8 years experience without changed the oil in 1 car is totally different with a few engines in 8 years.
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enoch
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quote:Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
I am new here,but have been using synlube for almost ten years now. I have found the Re-Refined oil info on the net in 3 minutes!!! It's under Executive order 13101,...so Miro was spot-on correct. Skeptics, can you do a little investigative research on your own!!! Re-refined oil info is all over the net!!!
I would also like to mention that synlube is for-real,and does and is working like stated in all my vehicles,...lawn mower,snow blower,pressure washer,etc. The equipment falls apart around the engine,until one now has "junk" with a perfectly good engine!!!
My question has nothing to do with finding the executive order.
I want to know what company name or GSA contract number they are selling it through. It is not required to have a GSA contract but the use of GSA contracts by agencies is preferable over open market purchases.
FYI the federal and state governments have access to all of the major oil companys products via GSA contracts. If they wish they can purchase products from Exxon-Mobil including Mobil 1, Chevron, Sopus etc etc. If they choose to go a greener route via GSA contract they can also purchase products like GET G-oil.
Mantek? I have not heard of that one, but its available. They provide engine oil but also industrial oils.
http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/...RVIEW&contentId=8106
I should add I have tried searching under the company names that I thought would generate a return with no luck including Oka, Mirox, Synlube I even tried simply searching Miro's name etc. My best guess is he is not albe to offer it at a high enough volume and is selling it locally.
WOW I was reading about this on another site, this argument has been going on for years now. Still no VOA or UOA reports? This product is so advanced no lab is capable of analyzing it? Yea OK. Americans want to see proof, before they spend the kind of money this oil costs, so far all I see is hype by people planted here to post about the product. Anyone want to buy a bridge? LOL
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quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:
WOW I was reading about this on another site, this argument has been going on for years now. Still no VOA or UOA reports?
That is not entirely correct. There is a UOA posted by Houckster in this very thread, its pretty far back now. I did not find it particularly helpful. There is a second on BITOG in the last Synlube thread. I personally found that one far more interesting and it appears to match the values posted on synlube.com. I am unaware of any others being posted.
I would be interested in seeming any others if anyone knows of any.
I scanned the first one here, didn't see one on Bitog. I did notice a thread about a ruined engine, I'll have to go back and read that. Seems there is some opposition about a VOA. I guess if someone wants to blow $30+ they can get one. But the Synlube folks don't think there is a lab that can do it accurately.
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I just reposted the one on BITOG in the UOA section. I will pull the other UOA I know of in a minute.
quote:Originally posted by Taterandnoodles:
I just reposted the one on BITOG in the UOA section. I will pull the other UOA I know of in a minute.
Both UOA's are now in the UOA section on BITOG for those interested.
How do we prove the miles on the oil are actual? Unless a well respected member sent in the sample, I have no reason to believe any of it. Sorry, I blame being born and raised in NY, for my lack of trust.
I also read on the other site how defensive, sarcastic, and hostile the shills were.
Tater this isn't directed at u.
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I also read on the other site how defensive, sarcastic, and hostile the shills were.
Tater this isn't directed at u.
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That is why sending in a sample of the lube-4-life is a waste of time,because it will be dismissed for this or that reason!!! I think someone here if they are curious enough like I was over 8 years ago will have to take the plunge and go for it!! The posts have at least proven the curiosity level is there!
I tested it out on several of my "beater"(older with 100k) used cars as an "experiment". They all had very good engines in them at the start or I would not have bothered. I perform all my own work and repairs and figured if one of the engines started having any issues I could just change back to Amsoil and even do a flush. I am very much into maintenance and pay very close attention to my vehicles and listen to everything etc. It's almost an obsession!!
The 1996 buick riviera got the synlube at 114k and was traded in at 176k because the transmission was acting up and I was due for a new car anyway. The engine was flawless(3800 series II),and was flawless and running absolutely perfect at trade in. It was late at night and I never had the chance to even drain the oil out in that case. Synlube gives 100% credit for used oil,I got the credit using the pontiac oil when it was traded in.
The purpose was to first prove synlube lube-4-life before I installed in a new car which I finally did.
