I think that we already figured out - only one user of Synlube is (still) Houckster.
Wanting not to be suspicious person in advance I would really need more technical documentation to accept Synlube claims and to use product. I usually do not believe in wonders but sometimes I just accept them. The (kind of) last one was (a few years ago) Russian oil additive which use allowed driving a car 100 kms without oil. That wasn't purpose of additive but it just demonstrates its abilities.
Free oil,… test,… am I missing something? I do not run a lot of mileage – so I would (unfortunately?) disqualify myself in advance.
Read our primer articles on High Mileage Oil, Synthetic Oil and Kinematic Viscosity
This may eventually prove to be the best stuff since sliced bread, but with virtually no testing results, API ratings on their product, and documentation except that on the Synlube site, I wouldn't put this stuff in my engine, even for nothing. Remember Slick 50?
If synlube is lurking I have a request. Would you submit a sample to Dyson Analysis and let Terry Dyson publish the results here. The analysis would cost you about $500 and I'm sure that would be no problem. Will the number of responses here, it would be the best $500 investment you ever made.
If this request is ignored then we have an answer and we can stick a fork in this thread, it's done.
Any comments?
If this request is ignored then we have an answer and we can stick a fork in this thread, it's done.
Any comments?
Good idea. Let professionals to say a 'final word'. At least all of us (including Houckster) can agree about fact that oil analysis (not only Dyson) reveals what is happening with oil and engine.
So, can we even ease requests? Any of available oil analysis (Amsoil, PdMA, Wear Check, Oil Analysis Lab Inc., Bently,...) results could be acceptable.
So, can we even ease requests? Any of available oil analysis (Amsoil, PdMA, Wear Check, Oil Analysis Lab Inc., Bently,...) results could be acceptable.
Intriguing post from Bob
I use these oils as my father is a dealer in France.
There is no dealer outside Europe.
All their oils are ACEA A3 rated at least, except the 15W60 non graphited dino (not listed on their website).
I've used the Carat-S which is currently ACEA A3/B3/C3 and complies with many EU car makers specs, from 45K to 50,35K miles with an OCI at 50K. I crashed my car then, changed the body and need to spend several hundred € to buy dead electronic parts.
My current mix is the same model of car is a group 3 A3 rated 5W40 -their lowest oil quality- with a graphite/MoS2 additive.
Engine is 136hp 1.4L 8V turbocharged, with 81.4K miles.
I'll swith back to the carat S for my next OCI (every 4661 miles or 7 500 kms).
If I tune my engine (injectors, turbo, intercoler, cams...), I'll use the ester based "Bio Carat", very robust in competition use.
Marly is a solid lubricant specialist since 1919 and uses graphite in automotive products since 1930.
They use graphite and moly (SX oil additive which is a gaphite + MoS2 combinaison in synthectic fluids) for decades, and are also a special lubricants maker.
Graphite particles are <1µ and never caused damages from what I know with the Black Gold oil range.
These oils apparead in 1977 and have always been formulated with a colloidal suspension of graphite particles.
Graphite oils failed to be largely used because of the dark colour, people think dark oil is used oil
I use these oils as my father is a dealer in France.
There is no dealer outside Europe.
All their oils are ACEA A3 rated at least, except the 15W60 non graphited dino (not listed on their website).
I've used the Carat-S which is currently ACEA A3/B3/C3 and complies with many EU car makers specs, from 45K to 50,35K miles with an OCI at 50K. I crashed my car then, changed the body and need to spend several hundred € to buy dead electronic parts.
My current mix is the same model of car is a group 3 A3 rated 5W40 -their lowest oil quality- with a graphite/MoS2 additive.
Engine is 136hp 1.4L 8V turbocharged, with 81.4K miles.
I'll swith back to the carat S for my next OCI (every 4661 miles or 7 500 kms).
If I tune my engine (injectors, turbo, intercoler, cams...), I'll use the ester based "Bio Carat", very robust in competition use.
Marly is a solid lubricant specialist since 1919 and uses graphite in automotive products since 1930.
They use graphite and moly (SX oil additive which is a gaphite + MoS2 combinaison in synthectic fluids) for decades, and are also a special lubricants maker.
Graphite particles are <1µ and never caused damages from what I know with the Black Gold oil range.
These oils apparead in 1977 and have always been formulated with a colloidal suspension of graphite particles.
