Synlube

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Originally posted by inHaliburton:
Hey, C3PO, just screwing with your mind. Do what you want. Supply links, copy and paste.

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Trajan: One reason that Noria adds this when posts have been edited:

"This message has been edited. Last edited by: Trajan, Wed April 14 2010 05:47 PM"

I rarely "edit" except to correct typos, add another thought, etc. Not to twist the truth.

inHaliburton, when I get sometime I will reread this entire thread and then comment, it would be nice if more Synlube Users would come on this Forum to share there experiences with us instead of all this fighting going on from most of us here who have never used Synlube.

Let's try to keep this Discussion CIVIL.

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Originally posted by ADFD1:
I got it!!!!!!! Still costly though. Oh wait you can send the waste oil in for a refund when you junk the car. LOL

Cost is relative. Last year I purchased 8 gallons amsoil UTF, 6 quarts severe gear, 2 gallons AME, half a case of grease. Just check those prices even at PC pricing.

Civil? Sorry C3PO the time for that was long ago...But the Sinners are amusing to me, and others, and I take none of them, or the comments seriously

Hey Miro say HI to your mother and father for me!

The TBN on the synlube oils tested were just plain AWFUL...And these were VOA's.

What yard stick are you using to compare TBN?

I spent $780 on Amsoil since Jan 2009.

I saw through this scam early on. I have absoulty no respect for people who do this kind of stuff to people who want to believe in them.

I can understand why some people would want to believe in this, I mean who wouldn't want to not have to change oil, but I have learned along the way, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

What these people are doing is criminal. and I hope some day they get what they deserve. In the meantime I can find nothing positive to say.

have a good one

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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
Civil? Sorry C3PO the time for that was long ago...But the Sinners are amusing to me, and others, and I take none of them, or the comments seriously

Hey Miro say HI to your mother and father for me!

The TBN on the synlube oils tested were just plain AWFUL...And these were VOA's.

I see my CIVIL comment got thrown out the window, if Miro cannot explain the TBN on his oil as well as the strange Viscosity, meaning we have seen this oil show up in VOA's as a 30 weight or 40 weight oil, then I have to say who would even buy this oil.

Nucleardawg, I think you would agree with me that the majority of the people who have read this Synlube Thread would not even think of buying Miro's Magic Oil.

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Originally posted by C3PO:

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Originally posted by inHaliburton:
Hey, C3PO, just screwing with your mind. Do what you want. Supply links, copy and paste.

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Trajan: One reason that Noria adds this when posts have been edited:

"This message has been edited. Last edited by: Trajan, Wed April 14 2010 05:47 PM"

I rarely "edit" except to correct typos, add another thought, etc. Not to twist the truth.

inHaliburton, when I get sometime I will reread this entire thread and then comment, it would be nice if more Synlube Users would come on this Forum to share there experiences with us instead of all this fighting going on from most of us here who have never used Synlube.

Let's try to keep this Discussion CIVIL.

To have a civil discussion requires all parties to be civil. Something that has been lacking in inhal's posts.

To use one of his own posts, "I wonder what dumb dumb will post next."

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Originally posted by Captain Kirk:

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Originally posted by inHaliburton:
From Trajan:

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AAA Project Identification Number: 81Project Number: 2002-0317-1Link to test that does not lead to your website.

Thanks for taking the time off from the BOBALOO forum to come over here to post more of your less than useless musings. Here's hoping that you soon gain employment that matches your intelligence.

NICE JOB!! WELL SAID!!


NOTICE HOW THE BACKGROUND NOISE(TRAJEN), HAS BEEN SILENCED!!

Yep. Real civil....

I don't pay him any attention. I think he believes if he blows someone elses candle out, it will make his brighter.

I see what you are saying Trajan, I guess the SYNLUBE WAR will continue and pretty soon we will be up too 100 pages of NONSENSE.

Well the yardstick I would compare against the Synlube TBN would be Redline oil which I run in both my Mustang GT and Cobra, and the wife's Corvette.

The TBN for Redline is roughly double what is measured by Synlube. And I have data on the Redline when I wish to compare against other oils.

Also if I wish to e-mail or phone Redline they are always courteous and professional.

But I will admit I also really like Mobil 1's EP line of oils as well

@ C3PO: Anybody reading this thread would wonder what is wrong with Miro and the minions.