UOA has its place,but if the engine is running perfect,starts perfect at 5 degrees(no noises ever),economy always 23mpg,passes inspection etc., I never bothered. The best test would be to pull the motor apart and inspect for sludge,"mike" everything up etc., No UOA could do that!!
The NY taxi cap test with slick-50 involved pulling the engines apart before and after to measure all the specs and quantify all wear. That would be the right way to prove anything and that's why it was done. Not sure if they did uoa.
I did however on occasion peak into the valve cover with the oil fill cap/extension off all cars and saw only a clean,no sludge,no varnish environment. Very impressed by this.The synlube actually cleaned any varnish that was on the dipsticks,what can I say,it's true.
There must be some motor heads in this group somewhere with "credibility" who could prove what I already know to be true. This has been going on for years now,that is correct!! That should at least lend a good deal of credibility to the product,it's still around now for decades!! Wouldn't the FTC,or ripoff report, or major negative press be out there by now. That is why I decided to use it,....only good press,none bad that I could find,...and I looked.
Cars that had or still have this oil are, 2001 vw 1.8t 2009 mustang v6, 1991 cadillac 4.9(totaled),1995 pontiac 3.1(traded with-38k on oil,7 years) ,1996 buick riviera(traded-60k on oil,5 years), 2008 Jeep 4.7 v8.
Even though I did not put 100k on oil,it still is impressive. All cars had "severe" miles on them!!
I tried using castrol syntec in a 1986 regal 5.0 going 7,500,and had issues with sludge!! I flushed out the engine and went to amsoil at that time and did 10k changes,no problem,sold car with 190k. Store bought oils can't or shouldn't do extended oil changes,even mobile one states this now,its on the back of the bottle. Therefore going 60k is very impressive with zero issues using the synlube at the very least.
I tested it out on several of my "beater"(older with 100k) used cars as an "experiment". They all had very good engines in them at the start or I would not have bothered. I perform all my own work and repairs and figured if one of the engines started having any issues I could just change back to Amsoil and even do a flush. I am very much into maintenance and pay very close attention to my vehicles and listen to everything etc. It's almost an obsession!!
The 1996 buick riviera got the synlube at 114k and was traded in at 176k because the transmission was acting up and I was due for a new car anyway. The engine was flawless(3800 series II),and was flawless and running absolutely perfect at trade in. It was late at night and I never had the chance to even drain the oil out in that case. Synlube gives 100% credit for used oil,I got the credit using the pontiac oil when it was traded in.
The purpose was to first prove synlube lube-4-life before I installed in a new car which I finally did.
UOA has its place,but if the engine is running perfect,starts perfect at 5 degrees(no noises ever),economy always 23mpg,passes inspection etc., I never bothered. The best test would be to pull the motor apart and inspect for sludge,"mike" everything up etc., No UOA could do that!!
The NY taxi cap test with slick-50 involved pulling the engines apart before and after to measure all the specs and quantify all wear. That would be the right way to prove anything and that's why it was done. Not sure if they did uoa.
I did however on occasion peak into the valve cover with the oil fill cap/extension off all cars and saw only a clean,no sludge,no varnish environment. Very impressed by this.The synlube actually cleaned any varnish that was on the dipsticks,what can I say,it's true.
There must be some motor heads in this group somewhere with "credibility" who could prove what I already know to be true. This has been going on for years now,that is correct!! That should at least lend a good deal of credibility to the product,it's still around now for decades!! Wouldn't the FTC,or ripoff report, or major negative press be out there by now. That is why I decided to use it,....only good press,none bad that I could find,...and I looked.
Cars that had or still have this oil are, 2001 vw 1.8t 2009 mustang v6, 1991 cadillac 4.9(totaled),1995 pontiac 3.1(traded with-38k on oil,7 years) ,1996 buick riviera(traded-60k on oil,5 years), 2008 Jeep 4.7 v8.
Even though I did not put 100k on oil,it still is impressive. All cars had "severe" miles on them!!