Graphite oils failed to be largely used because of the dark colour, people think dark oil is used oil
MGBV8, or someone...
Can you please tell me what brand of oil you are writing about in the above post? I'm a newbie at this and doing a search for Carat-S didn't find it. Thanks!
Can you please tell me what brand of oil you are writing about in the above post? I'm a newbie at this and doing a search for Carat-S didn't find it. Thanks!
quote:Originally posted by inHaliburton:
MGBV8, or someone...
Can you please tell me what brand of oil you are writing about in the above post? I'm a newbie at this and doing a search for Carat-S didn't find it. Thanks!
http://www.marly.com/en/products/oils/black.htm
I thought I'd comment on an aspect of this ongoing issue because after reading these post and appreciating the info being conveyed there was some decent points being brought to the fore, especially regarding the makeup of synlube being that it uses some of these anti friction components ie: graphite, moly disulfide and teflon.
Before one castigate me on this subject I'd like to point out that last night while viewing the history channel and the subject being discussed had peaked my curiosity, the segment was MODERN MARVELS subject LUBRICANTS it heavily dealt with lubricating properties and there continuous evolution. Yet of particular interest a goodly amount of time was spent on three components that have some inherent lubricating properites as well as superior anti friction properites they were Graphite, Moly, teflon. And how that a few of these are being used in the lubricating industry as well as automotive.
The same three components used in this so called synlube. Very interesting to me thought I'd pass this along.
Before one castigate me on this subject I'd like to point out that last night while viewing the history channel and the subject being discussed had peaked my curiosity, the segment was MODERN MARVELS subject LUBRICANTS it heavily dealt with lubricating properties and there continuous evolution. Yet of particular interest a goodly amount of time was spent on three components that have some inherent lubricating properites as well as superior anti friction properites they were Graphite, Moly, teflon. And how that a few of these are being used in the lubricating industry as well as automotive.
The same three components used in this so called synlube. Very interesting to me thought I'd pass this along.
Did we loose the synlube guys? We've hit 7 pages and lost contact. Is it down to don't ask, don't tell. I sure wish we could get an offical spokesperson to start a dialog.
I have loosely followed the comments in this thread and I made some of the earliest posts. I stopped participating for the most part because some of the posters were more interested in batting down any possibility that SynLube was a good product rather than being willing to exchange ideas.
I have 15K+ on the SynLube I'm using and will be sending in a sample to SynLube for analysis. During that time, I've consumed only about 4 oz. of oil.
I have 15K+ on the SynLube I'm using and will be sending in a sample to SynLube for analysis. During that time, I've consumed only about 4 oz. of oil.
Are you going to use Dyson Analysis, or would that be tmi.
I will be drawing enough for two samples. The first will go to SynLube and if the results are positive, the next will go to Dyson since many here would not accept the SynLube results.
I know of a mechanic who is using this product in his chrysler sebring and has already taken two analysis and they have all come back extemely well, given he is a skeptic and his profession is an auto technician, hes accumulated I believe about 40k on the oil itself during this time he's had two analysis, his comments were that no performance issues. Vehicle is running fine.
Why don't you ask him to post the results?
quote:Why don't you ask him to post the results?
Great idea!
After 7 pages Synlube is still a mystry.
As soon as I get a moment I'll ask him by email we'll see if he wouldn't mind first I have to inform him of the great controversy over this subject matter so he'll be more inclined to do so given the overwhelming propensity of scepticism here on this board.
I'll also inform him that it'll be under stringent scrutiny by others in a quest to disprove it's effectiveness and inherent flaws.
Additionally that it seems atmosphere of open mindedness doesn necessarily permeate the board that it will be posted to.
I'll also inform him that it'll be under stringent scrutiny by others in a quest to disprove it's effectiveness and inherent flaws.
Additionally that it seems atmosphere of open mindedness doesn necessarily permeate the board that it will be posted to.
I read this stuff to gain knowledge,not for entertainment. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Hope he posts...
Man - Here we go again... didn't anyone raed my posts on page 6? Here, I'll cut and paste for you!
