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I have a question with respect to the use of borate additive in gear oils and hoping to find some answers from fellow forum members.

Is the borate usually in a hydrated form i.e. does it contain a certain amount of water to keep the borate additive in suspension? I have heard that this is about 0.2% water??

Is the stability of the borate additive affected by water ingression/contamination of the gear box - how much water minimum would typically affect the stability?

Many thanks
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Dr. Ali Erdemir, a tribologist, discovered that Hydrated Boron Molecules, milled to under 1 micron (100X smaller than bacteria) form a permanent and self replenishing bond to any metal alloy thus creating a surface with a friction coefficient under 0.01. The result is an 80% reduction in surface friction and 90% reduction in component wear
Developed to treat engines, gearboxes, automatic transmission and fuel system, these one time treatments reduce surface friction and wear resulting in the extended life of the fluid system while reducing energy usage and increasing horsepower. ASTM testing resulted in reducing the surface friction coefficient under 0.01. MotorSilk™ is not an oil conditioner and does not disrupt the oils additive package. Once the Boron CLS Bond® enters the oil it begins to form a covalent bond with the metal alloy penetrating all carbon, varnish or corrosion forming a near-diamond hard boric oxide surface, thus protecting all vital working components against wear and corrosion activity. This new surface blocks oxygen and moisture to dramatically reduce the oxidation process of the lubricant. Typical applications include:

Engine Treatment
Diesel and Gas Fuel System Treatment
and Automatic Transmission treatment

Link to the above info is given below for ready reference https://www.evergreenamerica.c...083&CFTOKEN=33197881

Hussam Adeni
Some more details on the Boron CLS Bond.

The Boron CLS Bond® is based on the intricate crystal lattice structure (CLS) of the hydrated boron molecules. This lattice structure allows the layers of hydrated boron particles to slide virtually friction-free over each other, like the playing cards in a fresh deck. The emulsified hydrated boron reaches every metal surface and crevice, lifting off all carbon, varnish and corrosion while lubricating as it chemically bonds with the host material. NO other anti wear boundary lubricant can chemically bond to metal which sets this technology apart from all other boundary lubricants.

Hussam Adeni
Does anyone know if EP borate oils such as RPM Borate EP 460 have a specific temperature at which the crackle test can be run to only detect additive?
We are having issues conducting a crackle confirmation for water on these oils and were hoping there was a certain temperature we could set the hot plate to detect borate additives, say 60degrees, and a separate one for water?
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Originally posted by Hussam Adeni:
...Hydrated Boron Molecules, milled to under 1 micron (100X smaller than bacteria)
Hussam Adeni


Mr Hussam Adeni.

I must disagree with a small part of your argument, regarding the size of bacteria, i must quote:
Bacteria range in size from 0.2-2 microns in width or diameter, and up to 1-10 microns in length for the nonspherical species. The largest known bacterium is Thiomargarita namibiensis, with spheroidal diameters from 100-750 microns. Spherical bacteria as small as 50-500 nm in diameter have been reported.

Robert A. Freitas Jr., Ralph C. Merkle, Kinematic Self-Replicating Machines, Landes Bioscience, Georgetown, TX, 2004.

On the other hand, the info about the improvements on lubrication that boron gives, is really interesting, as a matter of fact i remember an article that appeared on Journal of tribology "A Pin-on-Disk Experimental Study
on a Green Particulate-Fluid Lubricant" october 2008 and other one at Tribology an lubrication technology "Boron based ionic compounds" May 2009.
Both of them, really interesting.

"Performance Profiling of Boric Acid as Lubricant in Machining" At Journal of the braz. soc. of mech. sci & eng.
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