I tried using castrol syntec in a 1986 regal 5.0 going 7,500,and had issues with sludge!! I flushed out the engine and went to amsoil at that time and did 10k changes,no problem,sold car with 190k. Store bought oils can't or shouldn't do extended oil changes,even mobile one states this now,its on the back of the bottle. Therefore going 60k is very impressive with zero issues using the synlube at the very least.
Captain Kirk: Since you seem to have the hotline to Miro. Perhaps you should notify him, that according to The State of Nevada, Department of Taxation, the Synlube business license is shown as PERMANENTLY REVOKED. This information is for public viewing on the Nevada state Department of Taxation, search for business entity, and type in Synlube. It clearly shows the business license as REVOKED and PERMANENTLY REVOKED at that!!
Also the Southern Nevada BBB gives Synlube a rating of (F). It is stated that the reason for that rating is it is not legally licensed to operate. This info is available for viewing on the Southern Nevada BBB website as well.
You should also notify Miro that his MIROX corp, is currently in default to the State of Nevada as well. The only facts that I have been able to verify concerning Synlube is that they are not legally licensed to operate in Nevada. I for one would not trust a company to warranty my engine, when they can't even pay there taxes....That is the only truth I can verify about Synlube folks. You can look it up as well, and verify for yourselves.
Also the Southern Nevada BBB gives Synlube a rating of (F). It is stated that the reason for that rating is it is not legally licensed to operate. This info is available for viewing on the Southern Nevada BBB website as well.
You should also notify Miro that his MIROX corp, is currently in default to the State of Nevada as well. The only facts that I have been able to verify concerning Synlube is that they are not legally licensed to operate in Nevada. I for one would not trust a company to warranty my engine, when they can't even pay there taxes....That is the only truth I can verify about Synlube folks. You can look it up as well, and verify for yourselves.
WOW. Trust an engine to them, send used oil back for a full refund? OK, like I said before anyone want to buy a bridge?
Maybe the nonsense will stop now? Or do we get 20 pages of rebuttal defending their position, and how the State of Nevada treated them unfairly? Time will tell. Cool thread though.
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Maybe the nonsense will stop now? Or do we get 20 pages of rebuttal defending their position, and how the State of Nevada treated them unfairly? Time will tell. Cool thread though.
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And still nothing from all the "Synluber's" Your silence tell's all, about the credibility of Synlube.
Captain Kirk, Jonny-B, Houckster, and yes you Miro...What a load of **it.
Captain Kirk, Jonny-B, Houckster, and yes you Miro...What a load of **it.
quote:Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
And still nothing from all the "Synluber's" Your silence tell's all, about the credibility of Synlube.
Captain Kirk, Jonny-B, Houckster, and yes you Miro...What a load of **it.
That is some interesting information. So I wonder why the synlube website has not been shutdown,and Miro is not sitting in jail rignt now??,...I know I would be!!! Where is the FTC,FBI etc.etc. If any company were actually in that much trouble of doing all of that they would have been gone long ago,taken away by the feds and put in jail.
We are not talking about some business on the side of the road. This company has a website and full exposure!!! Try doing all those criminal acts yourself with a website and major exposure for even 1 day,let alone decades,... and see how far you get!!
You better be hiding in a cave somewhere,outside of the US.
Maybe now that he's out of hiding they'll nail him. Or perhaps some Statute of Limitations is up and he can surface again? Something was going on that's for sure. IMO why gamble with the product? Then again maybe a good lawyer found a loop hole? Great way to do business if that's the case.
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Ahh, so here is where they fled.
OK, lets just ignore all the hard selling and attacks on those who dare to question this "Holy Grail"
I just want some basic answers.
The TBN of M1 0w-40 is 11.3
The TBN of synlube is?
The HTHS of M1 0w-40 is 3.7
The HTHS of synlube is?
M1 0w-40 is rated ACEA A3/B3
synlube is not. Either it hasn't been tested, or it has been and failed.
So, why should I buy it? And none of this save the Earth crap. If you are that concerned about it, you wouldn't need synlube because you wouldn't be driving...
OK, lets just ignore all the hard selling and attacks on those who dare to question this "Holy Grail"
I just want some basic answers.
The TBN of M1 0w-40 is 11.3
The TBN of synlube is?
