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Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
And Finally this:

Search: YUGO (all years)
Search results: No results for YUGO

Results from NHTSA FARS Data base = No result = ZERO

FARS = Fatality Analysis Reporting System


SO the quoted claim:

“3.6 occupant deaths per ten thousand cars.”

Is yet another lie propagated by the parrot of fake and false statements

PS: There is not such term as "deaths per ten thousand cars".

The term used by Government agencies (local or federal) is:

Fatalities per 100,000 Registered Vehicles

And that again is used since 1966 - the Vehicle Safety Act.

So fabricators of false claims can not even get the TERMS correct, much less the data to support them !!!

If the stated claim was TRUE the FARS returned result would have been = 59


Hmm, I looked in the FARS database.
Yugo (Vehicle Listing 57) 22 Fatalities in 1994

There were 12 Fatalities involving a Yugo in 1995.

Dave
In my experience over the years, I have learned to spot scams, especially the automotive ones, IE gas mileage devices, miracle oil, additives etc.
I will point these out. It is up to the others to research and form their own opinions.

I don't argue with idiots, morons or flim flam men on the internet for the simple fact that they will drag you down to their level and then kill you with experience.

I will say, this scammer is as brazen as they come. He has no problem misrepesenting facts and stating out-right lies. Most of the people who have walking around sence will see through him. The ones that don't are destined to be seperated from their hard earned money. Some will then learn, others will never learn. His business is built on these last few. (sad)
But the chickens always come home to roost sooner or later.

Have a good one
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
Why does the AAA test not exsist out side of a suspect website?

Why is there no link to the FTP-75 test that does not exsist outside of a suspect website?



I see the background noise is back!!!

Does anyone know where I can purchase that new tinnitus and/or TRAJEN remedy called QUIETUS?


Here we have a question, and the usual answer.
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trajan:
Why does the AAA test not exsist out side of a suspect website?

Why is there no link to the FTP-75 test that does not exsist outside of a suspect website?


I see the background noise is back!!!

Does anyone know where I can purchase that new tinnitus and/or TRAJEN remedy called QUIETUS?


quote:
Here we have a question, and the usual answer.


Trojan, your question (singular because it's aways the same) does not deserve an answer. Why? Because you are a LIAR, remember? LIARs cannot be trusted. No telling how you would distort the information.

Stupid is as stupid does.
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Yugo (Vehicle Listing 57) 22 Fatalities in 1994

There were 12 Fatalities involving a Yugo in 1995.


Thank you, please send me the link where you found this data (mirox@aol.com)

or post the link.

You are correct in the YUGO ID 57 (that is assigned to the Maker since the digital data base does not have the actual name to save data space, so if you got that right, I can assume the other information may be also correct)

However there is big difference in being involved in fatal acident and actually being in the car and die.

If you run over pedestrian, that counts as "involement" even if it is the pedestrian that dies.

That is one reason the "blown-off the bridge" incident got so much publicity as 1.) it was YUGO and 2.) the car did not hit anything 3.) the driver died. 4.) It was the first "fatality" in YUGO they could report on.

Since YUGO America closed down in 1992, I do have to admit that it is entirely possible that people started to crash and die in cars out of remorse.

I do however know that during the time YUGO was sold there were no reported fatalities. (Except the bridge incident)

So I would really like to see the link to where that data came from.

And I will be happy to adjust my information to reflect it.

My search was by vehicle MY (all years) and not by the Year or the incident, so it is entirely possible there is some data disconnect, and I would like to see the info you found.

Thanks
So the SCAMLUBERS are up to it again...Since the atrocious product they peddle, has been laughed at in discussions, in ALL forums, where it has been pushed.

Now The SCAMLUBERS wish to change the subject, and talk about the worst POS car, ever thrust upon the American public.

Nobody cares about the Yugo you BOOBS. This is the 21st century.

Since this is a discussion on SCAMLUBE we wish to discuss how crappy that product is. If you cannot discuss it, then this discussion needs to be closed.

SCAMLUBERS continue to LIE about any and all facts. But you MORONS are amusing. To watch this bogus/overpriced product fall on it's face in all discussions....PRICELESS.
Because I do not have a life, I spend all of my time on the Internet researching Synlube. Having said that, I do have to run now to our weekend Mensa meeting.

