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C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
http://www.clubtitan.org/forum...dex.php/t-22432.html The following excerpt.

In summary, the iron levels are off the freaking chart. Levels like this usually indicate the start of a problem. Even is a new engine that is still breaking in.

Secondly, the TBN is absolutely horrible. How is the oil supposed to go much longer than this with just a low TBN?

This oil is supposed to be a 5w50 lubrication. Well, its not really much of a 50 weight anymore. It's nicely inside the spec for a 40 weight. And if it were still a 50 weight, the viscocity at 40 degrees would make it a 15w50. Instead, with everything combined, you have a 20w40. That's baffeling. The Viscocity Index supports this at a piss poor 142. Superior my @ss.


This oil contains sacrificial level of iron that happen to be about 79ppm. So that would indicate almost zero wear on this engine.
T trajanMember
I had a Pinto wagon. Nice little thing. Doesn't negate the fact that Pintos had a faulty design.

Why are you interested in my profile? Looking for a sugar daddy? Very indicative of your lack of focus on the subject at hand.

And in all my years, have never seen anyone who states they don't use this oil defend it with such alacrity. And by one who said he was done with this thread.

Nor have I ever seen such fanatical defense from one who states they have no stake in said oil.
I inhaliburtonMember
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And in all my years, have never seen anyone who states they don't use this oil defend it with such alacrity. And by one who said he was done with this thread.


And how many years would that be? From your posts, I'm guessing your intellect age is about 14.

quote:
Nor have I ever seen such fanatical defense from one who states they have no stake in said oil.


Using your analogy: You aren't using it either, so why are you knocking it?
A adfd1Member
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
quote:
This oil contains sacrificial level of iron that happen to be about 79ppm. So that would indicate almost zero wear on this engine.


I went to that link and tried to figure out what he meant. I thought it must have been me who was nuts. Maybe not...


Good way to cover high iron wear in a UOA? Yes/No? I mean no one saw a VOA yet, or did we?

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T trajanMember
Why knock it?

How about the lack of verifiable information anywhere? Except at a suspect site.

How about the fact that it is frowned upon, by you for example, to seek such information?

How about the constant misdirection, deflection, smoke and mirrors we get. (Explain what my profile has to do with synlube.)

The rabid resistence to any independant third party data?

The accusations that I have multiple accounts here.

The fact that, if we don't use it, we have no "authority" to discuss it? (Kind of renders this whole board useless, doesn't it.)
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R robertcMember
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
US Government spent $2.3 million on this survey; you therefore should take it seriously

...


In 2005-8 the UKs National Health service spent 12 million pounds on homepathy. Plpaus another 20 million pounds refurbishing a homeopthis hospital.

Government spending doesn't mean they spent wisely.

http://www.publications.parlia...t/cmsctech/45/45.pdf Page 10 if you care.
R robertcMember
quote:
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This oil contains sacrificial level of iron that happen to be about 79ppm. So that would indicate almost zero wear on this engine.


What?

That doesn't make any damned sense.

Why would I introduce a catalyst?

Tell you guys what. syn Lube is in Las Vegas, right?

I'm going there in the not distant future.

How about I drop by the shop with a sample bottle?

I pick a case and a bottle, I pour it into the bottle.

Miro follows me to a post office and we mail the damned thing to my prefered lab(nationally known).

I pay for the basic anlysis. The rest is at the lab for whatever someone else wishes to pay for.

Anything you can get out of 4 ounces of oil.
T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by RobertC:
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
US Government spent $2.3 million on this survey; you therefore should take it seriously

...


In 2005-8 the UKs National Health service spent 12 million pounds on homepathy. Plpaus another 20 million pounds refurbishing a homeopthis hospital.

Government spending doesn't mean they spent wisely.

http://www.publications.parlia...t/cmsctech/45/45.pdf Page 10 if you care.


http://www.heritage.org/Resear...-of-Government-Waste
I inhaliburtonMember
quote:
Why knock it? How about the lack of verifiable information anywhere? Except at a suspect site. How about the fact that it is frowned upon, by you for example, to seek such information?


