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Apparentally, the 5W40 "Belgian Castrol" is pretty decent too, though I have no personal experence with it.

In my oppinion, it isn't so much that the American Castrol (10W30, 5W50) etc perform badly, it is more that they are radically over priced Group III oils. It is sort of like a Fram oil filter: your engine probably won't fall apart but you are definitely paying more than you should for the product you receive.
robert_korn_226, I understand your high on castrol syntec because it"s a factory fill on some vehicles, but let's me make an analogy. You can use factory ammunition for a weapon, but to compete, you have to reload your own. You can always improve on factory made performance. Reloding your own, gives you the flexibility to more closely match the ammunition to your specific weapon. Big business uses whatever works at a cost they can afford, don't ever think it's the best! Just because Castrol is a factory fill for BMW doesn't make it the best, it works and at a price they like, or they would use Mobil, shell or Valvolin whatever! Cool

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lpquick, I understand what you are saying about the fact that manufacturers use what ever they can get cheapest but something that catches my eye is that most manufacturers will not even tell you what they put in the cars they make so what I am trying to say is there must be something good about the oil they choose whether it be Castrol, Mobil, Shell and so on if they are brave enough to say what they put in the car factory fill. By the way I am not "high" on Castrol because it is factory fill in cars I am just a beleiver in how well it performs because my family has been using it for years and we have owened cars that has had well over 400,000 miles on them and I like to keep in mind that one reasone that they can get so many miles on them is because of the oil we use. As with me pointing out the manufacturers that use it I just think they must think they are using a good oil to say what they use in their cars and trucks or they just have big balls and really don't care. You choose.
I'm sort of ambivalent towards Amsoil personally, so I'm not the best person to tell you how to use it. It isn't so much that their products are inferior, more that the marketing end is annoying. The actual drain schedule will depend heavily on the driving conditions/ and how much you drive in any case.

I would avoid Amsoil's, or anyone else's bypass filter on most personal cars. I know very, very few people that drive enough miles, and keep a car long enough for it to pay off.

The big consideration with extended drains, is to do at least some oil analysis work. Now, if you're just stepping up from 3,000 mile changes, you can feel very safe going to the highest reccomended change interval, on a healthy engine...typically 7,500 miles, espically with syn oil.

A couple of links for you:

http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/oil-life.html

http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html


I basically agree with the above links, running Mobil 1 for 8-10k miles without a filter change, or 15k miles with 2-3 filter changes is a pretty good plan. I can't remember how hard it is to pull the filter on a 4-runner, but if its a real pain, I would go for the 8-10k change and only change the filter with the oil.

A comfortable plan for lots of people is an oil change ever 6 months with Mobil 1, or once a year on a car that only sees ~10k/ year.
Arbus, Thank you again for the information. Changing an oil filter on a 4Runner is a PITA, so I think I will go the 7.5K and see what happens. On thing I noticed with the Syntec @ 5K is a MPG drop and the engine ran rough. I know it was the oil because as soon as I changed it MPG came back and the engine idled smooth again...kinda scarey. That is what prompted finding this web site....what great info!!!! Can't wait to see what Mobil 1 will do for me!
Roll EyesWell I have read and had to write. I have a 94 Nissan pickup with 140000mi. used CASTROL SYNTEC from day 1.Never a problem with my 5000 OCI. I Am now using AMSOIL in all 4 of my cars.I have run OCA on many types of oil and never have to worry with the AMSOIL. I buy a discount card for $10 and pick up their stuff in gallons.The Tranny fluid too. It is the same price or cheaper as Mobil 1.I can go 7500 or 5000 whichever I choose cause I know the oil can handle it. Big Grin
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