If interested in a concise version of what Sylube is and what it does (not for the faint-of-heart, though), scroll down to where you will find a post by long-time user, and former poster, Houckster, who decided not to post any longer for the same reason as Annie_Oakley, namely, some of you ran her off of the Board with ignorant and rude replies to her posts.

http://tinyurl.com/ycz42jv

Enjoy...
Yeah, at one time houckster had himself listed on bitog as the owner of synlube???

Post. by Necleardawg

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...umber=1805490&page=1

Houckster genuine?...Well yes he was member #939. And in his profile, he states he is the "owner of Synlube"...But in the (1) thread he ever commented in...His last post states that, Synlube sounds like a very interesting company, and he wishes he had an substantial amount of money to invest in it.

I just don't understand the contradiction there.

But yes the threads are good for a laugh, I will agree.
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Houckster/Miro: Whatever...You guys are whining because nobody falls for your LIES...Scamlube is a JOKE, because of the way its posters made FOOLS of themselves on each and every forum.

Take your beatings like men. "Ya bunch of cry babies"

@ Inhaliburton: Mensa? Sure...Thats the thing about the internet any MORON can claim this or that...Looking at the way you fight your battles...I'm confident...Your a Moron.
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Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
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Funny my dad bought nothing but used cars all the years I was living home. Typically 2-3 year old vehicles, he said let someone else take the money hit up front. Most of the cars he bought he kept 10-15 years, and was still able to sell them. Imagine that.


"Past performance of any Brand or Make or Model of any vehicle has virtually NO predictive ability for future long term performance of any similar vehicle"

Right out of Consumer Reports.

So are you following your fathers tire tracks ?

Let me know in 2025 if you are still driving your just bought 2007.

If you do and have over 150,000 original miles on it, contact me and I will give you $2,500 for it - 10 times its future, rather predictable value (Based of R L Polk, depreciation data)

The only thing you can predict with 100% certainty is that 10 year old vehicle has virtually no value - it has been so for 36 years in USA.

It is also documented that once the car is more than 15 years old, the annual maintenance costs exceed its value.

So again if MONEY is no object and you want to drive OLD car at per mile premium cost, you can probably do so.

690,000 people have proven that they rather have a NEW car if someone (US Congress) offers them $3,500 to $4,500 to get NEW vehicle whose average purchase price was $26,873.

Getting "off the subject" NO NOT Really -

Just offering experience that "Lube-4-Life" is really what we trademark (unlike AMSOIL's "First in Synthetics" a trademarked lie)

Longest EPA or CARB test for vehicle longevity is 150,000 miles or 15 year (equivalent) since such mileage accumulation is done in 9 months, even EPA admits the reliability of such "accelerated test" is only 45%.

That is there is 55% statistical change that 2010 NEW vehicle certified to the longest CARB PZEV will NOT last in service for that long !

Again all that information is available from NHTSA, EPA, CARB.

What we do is offer FREEDOM FROM OIL CHANGES for the duration of the "useful life" of any NEW vehicle - following the Government established guidelines and definitions of "useful life" that is except IRS as they since 1970 still hold the "useful life" of any vehicle used in Business 100% of the time as 5 years or 50,000 miles.

Any UOA are irrelevant if we absolutely Warranty any Lubricated part for the 15 years or 150,000 miles - either with 5 year or 50,000 miles or change, or provision of 4 oz of used SynLube at those intervals, which is what most customers choose, since at 5 years they have to change to Oil Filter anyway, and draining 4 oz from USED Oil filter is not such a big deal for most, even if it is done by a mechanic for them.

However NOT Changing oil is a BIG DEAL for ALL Our customers - They let us know that daily in e-mails and phone messages.

So should we listen to 68,000 customers that over the years have proven SynLube in now over 250,000 vehicles and do what we were doing since 1985 in USA, or close down the business because a dozen nay sayers that never saw a drop of our products decided it is not possible for such product to exist?

On personal level like challenges!