Show us all where I said that I frown upon seeking verifiable information about Synlube. I'm all for it. I said I don't use the stuff because I'm satisfied with the result I'm getting from using Amsoil products in my 2005 Ford Focus with 270 000 kms. It will easily go another quarter million kms if the body doesn't rust and fall apart. I normally change oil at 30 to 45 000 kms.

Nor would I ever waste my time and money on an oil analysis. I have no issues using Amsoil products. I see no point to it. This is my second Focus with over a quarter of a million kms. Perhaps Houckster can see no benefit in an oil analysis using Synlube except to satisfy the curiosity of those on here who will never, ever use Synlube no matter what information an analysis may provide.

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How about the constant misdirection, deflection, smoke and mirrors we get. (Explain what my profile has to do with synlube.) The rabid resistence to any independant third party data? The accusations that I have multiple accounts here. The fact that, if we don't use it, we have no "authority" to discuss it? (Kind of renders this whole board useless, doesn't it.)


I don't see any resistance to 3rd party data. Where's the data? You have the same right not to support Synlube, though you don't use it, as I have to suport Synlube even though I do not use the product. I base my support of the product primarily from the positive reports of users.

Also, in my opinion, the suggestions that Houckster is in any way associated with Synlube is beyond ridiculous. How do you guys come up with this stuff. That accusation has eliminated any further useful input from Houckster.
J jonny-bMember
Also, they have accused me for BEING Miro, as well as me being a salesperson for Synlube.

They easily got away with this on "the other board", since the "sheep hird mentality" over there, is very strong.

I could have written 10 pages to why I wasn't Miro, but they would have claimed otherwise, and asked me to provide some proof.

Why don't Trajan & the Bunch start to provide some shred of proof about the accusations they throw out?

I have seen nothing yet.
B bigbearMember
All posts made by jonny-b.
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Re: teflon Oil Additives 03/09/10 12:59 PM
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Re: teflon Oil Additives 03/09/10 04:09 AM
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Re: X-1R OIL ADDITIVE Oil Additives 03/08/10 04:43 PM
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Re: teflon Oil Additives 03/08/10 07:17 AM

Jonny-b, the last time you posted on BITOG was on March 9th, it is now March 26, what happened, did someone over at BITOG give you a timeout from posting. Did you get in trouble for pushing a non sponsored product or did you attack another member.
A adfd1Member
quote:
Originally posted by jonny-b:
Also, they have accused me for BEING Miro, as well as me being a salesperson for Synlube.

They easily got away with this on "the other board", since the "sheep hird mentality" over there, is very strong.

I could have written 10 pages to why I wasn't Miro, but they would have claimed otherwise, and asked me to provide some proof.

Why don't Trajan & the Bunch start to provide some shred of proof about the accusations they throw out?

I have seen nothing yet.


I don't think you're Miro, no way. I do think you get free product from people like Miro to push different products. There's a word for that, most people know what it is.

But IMO you're certainly not Miro. You might have been Mora on the other board though. :-)

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B bigbearMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
His posts over there are fine examples of decorum.


I see we have Trajan here, jonny-b did a nice job attacking Trajan and another member named Mystic.

Jonny-b promised us a VOA on Synlube as well as a UOA on the Synlube he was using in one of his cars, I can Cut and Paste jonny-b's old posts where he said this if that is what everyone wants.

jonny-b, all you do is attack members when they ask questions and since you have not shown us a VOA and a UOA as promised, therefore I can say you have absolutely no CREDIBILITY.
A adfd1Member
quote:
Originally posted by Big Bear:
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
His posts over there are fine examples of decorum.


I see we have Trajan here, jonny-b did a nice job attacking Trajan and another member named Mystic.

Jonny-b promised us a VOA on Synlube as well as a UOA on the Synlube he was using in one of his cars, I can Cut and Paste jonny-b's old posts where he said this if that is what everyone wants.

jonny-b, all you do is attack members when they ask questions and since you have not shown us a VOA and a UOA as promised, therefore I can say you have absolutely no CREDIBILITY.



He attacked DEMARPAINT too, LOL. I wouldn't accept any report from Jonny-b.

BigBear I'll quote you "therefore I can say you have absolutely no CREDIBILITY". That my friend says it all.

