Diesel Fleet Fuel Economy Study. AMSOIL synthetic drivetrain lubricants increased fu

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
"Diesel Fleet Fuel Economy Study"

"AMSOIL synthetic drivetrain lubricants
increased fuel economy in short- to medium-haul
trucking applications by 6.54 percent."

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2904.pdf?zo=1181889 .

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Tim, you have not harrased, abused, or threatened other members.
Tim, you have not posted content that is obscene or otherwise objectionable.
Tim, you have tried to stay on topic.

Tim, you have not refrained from using these message boards for commercial or advertising purposes.
Tim, you have posted copyrighted content without permission from the owner.

This Thread should be removed, since it does VIOLATE 2 Rules.

I only provided an informational link to a study performed by Ford and AMSOIL pertaining to truck lubrication which is permitted by AMSOIL.

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
I only provided an informational link to a study performed by Ford and AMSOIL pertaining to truck lubrication which is permitted by AMSOIL.

You are using this board for Advertising Amsoil, anyone can see that, you are Violating the Rules, why not contact an Administrator and ask him and we can see if you are right.

What is the purpose of the Link, to get people too buy Amsoil, you can call it an Informational Link, everything you put up or say on this site has only one purpose, and that is to sell Amsoil, you are not bringing anything positive to this Board.

I see there are 63 views so far, so it seems many are interested in the study. If anyone has other fuel savings studies using synthetic oils, please post.

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
I see there are 63 views so far, so it seems many are interested in the study. If anyone has other fuel savings studies using synthetic oils, please post.

63 Views is terrible, some threads on BITOG, the Website that you were Banned from because you were pushing Amsoil, they have well over 1000 Views.

I am not buying any study that Amsoil does, because they are made up, if we have an Amsoil Salesman that cannot follow the Rules here, then I have my doubts about what Amsoil says in there tests, it's just PURE MARKETING. Amsoil will say anything in there tests to get you to buy there products, there is nothing cutting edge about Amsoil anymore.

Tim, you do not even have any proof that Amsoil actually did any testing, you are a Salesman, were you in the Lab that Amsoil owns, the one that is less than a mile from Amsoil Headquarters.

How many people are doing 25,000 mile OCI's with Amsoil, not many. There were some people on BITOG that stopped doing extended drains because they were running into problems.

You can ask the Ford employees at Ford's Rawsonville, Michigan fleet maintenance facility that participated in the study if you have doubts.

The Texas State Police have been running AMSOIL 20,000 mile severe service oil and filter changes for the past 10 years without problems. They have around 3000 cars doing this.

Tim, I see there was an Administrator on, interesting.

Ford is going to do a study with Amsoil, I do not buy that for a minute.

I gave them a call and they DENIED ever doing any tests with Amsoil, now if I am wrong, you can invite one of these Ford Employees on here so that he can explain everything.

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Originally posted by TarHeel:
Tim, I see there was an Administrator on, interesting.

Ford is going to do a study with Amsoil, I do not buy that for a minute.

I gave them a call and they DENIED ever doing any tests with Amsoil, now if I am wrong, you can invite one of these Ford Employees on here so that he can explain everything.

Who did you speak with and what is his phone number? And what is your name so I can confirm you spoke with him?

More information on this test done with Ford Motor Company published in this magazine at http://flukesgreatoutdoors.com.../PC_December2011.pdf .

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:

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Originally posted by TarHeel:
Tim, I see there was an Administrator on, interesting.

Ford is going to do a study with Amsoil, I do not buy that for a minute.

I gave them a call and they DENIED ever doing any tests with Amsoil, now if I am wrong, you can invite one of these Ford Employees on here so that he can explain everything.

Who did you speak with and what is his phone number? And what is your name so I can confirm you spoke with him?

More information on this test done with Ford Motor Company published in this magazine at http://flukesgreatoutdoors.com.../PC_December2011.pdf .

Tim, why is the burden of proof always on everyone else. You are making the claims based on your in house testing. Why don't you provide names and phone numbers of those involved so interested parties can inquire if they choose?

The phone number is provided at the bottom of the study. The testing was done at Ford as indicated in the study. Not in house.