In 1982 when Honda Civic sold for $7,000 and people were waiting in line for one, I have proven and delivered a car that coasted $1,625 to manufacturer and 168,000 Americans Bought one - and many who did would buy another if it was available today - the YUGO.
In those days I was driving Rolls Royce Silver Shadow 1969 MY – and once I brought the first 3 YUGO to use I got dozen License frames made that said “My other car is Rolls Royce” and three more that said my other car is YUGO, that of course I put on the RR.
No one have ever seen any such plate before 1982, but since then just one company that made them sold 1.2 million of them ! Most of them I guess did not end up on a YUGO as there were not 1.2 million of them in USA, but few did, I saw some of them myself.

What Bricklin did to and with YUGO, when I sold him the distribution rights was His business, and not mine, I started the “Yugomania” – a Brand awareness that Advertising Age, listed as the most successful advertising campaign of all times, making the BRAND YUGO awareness of 98% in just 9 months, with total investment of $7,500 = equivalent to advertising campaign of $400 million dollars!
Even ALL of you have heard and know the YUGO Brand – not one person I met in last 26 years did not know YUGO, such was the impact of three little cars exhibited in 1984 – still famous after all these years…
The book ironically titled as Worst Car - already sold over 10,000 copies and the second printing is now in progress.

So quite often the "perception" does not match with reality!

62% of people in USA still think that "heavier objects fall faster" - quite logical - especially since for about 10,000 years of documented history no one ever bothered to check, it was so "obvious"!

What is sad is that in 2010 that many people are still totally ignorant of "reality"...

Just ask and do you own research!


Well lets see, Dad's 88 F-250 is going strong, my 93 Ranger seems to be doing well. If I were you I wouldn't gamble, but then again you'll never be found to pay out.

Here's a bet. How about you take your Yugo, I'll take dads 88 F-250, we'll crash them head on at 25 mph. You still want the Yugo? You make me laugh. My guess is the twin I-Beam suspension will more than likely rip the roof off the Yugo, and they'll be picking the Yugo out from under the F-250.

Yea I'll follow in dad's tire tracks any day, he's not a scam artist, he earns his money.

Once again your statistics aren't helping sell your $32 a bottle oil.

AD
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88 F-250 is going strong, my 93 Ranger


Again not paying attention to actually reading and understanding my posts.

1.) I am talking about the expected durability of 2010 MY vehicle, the component parts, etc.

2.) In all statements and post I have said that as far as I am concerned the mid-1980 the vehicles reached their peak of being overdesigned for durability and thus since then all MFG were asking suppliers to REDUCE COST.

#1 reason for COST REDUCTION in powertrain costs is to pay for the mandated safety equipment that customers do nto value but Government REQUIRES - Someone has to come up with the now $4,500 per vehicle in safety equipment - not present on 1988 HD truck !

We have lot of customers with vehicles from 1982 to 1989 that have 100,000+ and no problems

3.) Check the laws, regulations and associated fines since the 1996 when OBD II went into effect = CHECK ENGINE LIGHT

neither of your cars has it, so you would not even have a clue if you were poluting the air !!!

So again ignorance is a bliss.

#2 reason for COST REDUCTION in powertrain costs (hard parts) is to pay for the mandated emission technology as again the customer doe nto want to pay another $5,000 or $16,000 (in diesel) for that either. So plastics replace aluminium, material thickness is reduced to minimum, etc.

In USA there are no laws agains keeping old cars on the road, just agains ANY car or truck polluting the air, and older cars are proven to be as much as 25 times more polluting than 2010 MY for example. Manufacturers get fined if vehicles pollute.
Fleets in California get fined daily for not inspecting their vehicles for emissions - average fine is $35,000 and at least two companies get fined DAILY !!! And what starts in CA spreads across USA, eventually - just wait !!!

As now "voluntary" vehicle retirement programs (now in effect in CA) becomes "mandatory" and the legislation is now in works, you will not be able to keep 25 years old vehicle, unless you have a NEW ONE, and declare it "collector car" and do not drive it more than 2,500 miles annually - so the dreams of driving even restored "classic" may be soon over - WHY - because those cars creat 50 times the current legal emission limits per mile. And they create 250 time the pollution when they are "parked" as they feature NO evaporative emissions from gas tank !!!

Now you may think that you have the right to generate 10 times more CO2 than YUGO, 25 times more NOx, and 15 times more CH, but for much longer that may not be the case.

"I need to drive a sherman tank mentality" is what makes USA to slip daily into trade debt since it is necessary to fuel all those GAS burners.

