I received a copy of the MSDS for Synlube from Miro last Friday. I have finally found time to post it to a hosting site. It is being hosted temporarily for the next 30 days.
http://freepdfhosting.com/b14d512c6c.pdf
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Information given herein is offered in good faith as accurate, but without guarantee. Conditions of use and suitability of the product for particular uses are beyond our control; the user therefore assumes all risks of use of the product and WE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL
WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Does this cancel the warranty offered on the website?
And the approval date: APPROVAL DATE: 3/19/10.
Just made?
WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Does this cancel the warranty offered on the website?
And the approval date: APPROVAL DATE: 3/19/10.
Just made?
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Information given herein is offered in good faith as accurate, but without guarantee. Conditions of use and suitability of the product for particular uses are beyond our control; the user therefore assumes all risks of use of the product and WE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL
WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Does this cancel the warranty offered on the website?
And the approval date: APPROVAL DATE: 3/19/10.
Just made?
Every company has a similar disclaimer to cover themselves for any abuse that would void the warranty. A clause is in every owners manual/contract. Why would synlube be any different??
WE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Clearly points out they don't warranty it at all.
Clearly points out they don't warranty it at all.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
WE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN RESPECT TO THE USE OR SUITABILITY OF THE PRODUCT.
Yes,that's right,IF you abuse the vehicle,...then all warranties are null and void.
That isn't what it says.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
That isn't what it says.
Trajen,I think you need to go to the synlube site and read the warranty. All your questions will be answered. What has been posted here does not suffice.
In case you forgot, I've already read it.
From your synlube lube-4-life/// RESULTS ARE HERE thread at BITOG. That long thread which showed none. Just observations.
In bright yellow letters, it says "The first oil you do NOT change." (As an aside, gotta love their Nationwide gas Price guide. So far off....)
So anyway, if this is an oil I do not change, why does the "warranty" say I have to change it every 50K miles?
And my second post on the subject.
TO KEEP THIS WARRANTY VALID, YOU MUST COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS
9.) You must replace the SynLube™ lubricants regularly:
Engine: every 50,000 miles or every 5 years*
Automatic Transmission** every: 30,000 miles or every 3 years
Manual Transmission every: 100,000 miles*
Differential(s) or Rear End every: 100,000 miles*
* this requirement may be waived by SynLube if oil sample is provided for oil analysis at this mileage interval
Can you show where it says the word option? The phrase "you have the option."
May be waived means it's up to them.
(You were saying....)
What I outlined in red in my post #2 of this thread....., well, read it again.)
And this synlube site also boasts of a RX-7 with no oil consumption........
From your synlube lube-4-life/// RESULTS ARE HERE thread at BITOG. That long thread which showed none. Just observations.
In bright yellow letters, it says "The first oil you do NOT change." (As an aside, gotta love their Nationwide gas Price guide. So far off....)
So anyway, if this is an oil I do not change, why does the "warranty" say I have to change it every 50K miles?
And my second post on the subject.
TO KEEP THIS WARRANTY VALID, YOU MUST COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS
9.) You must replace the SynLube™ lubricants regularly:
Engine: every 50,000 miles or every 5 years*
Automatic Transmission** every: 30,000 miles or every 3 years
Manual Transmission every: 100,000 miles*
Differential(s) or Rear End every: 100,000 miles*
* this requirement may be waived by SynLube if oil sample is provided for oil analysis at this mileage interval
Can you show where it says the word option? The phrase "you have the option."
May be waived means it's up to them.
(You were saying....)
What I outlined in red in my post #2 of this thread....., well, read it again.)
And this synlube site also boasts of a RX-7 with no oil consumption........
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
In case you forgot, I've already read it.
From your synlube lube-4-life/// RESULTS ARE HERE thread at BITOG. That long thread which showed none. Just observations.
In bright yellow letters, it says "The first oil you do NOT change." (As an aside, gotta love their Nationwide gas Price guide. So far off....)
So anyway, if this is an oil I do not change, why does the "warranty" say I have to change it every 50K miles?
And my second post on the subject.
TO KEEP THIS WARRANTY VALID, YOU MUST COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS
9.) You must replace the SynLube™ lubricants regularly:
Engine: every 50,000 miles or every 5 years*
Automatic Transmission** every: 30,000 miles or every 3 years
Manual Transmission every: 100,000 miles*
Differential(s) or Rear End every: 100,000 miles*
* this requirement may be waived by SynLube if oil sample is provided for oil analysis at this mileage interval
Can you show where it says the word option? The phrase "you have the option."
May be waived means it's up to them.
(You were saying....)
What I outlined in red in my post #2 of this thread....., well, read it again.)
And this synlube site also boasts of a RX-7 with no oil consumption........
Trajen, It DOES NOT say you have to change. It would be determined by an UOA done by synlube,which is what they meant by their discretion. The oil would be drained,..only if needed,.. and sent back to synlube for full credit applied to new synlube and shipped free back to the user. Repeat again at 50k again.
I don't know what else you could ask for,...then again,...knowing you,...the moon!!
last year Houckster promised me to send this lubricant for UOA but after a week, 2 weeks,..4 weeks....2months....4months..and today after one year.... nothing data for UOA, so in my opinion, for a customer who ask this UOA in this NORIA Forum or BITOG Forum it's very simple question because we are in Oil / Lubrication Forums not in "Faith and Religion Forum".....
see....
enoch
see....
enoch
It says right on the website that to keep the warranty the oil must be changed.