Never have I ever witnessed such a side step, and the lies and double talk as well. While it is amusing, I HAVE TO QUESTION WHY A NEARLY 60 YEAR OLD MAN 'MIRO' WISHES TO BE SEEN AS A INTERNET TROLL.

But I assume he cares not about our opinions nor who he lies to about his product.

It is this most unethical business behaviour, which is probably the killer, for anybody reading these Synlube threads

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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
Well the yardstick I would compare against the Synlube TBN would be Redline oil which I run in both my Mustang GT and Cobra, and the wife's Corvette.

The TBN for Redline is roughly double what is measured by Synlube. And I have data on the Redline when I wish to compare against other oils.

Also if I wish to e-mail or phone Redline they are always courteous and professional.

But I will admit I also really like Mobil 1's EP line of oils as well

I've seen VOA TBN's for redline from 6 to over 10 depending on gas or deisel formula.

Synlubes measured starting TBN of 4-6 and change is not stellar but also would not be considered depleted. What is of more interest to me personally is the difference between the measured TBN and the listed TBN on the PDS which was over 11.

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Originally posted by C3PO:

inHaliburton, when I get sometime I will reread this entire thread and then comment, it would be nice if more Synlube Users would come on this Forum to share there experiences with us instead of all this fighting going on from most of us here who have never used Synlube.

Let's try to keep this Discussion CIVIL.

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C3PO, I'm in agreement. Being CIVIL is good. Trading insults is time-consuming and counterproductive.

I suggest that we also extend civility to Miro. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone. If we are more civil to Miro, perhaps we may learn more about the product. Worth a try?

@ Tater: The 20w may be a little over 6. Mine is around 9. The diesels are 12 or so.

Yes the discrepancy between what was claimed by Synlube, and what was found is troubling.

Redline, I feel is just an outstanding oil. And the people you speak with seem knowlegable and professional.

Nuc, the "say hi to your mom and dad" are, IMHO, is a bit too much.

Yes, it does get tiring to hear the constant stream of insults and accusations from miro/kirk/inhal.

But, they resort to such because their arguement has no foundation to stand on.

Yeah, I'm starting to do it myself. Retaliation is nice, but not at the expense of clouding the facts. Let them amke fools of themselves.

The fact is that synlube has no API cert. And the result of that fact was a tirade about Japan.

Doesn't alter the fact that the oils Miro claimed were not API certified actually are.

That is just one. This thread is just full of that kind of thing.

The fact that there have been scores of pages whining instead of showing the documents that back of the claim of passing tests speaks volumes.

To say nothing of mail drops, revoked licenses, phantom business addresses. (Did he ever tell you where the factory was after we told him what he wanted to know about Shell?)

@Trajan: I agree on the remark as you know to what I refer, and apologize to you. or others.

Yes the endless two step is very weird. Again I wonder what is with a 60 y/o man and his minions who...well to be blunt act like a teenagers.

I personally have never come across a company as shady...with all the manufactured 'evidence' and strange people coming out of nowhere on a 'Jihad' to attack non believers.

Again apologies for anything that may have offended.

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Originally posted by inHaliburton:

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Originally posted by C3PO:

inHaliburton, when I get sometime I will reread this entire thread and then comment, it would be nice if more Synlube Users would come on this Forum to share there experiences with us instead of all this fighting going on from most of us here who have never used Synlube.

Let's try to keep this Discussion CIVIL.

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C3PO, I'm in agreement. Being CIVIL is good. Trading insults is time-consuming and counterproductive.

I suggest that we also extend civility to Miro. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone. If we are more civil to Miro, perhaps we may learn more about the product. Worth a try?

One thing I do like about Miro and the Synlube Gang is that they do not give up. I may not agree with everything they say at times.

I just wish Frank Miller over at auto-rx was more like Miro, he debates with me for a few posts and then goes ahead and just runs away.

Miro is a fighter and a sly debater, Frank Miller could learn something from reading Miro's posts.

@ iNHALIBURTON: I think and most others would agree, that 4-5 years is more then enough time for Miro to 'provide' legitimate documentation.

Frankly we have learned from VOA's that the product does not meet in any way, ANY claimed specs. In fact what was found is a little troubling

Frankly the damage done by Miro/you and others have provided me with all the knowledge I need. Everything that was posted has frankly turmed off anyone to whom I have spoke with

Now all this information is available for all to read, and form their own opinions.