I can easily make a bet with you that on $20 of fuel I will be still driving YUGO at 60 MPH, while you will be walking.

Why did you make a choice to transport your 200 lbs body in a 6,000 lb truck ? Wile getting 10 MPG on a good day with back wind ?

You could have gotten a 7 MPG rig that will run over your truck with no roof crush resistance and it could have been 14,000 lbs heavier - are you not sorry now ?

I have seen plenty of truck and SUV roll-overs on I-15 over the years, just flip over either of the vehicles in your fleet at even 25 MPH and compare it to any "car" that has 3 times more stringent safety regulations to adhere to than trucks did in 1980's or even 1993 !

Not too many people used to die when car had flat tire, but hundreds did just in FORD SUV's when that happened, as a result of that now you have Tire Pressure Monitor in every 2010 Car, truck & SUV - but you have NONE in either of your vehicles ! Are you not scared to drive on a highway ? You should be the statistics to prove that it is deadly are there !

But I see you like to live dangerously, no Driver Air Bag, no ABS, no......


You complain about $32 per liter of "refundable" investment and justify spending 5 times more for fuel than necessary and create "hazardous" waster every 3,000 miles, as that did nto cost anything ?

May be going back to high school and taking elementary math may help, then you would not have to work that hard to earn money that you indirectly send to "other" mostly unfriendly nations as a result of your OIL ADDICTIONS.
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NYS my home town has emissions inspections. These old cars either pass, fail and get fixed, or get off the road, if they fail state inspections. Millions of cars with the OBD II computer systems have logged 250,000 + miles and more with no issues, and no Synlube. You keep talking about Yugo's how many of them are still running with 200,000+ miles? Not many. They didn't have the OBD II system either. You mentioned crash safety, I brought up a point, the Yugo is a death trap. The F-250 has a purpose for my dad, a Yugo wouldn't be up to the task. You're also a bit off in the mpg stats for the F-250 as well.

Dad test drove a Yugo and knew a few people that made the mistake of buying one. MPG's sucked for such a tiny death trap, and the car had absolutely no power. I was laughing when he told me the story. Maybe you're talking about some other Yugo, but I think most people here will agree the car was absolute JUNK!

BTW how many of them actually were sold in the US? Not many. You're right just about everyone who lived in the day of the Yugo knew of them, but I would say their reputation was one of garbage, and nothing to be proud of. YMMV

AD
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
quote:
Yugo (Vehicle Listing 57) 22 Fatalities in 1994

There were 12 Fatalities involving a Yugo in 1995.


Thank you, please send me the link where you found this data (mirox@aol.com)

or post the link.

You are correct in the YUGO ID 57 (that is assigned to the Maker since the digital data base does not have the actual name to save data space, so if you got that right, I can assume the other information may be also correct)

However there is big difference in being involved in fatal acident and actually being in the car and die.

If you run over pedestrian, that counts as "involement" even if it is the pedestrian that dies.

That is one reason the "blown-off the bridge" incident got so much publicity as 1.) it was YUGO and 2.) the car did not hit anything 3.) the driver died. 4.) It was the first "fatality" in YUGO they could report on.

Since YUGO America closed down in 1992, I do have to admit that it is entirely possible that people started to crash and die in cars out of remorse.

I do however know that during the time YUGO was sold there were no reported fatalities. (Except the bridge incident)

So I would really like to see the link to where that data came from.

And I will be happy to adjust my information to reflect it.

My search was by vehicle MY (all years) and not by the Year or the incident, so it is entirely possible there is some data disconnect, and I would like to see the info you found.

Thanks


Go here:

FARS Database

Select the Query Tab ---> Select Year from the drop down (ie: 1994) click submit.

Next form Select Injury Severity, Number of Fatalities in Vehicle, and Vehicle Make. Click on Submit.

Next form, select all, and in the vehicle make section, select vehicle 57, Yugo.

Click on Univariate Tabulation.
next page, click on Submit.

The States listing will come up. Click on View Cases.... ->

From there: Vehicle number one is generally the "at fault or contributing vehicle.
Click on the vehicle number to get the vehicle data.

Click on the person number and look at the following" Person Type, Seating Position, and Injury Serverity.