The HTHS of M1 0w-40 is 3.7
The HTHS of synlube is?
M1 0w-40 is rated ACEA A3/B3
synlube is not. Either it hasn't been tested, or it has been and failed.
So, why should I buy it? And none of this save the Earth crap. If you are that concerned about it, you wouldn't need synlube because you wouldn't be driving...
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Ahh, so here is where they fled.
OK, lets just ignore all the hard selling and attacks on those who dare to question this "Holy Grail"
I just want some basic answers.
The TBN of M1 0w-40 is 11.3
The TBN of synlube is?
The HTHS of M1 0w-40 is 3.7
The HTHS of synlube is?
M1 0w-40 is rated ACEA A3/B3
synlube is not. Either it hasn't been tested, or it has been and failed.
So, why should I buy it? And none of this save the Earth crap. If you are that concerned about it, you wouldn't need synlube because you wouldn't be driving...
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30 pages of people endlessly demanding answers to this question and that question. None of the answers to your endless demands/questions have made any differece to opinions one way or another on this thread. Personally, I think the product has merit, though, I have not used it. Only what I've read and various testimonials. Too many blenders and people having taken night course on motor oils. Doubting Thomas don't normally realize the truth when they bump into it.
Ahh, so here is where they fled.
OK, lets just ignore all the hard selling and attacks on those who dare to question this "Holy Grail"
I just want some basic answers.
The TBN of M1 0w-40 is 11.3
The TBN of synlube is?
The HTHS of M1 0w-40 is 3.7
The HTHS of synlube is?
M1 0w-40 is rated ACEA A3/B3
synlube is not. Either it hasn't been tested, or it has been and failed.
So, why should I buy it? And none of this save the Earth crap. If you are that concerned about it, you wouldn't need synlube because you wouldn't be driving...
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30 pages of people endlessly demanding answers to this question and that question. None of the answers to your endless demands/questions have made any differece to opinions one way or another on this thread. Personally, I think the product has merit, though, I have not used it. Only what I've read and various testimonials. Too many blenders and people having taken night course on motor oils. Doubting Thomas don't normally realize the truth when they bump into it.
What endless questions have I made. If you can't answer what I asked, just say so.
If you think it has merit, use it. According to the nonsense posted on BITOG by two of the acolytes here, if you haven't used it, your opinions are meaningless.
So that would make yours.....
If you think it has merit, use it. According to the nonsense posted on BITOG by two of the acolytes here, if you haven't used it, your opinions are meaningless.
So that would make yours.....
quote:I just want some basic answers.
The TBN of M1 0w-40 is 11.3
The TBN of synlube is?
The HTHS of M1 0w-40 is 3.7
The HTHS of synlube is?
M1 0w-40 is rated ACEA A3/B3
synlube is not. Either it hasn't been tested, or it has been and failed.
Odd that in 30 pages these questions weren't answered. Oil companies might not disclose certain info, but this basic info is readily available.
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Yeah. Not like we're asking for trade secrets.
Not even their site has a product data sheet. I would think that would carry more weight with anyone that what we've been getting.
Not even their site has a product data sheet. I would think that would carry more weight with anyone that what we've been getting.
Again Synlube does not have a valid business license...It has been PERMANENTLY REVOKED...The Southern Nevada BBB gives them a rating of (F). These facts are verifiable via the State of Nevada, and the BBB.
These are the only facts, that you can verify of this sham of a company. Ask yourself why would you trust a company that doesn't have a business license? His Mirox corp is currently in default, to the state of Nevada, he can't pay his taxes pure and simple...This is a sham of a company. Anything else posted by the people promoting this product is HOT AIR...
Perhaps an e-mail should be sent to the Nevada Department of Taxation, notifying them that this company, does business illegally...What a joke!!
These are the only facts, that you can verify of this sham of a company. Ask yourself why would you trust a company that doesn't have a business license? His Mirox corp is currently in default, to the state of Nevada, he can't pay his taxes pure and simple...This is a sham of a company. Anything else posted by the people promoting this product is HOT AIR...
Perhaps an e-mail should be sent to the Nevada Department of Taxation, notifying them that this company, does business illegally...What a joke!!