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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
@ iNHALIBURTON: I think and most others would agree, that 4-5 years is more then enough time for Miro to 'provide' legitimate documentation.

On the flipside of that Nucleardawg, are the users who have stated they are satisfied with Synlube, have used the product for several years and tens of thousands of miles.

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Frankly we have learned from VOA's that the product does not meet in any way, ANY claimed specs. In fact what was found is a little troubling

More tests would be more conclusive.

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Frankly the damage done by Miro/you and others have provided me with all the knowledge I need. Everything that was posted has frankly turmed off anyone to whom I have spoke with

I could retort with my opinion to that statement, but won't because it's pointless.

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Now all this information is available for all to read, and form their own opinions.

Too true!

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Frankly we have learned from VOA's that the product does not meet in any way, ANY claimed specs. In fact what was found is a little troubling

I can see none of you read the links proving the unreliability of cheap VOA/UOA tests that even Noria talked about in the above links to the articles.


I contacted by phone today DYSON ANALYSIS regarding test results and here is what the rep said reinforcing the above links about the reliability of said tests!!!!!

Various lube oils/brands will have an array of aromatic chemical compounds that on occasion will skew the results and even given false positives or negatives such as fuel and so forth. etc. There you go!!!

If you don't believe me,then call them and ask yourself......

.....1-877-808-3750 I bet no one calls!!

Guys,what did you expect spending 23 bucks for a test.

One of the links I pasted yesterday shows a test that costs $ 1,500 to very precisely measure water intrusion into the lube because the other cheaper tests are way off. So 20 bucks is useless!!

The ultimate test of a lube is what it is doing in the engine or gearbox.

My real world tests show/proves that the lube is doing exactly what the Synlube website claims to do.

My engines are the best part of the car with Synlube!!!!!!!!! NO ISSUES EVER!!!

Did I mention I have it in the differentials now as well and they run much cooler!! The front Jeep diff still has the old 75w-140 stuff installed with 14k and I could fry an egg on it after a good highway run. The rear is barley warm now as opposed to being hot like the front with the old stuff!!!! Next couple of weeks the front will be getting the Synlube 75w-90 as well.

I think instead of calling Dyson Analysis maybe we could get Terry Dyson to come on here and answer some of our questions.

uhhhh. Yes we saw this the first 10-20 times you posted this...We have formed our own opinion....

Feel free to post another 10-20 times...My opinion is still the same...It didn't meet it own spec on the SIMPLEST of the testing...VISCOSITY and TBN is way off.

To be honest the findings were what we expected, that Synlube could not meet that which it claimed. The tests were not done by a laboratory that is short on time or expertise.

The tests were performed by a respected Tribologist, with no horse in the running...In other words he wanted to analyze the sample, and report what was found.

The report back was Snlube did not meet ITS spec. I mean I can understand moly or other like items being somewhat off.

BUT VISCOSITY AND TBN?


well?

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Originally posted by C3PO:
One thing I do like about Miro and the Synlube Gang is that they do not give up. I may not agree with everything they say at times.

I just wish Frank Miller over at auto-rx was more like Miro, he debates with me for a few posts and then goes ahead and just runs away.

Miro is a fighter and a sly debater, Frank Miller could learn something from reading Miro's posts.

I have no connection with the oil biz other than as a consumer. I enjoy reading about it and car maintenance. Like others, Miro seems to have very broad knowledge of the auto and oil businesses.

I've previously stated that I'm using Amsoil products in my car and commercial lawn equipment. I have not tried Synlube products. As stated recently by someone in this thread, I did say I was going to have some shipped to NY state where I would pick up on my next visit to my daughter's place. I did not get around to doing that. Frankly, If I was not satisfied using Amsoil products for some reason or an other, I would consider using Synlube. I have not read anything yet that would indicate to me that the product is not a good one, except some reference to higher than normal iron in a test.

Did I understand that correctly?

I like REDLINE OIL. I run Redline in my Mustang GT and Cobra.

Redline is a proven winner. I am soon going to add the Redline D4, to the GT's automatic, while at the same time, switching out the MT fluid and gear oil, all over to Redline as well.

Redline products are excellent in my opinion, and the people I speak with at Redline, are professional and knowlegeable.