Dave

Since I used to be a Traffic Homicide Investigator, I am familiar with this database and the coding that they use. If you have any questions, I may be able to help, although, I have not been active for 10 years in THI.

Dave
@ MIRO...Again nobody cares about the POS Yugo...We wish to discuss your crappy oil.

Why did SCAMLUBE have it's business license PERMANENTLY REVOKED in Nevada?

We wish to discuss the titled topic of this discussion, crappy SCAMLUBE oil.

Now that SCAMLUBE, is known all over the worldwide web as a SCAM, because of YOUR stupidty, you don't wish to discuss.....Quit being a WHIMPERING SIMP.
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Deltona_Dave


Just to thank you again, and indeed I can now find things I did not know I could before !!!

But again DATA is not 100% accurate,

like for 2003 YUGO in the initial search comes up with 1 and TX

ANd when actually looking at the report the VIN is for HONDA !!!

So someone entered the wrong "57" and it counts a YUGO !!!

Hey if I ever get nothing to do moment I am going to look up the 1994/1995 data case by case and see if it really are all YUGO or not.

THANKS I did learn someting new, so now I can trully say alt this posting was not all waste of time !

Even if it was not related to SynLube, but my other car !!!!.........

And really, really I do thank you for the INSTRUCTIONS !!!
quote:
Originally posted by snakedoctor:
Yeah, at one time houckster had himself listed on bitog as the owner of synlube???

Post.

Houckster genuine?...Well yes he was member #939. And in his profile, he states he is the "owner of Synlube"...But in the (1) thread he ever commented in...His last post states that, Synlube sounds like a very interesting company, and he wishes he had an substantial amount of money to invest in it.

I just don't understand the contradiction there.

But yes the threads are good for a laugh, I will agree.


Don't just clap your gums together, if such links exist, where are they?
quote:
Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
So the SCAMLUBERS are up to it again...Since the atrocious product they peddle, has been laughed at in discussions, in ALL forums, where it has been pushed.

Now The SCAMLUBERS wish to change the subject, and talk about the worst POS car, ever thrust upon the American public.

Nobody cares about the Yugo you BOOBS. This is the 21st century.

Since this is a discussion on SCAMLUBE we wish to discuss how crappy that product is. If you cannot discuss it, then this discussion needs to be closed.

SCAMLUBERS continue to LIE about any and all facts. But you MORONS are amusing. To watch this bogus/overpriced product fall on it's face in all discussions....PRICELESS.


Note to all: Please ignore this ignorant idiot.
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:

Again not paying attention to actually reading and understanding my posts.


Like the one that said no deaths in a Yugo?

Project Description: SynLube Lubricants Long Term Test

AAA Project Identification Number: 81

Project Number: 2002-0317-1

Where is it? Post a direct link or the doc itself so we can all read it.
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
quote:
Deltona_Dave


Just to thank you again, and indeed I can now find things I did not know I could before !!!

But again DATA is not 100% accurate,

like for 2003 YUGO in the initial search comes up with 1 and TX

ANd when actually looking at the report the VIN is for HONDA !!!

So someone entered the wrong "57" and it counts a YUGO !!!

Hey if I ever get nothing to do moment I am going to look up the 1994/1995 data case by case and see if it really are all YUGO or not.

THANKS I did learn someting new, so now I can trully say alt this posting was not all waste of time !

Even if it was not related to SynLube, but my other car !!!!.........

And really, really I do thank you for the INSTRUCTIONS !!!


Well, with roughly 56,000 fatalities a year on the highways, there is probably a 5% margin of error, especially on a Federal Database. Each Agency and State has different recording requirements. Take a look at the FBI's UCR database, there is probably a 15% margin of error on Part I crimes. The reporting officer or the Agency records division is required to enter the UCR code on each report. Errors galore.

Dave
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Originally posted by Deltona_Dave:
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
Earlier today out for the Sunday drive I saw something I haven't seem in years. A 1970 Superbird going the opposite direction.



One of MOPAR's finest of the day! That and the 'Cuda. Too bad they don't make them like that anymore today's Hemi is nothing compared to the original 426.

Dave


There are a couple of Superbirds about 15 miles from me.

