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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
@ iNHALIBURTON: I think and most others would agree, that 4-5 years is more then enough time for Miro to 'provide' legitimate documentation.

On the flipside of that Nucleardawg, are the users who have stated they are satisfied with Synlube, have used the product for several years and tens of thousands of miles.

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Frankly we have learned from VOA's that the product does not meet in any way, ANY claimed specs. In fact what was found is a little troubling


More tests would be more conclusive.

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Frankly the damage done by Miro/you and others have provided me with all the knowledge I need. Everything that was posted has frankly turmed off anyone to whom I have spoke with


I could retort with my opinion to that statement, but won't because it's pointless.

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Now all this information is available for all to read, and form their own opinions.


Too true!
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Frankly we have learned from VOA's that the product does not meet in any way, ANY claimed specs. In fact what was found is a little troubling


I can see none of you read the links proving the unreliability of cheap VOA/UOA tests that even Noria talked about in the above links to the articles.


I contacted by phone today DYSON ANALYSIS regarding test results and here is what the rep said reinforcing the above links about the reliability of said tests!!!!!

Various lube oils/brands will have an array of aromatic chemical compounds that on occasion will skew the results and even given false positives or negatives such as fuel and so forth. etc. There you go!!!

If you don't believe me,then call them and ask yourself......

.....1-877-808-3750 I bet no one calls!!

Guys,what did you expect spending 23 bucks for a test.

One of the links I pasted yesterday shows a test that costs $ 1,500 to very precisely measure water intrusion into the lube because the other cheaper tests are way off. So 20 bucks is useless!!

The ultimate test of a lube is what it is doing in the engine or gearbox.

My real world tests show/proves that the lube is doing exactly what the Synlube website claims to do.

My engines are the best part of the car with Synlube!!!!!!!!! NO ISSUES EVER!!!

Did I mention I have it in the differentials now as well and they run much cooler!! The front Jeep diff still has the old 75w-140 stuff installed with 14k and I could fry an egg on it after a good highway run. The rear is barley warm now as opposed to being hot like the front with the old stuff!!!! Next couple of weeks the front will be getting the Synlube 75w-90 as well.
uhhhh. Yes we saw this the first 10-20 times you posted this...We have formed our own opinion....

Feel free to post another 10-20 times...My opinion is still the same...It didn't meet it own spec on the SIMPLEST of the testing...VISCOSITY and TBN is way off.

To be honest the findings were what we expected, that Synlube could not meet that which it claimed. The tests were not done by a laboratory that is short on time or expertise.

The tests were performed by a respected Tribologist, with no horse in the running...In other words he wanted to analyze the sample, and report what was found.

The report back was Snlube did not meet ITS spec. I mean I can understand moly or other like items being somewhat off.

BUT VISCOSITY AND TBN?


well?
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Originally posted by C3PO:
One thing I do like about Miro and the Synlube Gang is that they do not give up. I may not agree with everything they say at times.

I just wish Frank Miller over at auto-rx was more like Miro, he debates with me for a few posts and then goes ahead and just runs away.

Miro is a fighter and a sly debater, Frank Miller could learn something from reading Miro's posts.

I have no connection with the oil biz other than as a consumer. I enjoy reading about it and car maintenance. Like others, Miro seems to have very broad knowledge of the auto and oil businesses.

I've previously stated that I'm using Amsoil products in my car and commercial lawn equipment. I have not tried Synlube products. As stated recently by someone in this thread, I did say I was going to have some shipped to NY state where I would pick up on my next visit to my daughter's place. I did not get around to doing that. Frankly, If I was not satisfied using Amsoil products for some reason or an other, I would consider using Synlube. I have not read anything yet that would indicate to me that the product is not a good one, except some reference to higher than normal iron in a test.

Did I understand that correctly?
I like REDLINE OIL. I run Redline in my Mustang GT and Cobra.

Redline is a proven winner. I am soon going to add the Redline D4, to the GT's automatic, while at the same time, switching out the MT fluid and gear oil, all over to Redline as well.

Redline products are excellent in my opinion, and the people I speak with at Redline, are professional and knowlegeable.
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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
@Trajan: I agree on the remark as you know to what I refer, and apologize to you. or others.

Yes the endless two step is very weird. Again I wonder what is with a 60 y/o man and his minions who...well to be blunt act like a teenagers.

I personally have never come across a company as shady...with all the manufactured 'evidence' and strange people coming out of nowhere on a 'Jihad' to attack non believers.

Again apologies for anything that may have offended. Cool


You didn't offend me Smile I just don't want to see you go down that road.

Never wrestle with a pig - you'll both get dirty, and the pig will love it
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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
I like REDLINE OIL. I run Redline in my Mustang GT and Cobra.

Redline is a proven winner. I am soon going to add the Redline D4, to the GT's automatic, while at the same time, switching out the MT fluid and gear oil, all over to Redline as well.

Redline products are excellent in my opinion, and the people I speak with at Redline, are professional and knowlegeable.


Redline is a good choice. My second favorite oil is AMSOIL. Redline is good,just curious why you chose it over Amsoil? I know the racing circuit also likes Royal Purple racing oil.
Re: Synlube VOA Attempt - Set-Up Thread [Re: bruce381]
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Loc: NENC
Bruce I just got off the phone with Polaris data analysis about the 40C, 100C and fuel. According to data analysis the fuel is inaccurate since they should not have been testing for it on a New lube reference. The machine can miss read the oil molecules as fuel. Some how the oils weight and the corresponding length of the molecular chain can effect the results, when tested a new lube can be miss read as containing fuel.

Hopefully you or Molakule understand and can explain it properly.

I noticed while on the phone with Polaris that the updated results had a lower fuel% of .1 down from .3 which is how we got on the fuel issue.

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Just wanted to further back the notion that lube analysis Labs are not perfect like was mentioned above. Makes me wonder what else did they goof up on.
LOOKS LIKE AMSOIL IS THE PROVEN WINNER ON THESE TESTS.

http://www.synthetic-motor-oil...soil-vs-redline-oil/


http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/dyno-test.php


My favorite because of longevity is synlube......however it would be interesting to see synlube in those above tests just to see how it compares with the other lubes in direct comparison. I would have to assume the colloids alone would give it a top score!!
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http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...umber=1628829&page=1

They had called the next day and I was floored when the service manager told me he had changed the oil as whatever was in there was SO SLUDGED that it sort of chunked out

And later.....

Wasn't there a guy called Houckster a year or two ago that came aboard. He was to report back on his progress with SynLube. Have anybody heard from him?


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His profile lists him as the owner of Synlube, so his opinions mean nothing. He is also on the gasbuddy.com websites, posting his Synlube infomercials in the car talk section all the time, but yet he swears up and down that he isn't the owner of Synlube
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