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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
@Trajan: I agree on the remark as you know to what I refer, and apologize to you. or others.

Yes the endless two step is very weird. Again I wonder what is with a 60 y/o man and his minions who...well to be blunt act like a teenagers.

I personally have never come across a company as shady...with all the manufactured 'evidence' and strange people coming out of nowhere on a 'Jihad' to attack non believers.

Again apologies for anything that may have offended.

You didn't offend me I just don't want to see you go down that road.

Never wrestle with a pig - you'll both get dirty, and the pig will love it

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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
I like REDLINE OIL. I run Redline in my Mustang GT and Cobra.

Redline is a proven winner. I am soon going to add the Redline D4, to the GT's automatic, while at the same time, switching out the MT fluid and gear oil, all over to Redline as well.

Redline products are excellent in my opinion, and the people I speak with at Redline, are professional and knowlegeable.

Redline is a good choice. My second favorite oil is AMSOIL. Redline is good,just curious why you chose it over Amsoil? I know the racing circuit also likes Royal Purple racing oil.

Inhaliburton does not use Synlube...He uses Amsoil....Good choice... Amsoil is a PROVEN AND TESTED WINNER

I chose Redline because it is a proven winner...Ester based with a high Noack, and loads of moly...Can't go wrong

@ TRAJAN: I see in numerous posts here, that you and I, are one in the same person...LMFAO.

Let me say that again..LAUGHING MY F***ING A$$ OFF.

Re: Synlube VOA Attempt - Set-Up Thread [Re: bruce381]
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Bruce I just got off the phone with Polaris data analysis about the 40C, 100C and fuel. According to data analysis the fuel is inaccurate since they should not have been testing for it on a New lube reference. The machine can miss read the oil molecules as fuel. Some how the oils weight and the corresponding length of the molecular chain can effect the results, when tested a new lube can be miss read as containing fuel.

Hopefully you or Molakule understand and can explain it properly.

I noticed while on the phone with Polaris that the updated results had a lower fuel% of .1 down from .3 which is how we got on the fuel issue.

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Just wanted to further back the notion that lube analysis Labs are not perfect like was mentioned above. Makes me wonder what else did they goof up on.

LOOKS LIKE AMSOIL IS THE PROVEN WINNER ON THESE TESTS.

http://www.synthetic-motor-oil...soil-vs-redline-oil/


http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/dyno-test.php


My favorite because of longevity is synlube......however it would be interesting to see synlube in those above tests just to see how it compares with the other lubes in direct comparison. I would have to assume the colloids alone would give it a top score!!

THE GOOD OL' 4 BALL...THAT ONE IS INDUSTRY ACCEPTED...

I saw some Redline did as well...Redline won...Anyway I like Redline for my modulars.

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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
@ TRAJAN: I see in numerous posts here, that you and I, are one in the same person...LMFAO.

Let me say that again..LAUGHING MY F***ING A$$ OFF.

Yeah, it is beyond the comprehension of some that more than one person would dislike this witche's brew.

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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
THE GOOD OL' 4 BALL...THAT ONE IS INDUSTRY ACCEPTED...

I saw some Redline did as well...Redline won...Anyway I like Redline for my modulars.

I pasted another link above with more info...look again.

I saw another test where Royal Purple won...JUST BECAUSE IT IS STATED ON THE INTERNET DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...

Someone reading this thread will also see that...There is a lot of sheep though, who can be herded...

Kirk...If I need any info from you...I will be sure to ask.

Every so often someone will drag out a '4 ball' from a MFG. usually AMSOIL, as they like to use it for marketing...

Every so often in Detail/wax threads someone likes to drag out a picture of the red Camaro waxed with NUFINISH.

Amsoil makes a great product...I prefer Redline

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...umber=1628829&page=1

They had called the next day and I was floored when the service manager told me he had changed the oil as whatever was in there was SO SLUDGED that it sort of chunked out

And later.....

Wasn't there a guy called Houckster a year or two ago that came aboard. He was to report back on his progress with SynLube. Have anybody heard from him?


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His profile lists him as the owner of Synlube, so his opinions mean nothing. He is also on the gasbuddy.com websites, posting his Synlube infomercials in the car talk section all the time, but yet he swears up and down that he isn't the owner of Synlube