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Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
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Originally posted by Deltona_Dave:
I found a contact for Oakland P.D. I will be dropping him an email on Monday, when I get back to work. I will also send him a letter on Department Letterhead to see if I can get some feed back from their experience with the said patrol cars.

I will let you all know what I find out next week.

Cheers,
Dave


Dave, Hopefully the contact is not a new hire who wouldn't be aware of those cars or have access to the log books of said cars. Just my two cents I thought worth mention. Kirk


The contact I found is the head of Fleet management. These "test" vehicles were supposedly unloaded "auctioned" in late 09, so they should have it on record. If not, I will contact the Chief, he may recall it too.

Dave
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Originally posted by ADFD1:
Miro/Kirk Seems Trajan knows this whole Synlube thing is a scam along with most of us here. Still waiting on proof, not your side step shuffle.

AD


WOW..........ADF1..........Have you been reading any of the above posts with all the additional info that's been provided overall??


What side step shuffle? Trajen is your idle? Trajen knows something?? What??

Nice of you to pop in here with something intellectually stimulating!!

Why don't you try and answer some of the questions this thread is actually about...like......real world results with typical motor oil,sludge,wear,and what VOA/UOA actually tells us compared to what is ultimately occurring inside our engines.

What can you bring to this thread besides derisive remarks over and over again??
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Originally posted by Trojan aka snakedoctor:
Synlube claims to pass FTP/AAA tests. Link to the results.

Not some suspect site, a link to the reports on the EPA/AAA sites so that we can all read them.


Tojan/snakedoctor: you must have missed reading this on the previous paqe:

By Miro:

The fact that other oils fail in field and have to be changed is not our problem but someting for the BIG OIL selling cheap petroleum at BIG PROFIT is the issue - API nor BIG OIL disclose any informations about their tests, so nor do we, that is considered "proprietary" information and "trade-secret".

If you have few million to your name I will be glad to license you our formula.

Otherwise you just have to take real people experience in real cars that they drive in real life as the "proof".

It is quite silly to take any 40 hour Engine Test Stand test as "proof" especially if it is on 1994 engine that is not even produced any more, just check the SEQUENCE Engine tests and what they are actually run on and for how long 216 hours is the "limit" - in City Driving that is LESS than 2,500 miles !!!

There are not even any tests in USA to test the 2010 Low Emission Diesel impact on Motor Oil - only field experience will show few years from now what the problems will be.

And the MSDS regulations in USA have been the same since 1982, only the European have changed in 2004 and 2007.

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So, Trojan aka snakedoctor: Even you should be able to understand from reading the above that you won't be seeing said data. It's been posted serveral times throughout this thread.

You should get back to class before the kindergarten teacher notices you missing. And thanks for dropping by.
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Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
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Originally posted by ADFD1:
Miro/Kirk Seems Trajan knows this whole Synlube thing is a scam along with most of us here. Still waiting on proof, not your side step shuffle.

AD




WOW..........ADF1..........Have you been reading any of the above posts with all the additional info that's been provided overall??


What side step shuffle? Trajen is your idle? Trajen knows something?? What??

Nice of you to pop in here with something intellectually stimulating!!

Why don't you try and answer some of the questions this thread is actually about...like......real world results with typical motor oil,sludge,wear,and what VOA/UOA actually tells us compared to what is ultimately occurring inside our engines.

What can you bring to this thread besides derisive remarks over and over again??



Dude, the burden of proof lies with you. You see I'm not shilling anything here, you Kirk, and yourself Miro are the ones failing to convince this group and the BITOG group.

So far about all you have is a good line of Baloney, not much else. I'll give you a "B" for your effort, and an "A" for overall entertainment in all of this nonsense.

As far a Trajan goes, he represents the truth.

AD
Lets see, his msds have not changed since 1982, well osha did not require msds to be kept till 1986. So is the rest of that tirade in question as well.

And isn't the sequence lVA test run on a Nissan engine.

http://www.swri.org/4org/D08/G.../ivatest/default.htm

http://www.ilpi.com/msds/faq/partb.html#history

http://www.api.org/aboutoilgas...pi-quality-marks.cfm

And yes all this is good for is a good laugh.
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As I pointed out in the other thread, synlube isn't on the list.

Of course, Miro comes back with neither is Quaker State and Pennzoil. And Shell forgot to pay.