In 1964 a buddy of mine bought a new 64 Fury with the 426 hemi and 4 speed. It was red. I'm sure he wishes he had it today.
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Originally posted by snakedoctor:
quote:
Originally posted by Deltona_Dave:
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
Earlier today out for the Sunday drive I saw something I haven't seem in years. A 1970 Superbird going the opposite direction.



One of MOPAR's finest of the day! That and the 'Cuda. Too bad they don't make them like that anymore today's Hemi is nothing compared to the original 426.

Dave


There are a couple of Superbirds about 15 miles from me.

In 1964 a buddy of mine bought a new 64 Fury with the 426 hemi and 4 speed. It was red. I'm sure he wishes he had it today.


The only SuperBirds in Florida are the Ricer Honda's with the Big Spoilers. Although there is a guy a few blocks from me with a 70 Challenger with the 426. Plum Crazy with a white top.

Dave
@ INHALIBURTON: Why did you take my name off the post you copy and pasted that said "HOUCKSTER GENUINE".

This post was from the "SYNLUBE 4 LIFE RESULTS ARE IN HERE" thread from BITOG a total of 17 pages. So your a member of BITOG and obviously you can look up HOUCKSTERS profile which states he is the "OWNER OF SYNLUBE"

Why do you so obviusly try to slant things?

You claim to be a member of MENSA. And you know of a bottom feeder company like SYNLUBE.

But let me understand this....You don't know what Chevron Techron is?

Your so obvious as to be comical...As in a joke.
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Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
@ Inhaliburton: You can look on BITOG, afterall your a Mensa member. You can find the info that HOUCKSTER/MIRO registered under, and you can still see the posts...But you knew that already.

And I am old enough, to know a liar and a tool...I can see YOU coming from a mile away yah BOOB.

QUIT YOUR WHINING LITTLE MAN

.

I've seen your posts over on BOB on this thread: http://tinyurl.com/yazl3py

You are polite and make some sense.

Your demeanor on here is the opposite. You are vulgar, use profanity and make little sense. This post is typical of you.

Why is that?

Regarding the HOUCKSTER/MIRO thing: I see that you, and others, insist that they are the same person. If you can't see that they are two different people, live over 1 000 miles apart, and that Houckster is simply a customer, who has provided this thread with nothing more than his personal experience with Synlube (though, granted, no test data) for several years until he was hounded to the point that he now refuses to participate in this thread (our loss, by the way), than there is little hope that anyone/anything will ever change your mind.
Inhaliburton in real life I am very polite...But when confronted with people who make a living off of lies and then attack others who believe different.

Well I like anyone else don't play your silly childish games. The questions asked were very straight forward only to be met with indignation by members of the cult.

You in particular are most humerous to me. Don't take it personally little man, AND GROW A PAIR, if you wish to post on a public forum while attacking others.

Trajan thanks for the info I hadn't checked back...It doesn't suprise me that he changed it after he was discovered and called out on it....Take care
quote:
Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
@ INHALIBURTON: Why did you take my name off the post you copy and pasted that said "HOUCKSTER GENUINE".


Huh? Don't know what you are talking about. I'm not aware of copy/past anything about you.

quote:
This post was from the "SYNLUBE 4 LIFE RESULTS ARE IN HERE" thread from BITOG a total of 17 pages. So your a member of BITOG and obviously you can look up HOUCKSTERS profile which states he is the "OWNER OF SYNLUBE"

Why do you so obviusly try to slant things?


I went over there and can find nothing in Houckster's profile that indicates your allegation.

quote:
You claim to be a member of MENSA. And you know of a bottom feeder company like SYNLUBE.


Did I say that I am a Mensa member? Nope.

quote:
But let me understand this....You don't know what Chevron Techron is?


Nope. What's your point?

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Your so obvious as to be comical...As in a joke.


Yes, I am fond of bathroom humour.
You didn't copy/paste? I guess it's just coincidence, that you quoted me word for word in the post, but conveniently left off my name.

You claim to be late for a mensa meeting in earlier posts.

Have never heard of Techron but frequent oil forums?

Like I say because of your stupidty in getting caught in lies, and hiding the truth, and then denying it when caught. I find you very comical...A grown man who is a joke, myself that's not way I choose to live, but perhaps you have a low self opinion/esteem of yourself
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