"There is one simple reason that Houkster is so keen on Synlube.... he owns it! Anyone who wants to go to http://www.synlube.com will readily find out that 'Miro Kefurt' is the head honcho there! He is not a user only! As he sits in his abode in Las Vegas and promotes, mainly at his computer terminal, At $32.00 per quart [liter] - he does not have to sell too may knot heads his PTFE Cocktail in order to buy his own 'Throw Away Car' - no matter what he puts in the engine! AMSOIL is just AMSOIL - it's 32 year history of growth [will top $100,000,000.00 in sales for 2005] speaks for itself! Miro has threatened to sue me several time for owning the name synlube.net, and has accused me of buying that domian in order to get his customers.........."
Now 'gsleve' mentions the History Channel's Modern Marvels one hour program last Wednesday night at 9:00 pm entitled "Lube Job" - 'The History of Modern Lubrication'. Yes, it did mention graphite, moly, and teflon.... but did you notice that they were NOT touted as being eccepted as gfood for internal combustion engines. Did you also note that 'Synlube' or 'Lube4life' which Miro Kefury [known on this board as 'Houksster' wasw not even mentioned when he will tell you on his website at http://www.synlube.com that his company pioneered the use of P-A-O base stock oil. NOW THE MODERN MARVEL PROGRAM PLAINLY STATED THAT THE PIONEER THAT STARTED SYNTHETIC OIL FOR OVER THE ROAD USE WAS NONE OTHEER THAN ALBERT J AMATUZIO, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF AMSOIL..... THEN THE PROGRAM WENT ON TO SHOW SEVERAL SHOTS OF AMSOIL'S MANUFACTURING FACILITY AND THE LABELING LINE WITH BOTTLES COMING OFF THE LINE WITH AN AMSOIL INSPECTOR TENDING THAT LINE. IT WAS QUITE A NICE ENDORCEMENT FOR AMSOIL..... as the first and the largest in the P-A-O based oils. I copied the whole program to DVD and then edited out all the commercials. If you want a copy it is FREE plus postage - if you will just send me and an email on the contact page at http://www.synlube.NET It does not take a rocket scientist so see that Kefurt's rhetoric on this board is as self serving as mine admitedly is! tlk :-)
"There is one simple reason that Houkster is so keen on Synlube.... he owns it! Anyone who wants to go to http://www.synlube.com will readily find out that 'Miro Kefurt' is the head honcho there! He is not a user only! As he sits in his abode in Las Vegas and promotes, mainly at his computer terminal, At $32.00 per quart [liter] - he does not have to sell too may knot heads his PTFE Cocktail in order to buy his own 'Throw Away Car' - no matter what he puts in the engine! AMSOIL is just AMSOIL - it's 32 year history of growth [will top $100,000,000.00 in sales for 2005] speaks for itself! Miro has threatened to sue me several time for owning the name synlube.net, and has accused me of buying that domian in order to get his customers.........."
Now 'gsleve' mentions the History Channel's Modern Marvels one hour program last Wednesday night at 9:00 pm entitled "Lube Job" - 'The History of Modern Lubrication'. Yes, it did mention graphite, moly, and teflon.... but did you notice that they were NOT touted as being eccepted as gfood for internal combustion engines. Did you also note that 'Synlube' or 'Lube4life' which Miro Kefury [known on this board as 'Houksster' wasw not even mentioned when he will tell you on his website at http://www.synlube.com that his company pioneered the use of P-A-O base stock oil. NOW THE MODERN MARVEL PROGRAM PLAINLY STATED THAT THE PIONEER THAT STARTED SYNTHETIC OIL FOR OVER THE ROAD USE WAS NONE OTHEER THAN ALBERT J AMATUZIO, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF AMSOIL..... THEN THE PROGRAM WENT ON TO SHOW SEVERAL SHOTS OF AMSOIL'S MANUFACTURING FACILITY AND THE LABELING LINE WITH BOTTLES COMING OFF THE LINE WITH AN AMSOIL INSPECTOR TENDING THAT LINE. IT WAS QUITE A NICE ENDORCEMENT FOR AMSOIL..... as the first and the largest in the P-A-O based oils. I copied the whole program to DVD and then edited out all the commercials. If you want a copy it is FREE plus postage - if you will just send me and an email on the contact page at http://www.synlube.NET It does not take a rocket scientist so see that Kefurt's rhetoric on this board is as self serving as mine admitedly is! tlk :-)
Yuppers, having read the post again, I still say what's the harm in seeing the numbers from the oil analysis of gsleves's mechanic friend?