Naturally, when it is shown that they are, his comback. "Do you know where on Earth Japan is"

What can one expect from someone who demands my name and address? Or a vin number. Shame he lacks the necessary clearence.
Just is involvement with the Yugo is enough to drive away any customer.....the fact he say they are safe should be enough to prove is sanity level. Area 51, NASA, secret service….no know address, multiple personalities, you did admit you where Kirk, at least be a man and admit this one….stop acting like a piss off teenager , no it’s not me I did nothing wrong….you did it .
Well, what is enough to drive away any customer, if not the constant refusal to provide verifiable information, is the attitudes displayed by the synlube fans toward anyone who doesn't take their word as gospel.

It isn't up to me, ADFD1, bruce,synskeptic, Big Bear, et al, to prove that this stuff is viable.

That task is for synlube. And they fail at that task. For 56 pages, nothing but failure.

I know someone who sludged up his engine using this stuff. And all I get is grief.

I don't have to prove it doesn't work. You people have to prove it does. And these "testimonials" won't do it. Adult film stars draped on a hood won't do it.

Certainly, the constant barrage of pre school insults launched by miro/kurk/inhal/annie... whta happenned to annie anyway? Oh that's right, that was kirke all along.

But I digress.....

A company that uses mail drops. Sells out of car trunks. Claims to operate out of Mercury Nevada, which by the way, is closed to the general public last I heard.

$32 for a litre of gunk that isn't even API certified, let alone ACEA. And people who don't even use this expect me to buy it.

Nope. Not until I am satisfied that it is what it claims to be. Not until I am satisfied this isn't a scam.

The last 55 pages tell me it is a scam.

http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~rblander/snake_oil.txt Scroll down to the part called Psychological placebo. I read that and think synlube. I'll bet inhal is wishing he never found that link.
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Originally posted by Trojan aka snakedoctor:

Well, what is enough to drive away any customer, if not the constant refusal to provide verifiable information, is the attitudes displayed by the synlube fans toward anyone who doesn't take their word as gospel.


Who can argue with that. You should go now. You'll be late for kindergarten.

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It isn't up to me, ADFD1, bruce,synskeptic, Big Bear, et al, to prove that this stuff is viable.


Yes. Yes. We all apologize for expecting you to prove that this "stuff" is viable. Ciau.

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That task is for synlube. And they fail at that task. For 56 pages, nothing but failure.


Painfully true, oh wise one. Hasta la vista, baby.

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I know someone who sludged up his engine using this stuff. And all I get is grief.


Oh no. Not another neighbourhood sludger. You should go now. You'll be late for kindergarten.

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I don't have to prove it doesn't work. You people have to prove it does. And these "testimonials" won't do it. Adult film stars draped on a hood won't do it.


Okay. We'll prove anything you want. Check your blood pressure. Tootles.

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Certainly, the constant barrage of pre school insults launched by miro/kurk/inhal/annie... whta happenned to annie anyway? Oh that's right, that was kirke all along.


We feel your pain. Adios amigo.

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But I digress.....


You digress? Never. Parting is such sweet sorrow.

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A company that uses mail drops. Sells out of car trunks. Claims to operate out of Mercury Nevada, which by the way, is closed to the general public last I heard.


Who could argue with that? We'll miss you.

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$32 for a litre of gunk that isn't even API certified, let alone ACEA. And people who don't even use this expect me to buy it.


Don't buy it. Please! Consider your reputation. We are delighted with your appearance.

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Nope. Not until I am satisfied that it is what it claims to be. Not until I am satisfied this isn't a scam.


Yes. Yes. Bye bye. Please come again (NOT).

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The last 55 pages tell me it is a scam.


You certainly have an open mind on the subject. We'll miss you.
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Who can argue with that. You should go now. You'll be late for kindergarten.




inHaliburton I think the issue with trajen is that he hates to admit when is proven wrong. I've done it more than once and he can't deal with it.

I am willing to bet he doesn't even have a car,let alone a Beamer!! He posts 24/7...so we know he at least doesn't drive.

My posts have hours and days of gaps because I also have a life....and a job!!! Just look at his posts on this site and the other. Does he even sleep???
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I know someone who sludged up his engine using this stuff. And all I get is grief.



Trajen..........You have just fabricated another lie after making some 30 post and now another lie just shows up this late in the game. You're busted again! You failed to prove the last lie regarding the beamer z car........so your strategy is to fabricate another lie????
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