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Interesting PDS

T taterandnoodlesMember
I received an interesting PDS today from a sales rep. I am told this oil is good for 25k+.

What is everyones opinion of this PDS?

quote:
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40º C; (mm2/sec) 100.4
cSt @ 100º C; (mm2/sec) 17.55

HTHS Viscosity, mPa•s @ 150ºC, ASTM D 4683 5.0
Viscosity Index 201
SAE Viscosity (J300) 5W-50
ISO Viscosity 100
MRV at -35ºC 27,653
Viscosity Index 201
SAE Viscosity 5W-50
ISO Viscosity 100


Sulfated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 0.02
Phosphorous PPM 1000

Pour Point, ºC, -45
Boiling Point, ºC, 316
Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 275.8



Density @15º C kg/l, ASTM D 4052 0.926
Vapor Density (Air = 1): > 2 at 101 kPa
Vapor Pressure: at 20°C < 0.013 kPa (0.1 mm Hg)
Total Base Number (TBN) 11.8
Solubility in Water: Negligible
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C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Taterandnoodles:
I received an interesting PDS today from a sales rep. I am told this oil is good for 25k+.

What is everyones opinion of this PDS?

quote:
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40º C; (mm2/sec) 100.4
cSt @ 100º C; (mm2/sec) 17.55

HTHS Viscosity, mPa•s @ 150ºC, ASTM D 4683 5.0
Viscosity Index 201
SAE Viscosity (J300) 5W-50
ISO Viscosity 100
MRV at -35ºC 27,653
Viscosity Index 201
SAE Viscosity 5W-50
ISO Viscosity 100


Sulfated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 0.02
Phosphorous PPM 1000

Pour Point, ºC, -45
Boiling Point, ºC, 316
Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 275.8



Density @15º C kg/l, ASTM D 4052 0.926
Vapor Density (Air = 1): > 2 at 101 kPa
Vapor Pressure: at 20°C < 0.013 kPa (0.1 mm Hg)
Total Base Number (TBN) 11.8
Solubility in Water: Negligible


Notice the silence in the room now! They have what they have been asking for!!
T trajanMember
Notice how many years it took to provide basic info.

My opinion? Made up recently. If it exsisted earlier, it would of been posted when the info was asked for rather than all the misdirection and deflection.

I'll stick with what I use. Didn't take years, the use of several websites, and boatloads of insults from the acolytes, to do that.

BTW, I knew what it was. The 5w-50 was a dead giveaway.

Still not ACEA rated, so it's a no go for me.

Strange that they send someone an email rather that posting said info themselves. Or in the other thread rather than the rants.
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C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by Taterandnoodles:
I received an interesting PDS today from a sales rep. I am told this oil is good for 25k+.

What is everyones opinion of this PDS?

quote:
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40º C; (mm2/sec) 100.4
cSt @ 100º C; (mm2/sec) 17.55

HTHS Viscosity, mPa•s @ 150ºC, ASTM D 4683 5.0
Viscosity Index 201
SAE Viscosity (J300) 5W-50
ISO Viscosity 100
MRV at -35ºC 27,653
Viscosity Index 201
SAE Viscosity 5W-50
ISO Viscosity 100


Sulfated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 0.02
Phosphorous PPM 1000

Pour Point, ºC, -45
Boiling Point, ºC, 316
Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 275.8



Density @15º C kg/l, ASTM D 4052 0.926
Vapor Density (Air = 1): > 2 at 101 kPa
Vapor Pressure: at 20°C < 0.013 kPa (0.1 mm Hg)
Total Base Number (TBN) 11.8
Solubility in Water: Negligible


Notice the silence in the room now! They have what they have been asking for!!



And of course the info has been on the synlube lube-4-life website all along to those who care to look it up in the first place like was done here by taterandnoodles. You can even send and recieve emails too. Nice Job!

I have been doing that since the year 2002.
A adfd1Member
Looks like a 50 grade oil that would do poorly at cold start protection with that 40*C number. It would certainly void any warranty for an engine calling for a 20 grade or 30 grade oil. TBN 11.8? Ultra and almost all of Amsoil products have a higher TBN, and that's off the top of my head.

This oil lasts 150,000 miles? I'll pass. At least they could have made the numbers look a little better, after all they made the PDF file.

I'll pass. Funny if it was on their site why didn't one of the company shills post it here and on the other board? That would have saved pages and pages of BS.

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A adfd1Member
Could u imagine going into a dealer complaining of a lifter tick, or a start up knock? A car under a 5 year 100K warranty, third year with 45K on the Synlube fill. Then when asked what oil were you using you inform the dealer "Synlube", "oil for life". Then you explain the process and that you used the proper filter and followed all directions to the letter. You'd be laughed out of the shop. Then inform Snlube of your woes asking for Synlube to replace the bad cam or sludged up engine. They'd probably hang up and laugh, if you could even find them.

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C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by RobertC:
My first glance at the first post raised several questions.

5W-50? too viscous for new car warranties.

201 VI. Really?

Phosphorous may be high enough to kill a cat. We have emissions testing.

Not near enough info there to make an intelligent decision.

SAe 5W-50
Iso 100

A broad range and a narrow spec. hmmmm.

Nope, not buying it.


Why would the phosphorous kill the Cat. if my engine is using less then 1 qt in 20,000 miles,which is my actual case on several cars. There has been actual emission tests done with synlube to back this. I have never had an emission issue with synlube.

The EPA,FTC,and so forth would be all over the company if that were the case. Yet no issues there as well.
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