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I am starting a lubrication improvement program at our site in 2013.
As part of program the number of greases on site will be reduced. I plan to check for grease compability using the grease compatibility charts. For the most critical equipment I will have the grease compability tests done.

My understanding is that grease incompability typically causes two sorts of problems.
1) Oil bleeds out of one of the thickners.
2) Chemical interaction between thickners causes one or both of the thickners to become hard.

Are the other problems that occur with grease incompability?
My initial thought process is to measure bearing temperature with an IR gun over the course of few weeks to make sure the bearing temperature is stable before any changes to grease is made. After purging the previous grease out of the bearing, then to record the bearing temperature again with the new grease in the bearing. Then continue to montitor the bearing temperatures for a few weeks. If bearing temperature is stable, then there is not likely a grease compatibility issue.

The above method is meant to provide early detection of bearing failure from greases I thought were compability, but are actually not compatible.
I am curious for feedback if people think using IR gun to measure bearing temperature is going to be an effective method of detecting a bearing failure from a grease incompatibility issue early enough to schedule a replacement of the bearing?

How quickly should I expect a grease incompatible problem to cause a measureable rise in bearing temperature? (days, weeks, months)
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There is a much easier, mechanically safer, allbeit less scientific way to evaluate compatibility. Take equal amounts of grease, about a spoonful. Mix them together thoroughly and let them set. Oil bleed will be obvious within 24 hrs if incompatible. Bentone grease is not compatible with any other type, it's a great way to see what reaction to expect.
Reducing greases is not necessarily improving. It must be done carefully, as you seem to be doing.

I am not sure why you would want to purge the old grease. When I have an obsolete grease I don't even attempt a purge, all that does is fill the cavity. I just do the testing, and then the new grease is used as a top off and for rebuilds.

Careful selection is the key. Watch your base oil viscosity too. Along with EP and AW properties.

Generally, like thickeners are OK, but I have had 2 greases using Lithium (Stearate IIRC) thickener fail badly on testing.

And I've seen almost in NLGI grade results from combos the tables advise against. (from testing done on a "for cause" basis and short term use after a mistake)

As for the IR gun, they are ballpark instruments and I really don't like them (Thermographer too). If you are trying to purge the cavity, you will see higher temps anyway, so how will you know if it is because of the grease or overpacking?
Robert, thanks for the feedback.

Could you recommend a company to do the grease compability test? What grease compatability tests do you typically have done?


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Originally posted by RobertC:
Reducing greases is not necessarily improving. It must be done carefully, as you seem to be doing.

I am not sure why you would want to purge the old grease. When I have an obsolete grease I don't even attempt a purge, all that does is fill the cavity. I just do the testing, and then the new grease is used as a top off and for rebuilds.

Careful selection is the key. Watch your base oil viscosity too. Along with EP and AW properties.

Generally, like thickeners are OK, but I have had 2 greases using Lithium (Stearate IIRC) thickener fail badly on testing.

And I've seen almost in NLGI grade results from combos the tables advise against. (from testing done on a "for cause" basis and short term use after a mistake)

As for the IR gun, they are ballpark instruments and I really don't like them (Thermographer too). If you are trying to purge the cavity, you will see higher temps anyway, so how will you know if it is because of the grease or overpacking?
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