I only see a couple of Amsoil phone numbers. One looks like an order Hotline and the other looks like a corporate HQ. How about a number and some names at Ford, you've really piqued my interest.

Ford Motor Company - Rawsonville Plant http://www.ewashtenaw.org/gove...ord_rawsonville.html

Ask for fleet maintenance.

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
Ford Motor Company - Rawsonville Plant http://www.ewashtenaw.org/gove...ord_rawsonville.html

Ask for fleet maintenance.

Why don't you ask for FLEET MAINTENANCE, you are the one that started this Thread, lets get these Ford Guys on, if you do not get these guys on within 24 hours then everyone on this board will know what is really going on, Tim, the ball is in your hands. Your credibility is at stake, lets see what you got.

Originally posted by TarHeel:
Tim, I see there was an Administrator on, interesting.

Ford is going to do a study with Amsoil, I do not buy that for a minute.

I gave them a call and they DENIED ever doing any tests with Amsoil, now if I am wrong, you can invite one of these Ford Employees on here so that he can explain everything.[/quote]
Who did you speak with and what is his phone number? And what is your name so I can confirm you spoke with him?
I'm still waiting for your information...

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:

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Originally posted by TarHeel:
Tim, I see there was an Administrator on, interesting.

Ford is going to do a study with Amsoil, I do not buy that for a minute.

I gave them a call and they DENIED ever doing any tests with Amsoil, now if I am wrong, you can invite one of these Ford Employees on here so that he can explain everything.
Who did you speak with and what is his phone number? And what is your name so I can confirm you spoke with him?

I'm still waiting for your information...

I am still waiting on your information, at this point your credibility is at stake.

What information of mine are you waiting for? I'm still waiting for yours...

I have no information for you, you brought up the test, bring everyone or anybody who can back you up.

So you really didn't talk to someone at Ford today?

I provided the study, the magazine and phone numbers and contact info.

What backup are you talking about? Didn't you read the study?

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
So you really didn't talk to someone at Ford today?

I provided the study, the magazine and phone numbers and contact info.

What backup are you talking about?

I really did talk with someone, and it was not your study, it was Amsoil's so called Marketing Machine at work, this person I talked with had absolutely no clue about Amsoil, that is why I am asking you AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, get the appropriate people on here to back your story up, if you don't, then we will know that everything you have said is pure Marketing.

So who did you speak to at what number and what is your name so I can get it straightened out? What story are you talking about?

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
So who did you speak to at what number and what is your name so I can get it straightened out? What story are you talking about?

You call the number that I called and get this thing taken care of, you know the number, you provided the Link.

What was the name of that person and your name so I can get this straightened out?

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
What was the name of that person and your name so I can get this straightened out?

Quit stalling Tim, call the number and get things straightened out, I am not giving any names out.

Why not?

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
Why not?

Tim, you have until 5 P.M. tommorow to get a Ford Represenative on here, we are giving you 22 Hours, if we here nothing, then we know the so called Tests were false and the Link you provided us was PURE MARKETING.

Who is the Ford Rep you spoke with? I'll ask him if he would like to participate. Who is "we"? Who are you?

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
Who is the Ford Rep you spoke with? I'll ask him if he would like to participate. Who is "we"? Who are you?

I am not giving any names out, you can find someone that did that test too come here and participate, Tim, it is not cool to demand information from customers.

You provided the Link, then you need to provide us with some proof that Ford actually did some tests with Amsoil, I have my doubts.

Hi Tim... i agree with TarHeel after reading this pdf file, and my conclusion it's only marketing letter from Amsoil..that's it....
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Originally posted by TarHeel:

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Originally posted by Tim Vipond:
Who is the Ford Rep you spoke with? I'll ask him if he would like to participate. Who is "we"? Who are you?

I am not giving any names out, you can find someone that did that test too come here and participate, Tim, it is not cool to demand information from customers.

You provided the Link, then you need to provide us with some proof that Ford actually did some tests with Amsoil, I have my doubts.

This "study" is a joke. Enough said.

I should probably keep my mouth shut, but...
Results from one test may be interesting, but not statistically significant. (Five runs of 40 miles is pretty weak, IMHO.)
Let's assume the Ford test was completed. Fine. Now show me repeated results under near identical conditions.