And yet, he insists it does not....
http://www.synlube.com/serv01.htm
Scroll about half way down to the big blue letters.
Then go to condition #9
And yet, he insists it does not....
http://www.synlube.com/serv01.htm
Scroll about half way down to the big blue letters.
Then go to condition #9
ahhaha i found in Synlube MSDS this lubricant have passed the test in Mobil Laboratory ( i saved both MSDS for comparation)ahhaahha.... 
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
It says right on the website that to keep the warranty the oil must be changed.
And yet, he insists it does not....
http://www.synlube.com/serv01.htm
Scroll about half way down to the big blue letters.
Then go to condition #9
Trajen,Did you happen to notice the asterisk?
At 50k,..synlube must be sent an oil sample(from changed filter),then.., once the UOA is done,you will be told if the oil needs to be changed or not. The oil change may very well be waived. However, If changed,you receive 100% credit for new oil shipped to you free.
We have had this exchange before,and I addressed it then!! Somehow,I suspect you did see the information in plain view and are simply doing what you do best,....be Trajen.
this requirement may be waived by SynLube if oil sample is provided for oil analysis at this mileage interval?
Do you know what the definition of may is?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/may
Do you know what the definition of may is?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/may
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
this requirement may be waived by SynLube if oil sample is provided for oil analysis at this mileage interval?
Do you know what the definition of may is?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/may
Well apparently you know what the definition of "may" is,..please tell us,..and how it relates to the synlube warranty.
Dear Captain Kirk,
Can you explain us why in Synlube MSDS this lubricant passed test from Mobil Laboratory? this is same words like MSDS from Mobil1 products....
enoch
Can you explain us why in Synlube MSDS this lubricant passed test from Mobil Laboratory? this is same words like MSDS from Mobil1 products....
enoch
How do you expect captain Kirk should be able to explain it? If you think he is the owner of Synlube, then I guess you must be full of it...
If you don't understand what the man says, that he is a USER of Synlube, then why do you still want to communicate with him?
It is obvious that you don't believe what he says, any way.
On the other hand, throwing out accusations, like you have done, is very easy.
I see that several people have decided to join, probably for fun.
I have heard rumors that Trajan is on Excon Mobiles payroll, and I think it is very hard for him to PROVE to me, otherwise.
Remember, there is very little proof, that I will accept.
You understand the problem?
You can read MSDSs intill your face turn blue, but that won't make you an expert on lubrications. At some point, you will have to at least SEE the stuff you are writing about....
It is comparable with learning to swim by taking a mail course.
And still, you claim to know everything, even without having seen the product?
That's quite amazing.
By the way, I am also a satisfied user of this product, but I only used it for two and a half year and 72000 kilometers in one car...
I really would like to see that being done with Delvac 1.
You can just call me, at 004793212261, (just to make sure that I am a real person(and not MIRO), if you don't believe what I am saying.
Of course, that is free to do for all.
I will answer if I have the time.
If you want to do a search for phone numbers around the world, it can be easily done at www.ixquick.com
If you don't understand what the man says, that he is a USER of Synlube, then why do you still want to communicate with him?
It is obvious that you don't believe what he says, any way.
On the other hand, throwing out accusations, like you have done, is very easy.
I see that several people have decided to join, probably for fun.
I have heard rumors that Trajan is on Excon Mobiles payroll, and I think it is very hard for him to PROVE to me, otherwise.
Remember, there is very little proof, that I will accept.
You understand the problem?
You can read MSDSs intill your face turn blue, but that won't make you an expert on lubrications. At some point, you will have to at least SEE the stuff you are writing about....
It is comparable with learning to swim by taking a mail course.
And still, you claim to know everything, even without having seen the product?
That's quite amazing.
By the way, I am also a satisfied user of this product, but I only used it for two and a half year and 72000 kilometers in one car...
I really would like to see that being done with Delvac 1.
You can just call me, at 004793212261, (just to make sure that I am a real person(and not MIRO), if you don't believe what I am saying.
Of course, that is free to do for all.
I will answer if I have the time.
If you want to do a search for phone numbers around the world, it can be easily done at www.ixquick.com
Here we go again with the insults. Gotta tell you that sells product, and will certainly gain you respect. Oh wait that was lost on the other site.
Kirk must really love Miro to defend a product and company the way he does. I can't wait to see if a VOA if/when it appears, or a trusted member posts a UOA on the stuff. Not likely because I doubt a respected member will actually use it. Then if a sample is sent to a respected member we'd have no idea how long the oil was in use, so we'll never see one.
If any of these reports come to be, the spin masters will be burning the midnight oil doing damage control.
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Kirk must really love Miro to defend a product and company the way he does. I can't wait to see if a VOA if/when it appears, or a trusted member posts a UOA on the stuff. Not likely because I doubt a respected member will actually use it. Then if a sample is sent to a respected member we'd have no idea how long the oil was in use, so we'll never see one.
If any of these reports come to be, the spin masters will be burning the midnight oil doing damage control.
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Well, he got run off from BITOG with his tail between his legs, so maybe he thinks his "style" will work here?
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Well, he got run off from BITOG with his tail between his legs, so maybe he thinks his "style" will work here?
LOL he did sales of Synlube well over there. Give him some time here the insults will flow and he'll help sales here as well. Could be a different kind of sales technique, lie to, then insult, and think potential customers are stupid. That lines them up wanting to buy and buy more & more product.
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