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Hello, I am writing from Argentina..I am having some doubts regarding to TAN levels on the lubricant used on a marine gearbox.
The gearbox that I am talking about is an MAN AMG55EV, and really common gearbox in today's ships.
The oil used for this gearbox, as the manufacturer recommends is a SAE 30 "diesel engine oil". Actually we are using Shell Gadinia 30 as it is one of the recommended products in the manual of the equipment.
As this oil is made for engines, it has got initial TBN levels of 12, but as the system is a gearbox, when I do oil analysis I request for TAN.
Now, I am asking myself what happens when the TAN goes up, let's say to a value of 3.0.
Did TBN counteract the acid generated by oxidation of oil? In that case, when we change the oil, would be a good parameter to check the TBN apart from the TAN?
I am quite confused as you may see, all my life I have heard about alkaline reserve which give positive TBN value on engine oils, but as far as I am concerned gear/hydraulic oils haven't got this alkaline reserve...
Actually after running the oil for many hours probably (I haven't got an exact maintenance log from previous owner) we decided to change oil after getting a TAN value of 3.0.
I would be glad to hear your advice, what TAN value you think that would be good for this system, and which value would be critical. I think that it is good to remark that this equipment apart from gears, it has got a hydraulic system for the clutches and variable pitch propeller.
Thank you very much!!!
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Hi Rodri,

The important concept underlying oil analysis is trending. A good start would be to send your brand new oil from the barrel to the lab and establish a baseline for the oil properties. Once you have the start sample then you can start to establish a trend based on future samples.

Here is a good introductory article from Machinery Lubrication:
http://www.machinerylubricatio.../oil-analysis-report

The decision to change oil is not solely based on TAN/TBN. You need to take into account the whole picture. There are several other important parameters on an oil analysis report:

- viscosity
- ISO code (particle contamination)
- moisture contamination

If you keep particle and moisture contamination under control then the oil should remain stable for a long time (assuming you are not running at high temps.) When you let particle and moisture contamination remain in the oil this speeds up oxidation and increases TAN.

If you can control contamination in the oil then the viscosity and acidity will remain stable for a long time. Based on the trending of your oil analysis when you DO start to see a change in viscosity/acidity then you can consider an oil change.
Dear Perry,
Thanks for your reply.
I am aware about checking moisture and ISO code on gear oils, and obviously on hydraulics.
In this particular case of our marine gearbox the oil had around 22000hs and almost 8 years in use (well, I'm not sure but we don't have any information about previous maintenance on the equipment, and it is extremely probable that the oil was the same than when the ship got into the water).

Now the oil has been changed, just because a superior decided to change it based on running hours. The viscosity was in grade, moisture was really low, and ISO code was never measured but the level of insolubles was also very low.

My question was just something about the concept of TAN and TBN, if would an alkaline reserve compensate the acidity of the oil, because as far as I am concerned, TBN is made for counteracting the acids generated in combustion of an ICE, but I am not completely sure if it will also counteract the acidity generated due to oxidation of the oil.
Rodri, to answer your query, let us start off with a comparison on the makeup of Engine Oil vs. Gear Oil. Also earlier practice of recommending SAE numbers/ Engine Oils for other applications.

In an Engine, explosions occur during the compression cycle. Traces of Sulphur, Nitrogen, etc., in the fuel oxidises and in the presence of moisture and air, forms weak Sulphuric, Nitric and Hydrochloric (in sea or marine environment). The Engine Oil picks up weak acids and over time, as this, is in a circulating system, there is acid built-up and acid concentration increase. Hence, to counter the increasing acidity, Engine Oils have built-in Reserve Alkalinity referred to as TBN. The Reserve Alkalinity package, is sacrificial in nature and as the additive gets depleted in use, the TBN drops.

Till 2000, Fuels met Euro III category, this permitted (among other things) Sulphur up to 350 ppm. And reduced to 50 ppm under Euro IV. And further progressively reduced to 10 ppm of Sulphur in Euro V. Such Diesel fuels are referred as Ultra Low Sulphur Diesels (ULSD.) This reduction of fuels has its own implications.

http://www.slideshare.net/huss...r-low-sulphur-regime

Till 2005, it was a practice to package Diesel Engine Oils with 15 TBN or thereabouts. However the Fuel (nowadays), is stripped of Sulphur at refinery level, due to environmental implications. The current Diesel Engine Oil have 10 TBN or below to meet Euro V type ULSD. Therefore your startup TBN is the SAE 30 oil would probably have been higher than in vogue today.

Marine Industry, till recently have been patronising poor distillates, for two reasons. 1. Less refined hence cheaper 2. Due to lesser environmental impact on Sea and away from land mass/population. However, under MARPOL, the permitted Sulphur % in 2000 was 4.5% and 2015 onwards reduced to 3.5% for high seas sailing. And even lesser, when sailing into major Ports.

The typical gear oil undergoes severe shear and load stress and thus the Gear Oil gets oxidised. However, the additive package for gear oils contain Sulphur /Phosphorus (SP) packages blended with cylinder oils for Extreme Pressure (EP) performance. Currently, under environmental pressure SP additivated packages are being restricted. However as no explosion take place, as in an IC engine, the sulphur activity is tamed. And no fuel present either, to add to complications. It may be noted that the circulating systems in Marine Gear box may not be a completely closed system and breathers may permit sea atmosphere. All the same, the shear stress results in oxidation and there is a “mild” built-up of acidity which we generally measure by its Acid Number (AN) and could be referred as TAN and not TBN. In use, the AN increases.

Finally, it was a practice by many OEM’s, in the earlier days to recommend an SAE 10, 30 or 40 Engine Oil for many Hydraulic, Transmission and Gear applications. These recommendations were largely to optimize Lubricants in use in a Ship by a closest fit policy. Additionally most Marine Oils were defined by a TBN and an SAE number. It may be noted that the SAE numbers do not qualify the oil for its performance; it just indicates "a band in the viscosity range”. The SAE 30 would indicate a 100 cSt Gear Oil in today’s parlance. Additionally, the make-up of current gear Oil for Marine applications has a high Viscosity Index HVI (150 or more) to meet the exacting demands of a Marine and humid environment.

To conclude, TBN would NOT be the right benchmark for Gear Oils, further it decreases in use. Acid number or TAN is a better measure for non engine oils, and increases in use.
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