Miro, it sure seems like you have some kind of affiliation with Terry Dyson
quote:Miro, it sure seems like you have some kind of affiliation with Terry Dyson
Not in our customer base - and for sure we do not release any "proprietary" data to anyone, especially if he is not using our products in anything.
Again anyone can calim anything on Internet or on post boards.
And any post from anyone taht is affraid to reveal their name, location e-mail, are sure questionable.
Send me e-mail for Terry Dyson and I will e-mail him !
Or better yet have him e-mail me since he apparently know how to do it!
quote:Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:quote:Miro, it sure seems like you have some kind of affiliation with Terry Dyson
Not in our customer base - and for sure we do not release any "proprietary" data to anyone, especially if he is not using our products in anything.
Again anyone can calim anything on Internet or on post boards.
And any post from anyone taht is affraid to reveal their name, location e-mail, are sure questionable.
Send me e-mail for Terry Dyson and I will e-mail him !
Or better yet have him e-mail me since he apparently know how to do it!
To Contact Dyson Analysis:
Petroleum Standards
Dyson Analysis
Attention: Terry
6279 CR 1140
Celeste, TX 75423
Phone: 903.413.2071
Email: terry@dysonanalysis.com
Here's the info Miro, so are you going to contact him.
quote:terry@dysonanalysis.com
I just did
Caught pedaling uSed oil. Now please explain how fuel is in your oil...The oil is used oil folks....USED OIL!!!
The TBN show's the oil is depleted!!
A flim flam man caught red handed...That is a title for a thread!!!!
SYNLUBE IS USED OIL...What a cheapskate!!
The word is out from sea to shining sea.
Do not buy Synlube...'USED OIL'
The TBN show's the oil is depleted!!
A flim flam man caught red handed...That is a title for a thread!!!!
SYNLUBE IS USED OIL...What a cheapskate!!
The word is out from sea to shining sea.
Do not buy Synlube...'USED OIL'
Scam Alert, Scam Alert, Run away, Run away
SYNLUBE IS USED OIL!!
quote:Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
you just screwed up the third post should have been under you Trajan ID.
Can you keep your posts straight ?
Or will that take 3 more minutes:
Trajan =Date Registered: Sun March 14 2010
Nucleardawg=Date Registered: Sat March 13 2010
snakedoctor=Date Registered: Fri April 02 2010
When I screw up I let the old lady get on top.
Oh yeah, you are still a snake oil peddler.
Taterandnoodles
Anything looked or smelled like "used" oil to you ?
Trajan =Date Registered: Sun March 14 2010
Nucleardawg=Date Registered: Sat March 13 2010
snakedoctor=Date Registered: Fri April 02 2010
(same person really)
Want to know but fear to ask, but can not expain the difference between the LAB results...
(like Viscosity or TBN)
Anything looked or smelled like "used" oil to you ?
Trajan =Date Registered: Sun March 14 2010
Nucleardawg=Date Registered: Sat March 13 2010
snakedoctor=Date Registered: Fri April 02 2010
(same person really)
Want to know but fear to ask, but can not expain the difference between the LAB results...
(like Viscosity or TBN)
Miro Kefurt peddles used oil that he tries to pass off as 'syblube'
How does fuel get into your NEW oil!!!!EXPLAIN
The TBN shows it DEPLEATED!!
Synlube is used oil!!!
How does fuel get into your NEW oil!!!!EXPLAIN
The TBN shows it DEPLEATED!!
Synlube is used oil!!!
HOW does fuel get into your NEW OIL?????
THE TBN SHOWS IT DEPLEATED!!!!!!
SYNLUBE IS USED OIL...THE TRUTH HAS ARRIVED!!!!
THE TBN SHOWS IT DEPLEATED!!!!!!
SYNLUBE IS USED OIL...THE TRUTH HAS ARRIVED!!!!
You can run but you can't hide. Today you are a common flim flam man. Tomorrow when you get up you will still be a common flim flam man trying to con people out of their hard earned money. In your heart of hearts you know its true.
This oil will RUIN a engine if left in as recommended.
This molasses will never see the inside of my pristine engine
THE TRUTH IS FINALLY HERE...SYNLUBE IS USED OIL!!!
This molasses will never see the inside of my pristine engine
THE TRUTH IS FINALLY HERE...SYNLUBE IS USED OIL!!!