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B bigbearMember
It's amazing, there is 41 pages and about 818 replies and we know very little about this Synlube Product.

I can recall seeing VOA's on just about every oil and oil additive on BITOG.

We even have VOA's on Marvel Mystery Oil and Auto-Rx.

I really thought at one point that this thread should be deleted, now I do not even think it should be locked, because anyone reading this thread would probably not even consider buying Synlube.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
quote:
This oil contains sacrificial level of iron that happen to be about 79ppm. So that would indicate almost zero wear on this engine.


I went to that link and tried to figure out what he meant. I thought it must have been me who was nuts. Maybe not...


Why not try checking the facts out before you voice your factless opinions.

The sacrificial iron is old news by now and is listed on the synlube site at around 79 ppm. The sacrificial iron is used

Why do the synlube users always get the facts first,and then make an educated statement?....this has been the pattern.

Notice how all the skeptics speak without checking out the facts first.

Your entitled to your own opinion,but not your own facts.

Good way to cover high iron wear in a UOA? Yes/No? I mean no one saw a VOA yet, or did we?

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C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Well a VOA should put this to rest once and for all, we hope. I would think the report will be honest, and revealing. I have a feeling Synlube's spin masters will quickly go to work if they don't like the report. OTOH if Synlube's claims are in fact the truth then sales should go through the roof. But I know quite a few people who still wouldn't use it even if it were free. Reason being the attacks made by the shills on Bitog. Tough job building bridges that have been destroyed.

AD
I think you have it quite the reverse. The synlube skeptics will be as usual, the spinmasters!!


Dream on Kirk. Your fighting a battle you are not going to win, give up and salvage what little business you have left with Synlube. You clearly aren't selling any oil here. I just read on the other board you guys tried selling damaged Delvac-1, nice. Could that be the foundation of Synlube, damaged Delvac, and the backyard brew added to it? Just wondering.

AD


If you were on the other board,..what is your purpose on this board,..why come here? Do you enjoy being a die hard skeptic that much?

I think your actually looking to get motivated to use synlube,..you know,..give it a try because your obviously by now more curious then skeptical!
A adfd1Member
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Well a VOA should put this to rest once and for all, we hope. I would think the report will be honest, and revealing. I have a feeling Synlube's spin masters will quickly go to work if they don't like the report. OTOH if Synlube's claims are in fact the truth then sales should go through the roof. But I know quite a few people who still wouldn't use it even if it were free. Reason being the attacks made by the shills on Bitog. Tough job building bridges that have been destroyed.

AD
I think you have it quite the reverse. The synlube skeptics will be as usual, the spinmasters!!


Dream on Kirk. Your fighting a battle you are not going to win, give up and salvage what little business you have left with Synlube. You clearly aren't selling any oil here. I just read on the other board you guys tried selling damaged Delvac-1, nice. Could that be the foundation of Synlube, damaged Delvac, and the backyard brew added to it? Just wondering.

AD


If you were on the other board,..what is your purpose on this board,..why come here? Do you enjoy being a die hard skeptic that much?

I think your actually looking to get motivated to use synlube,..you know,..give it a try because your obviously by now more curious then skeptical!


Don't flatter yourself Kirk, Snowballs will freeze in Hell before I try your junk. I bounce around from site to site like you do. Only I talk about things other than Synlube.

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C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Well a VOA should put this to rest once and for all, we hope. I would think the report will be honest, and revealing. I have a feeling Synlube's spin masters will quickly go to work if they don't like the report. OTOH if Synlube's claims are in fact the truth then sales should go through the roof. But I know quite a few people who still wouldn't use it even if it were free. Reason being the attacks made by the shills on Bitog. Tough job building bridges that have been destroyed.

AD
I think you have it quite the reverse. The synlube skeptics will be as usual, the spinmasters!!


Dream on Kirk. Your fighting a battle you are not going to win, give up and salvage what little business you have left with Synlube. You clearly aren't selling any oil here. I just read on the other board you guys tried selling damaged Delvac-1, nice. Could that be the foundation of Synlube, damaged Delvac, and the backyard brew added to it? Just wondering.

AD


If you were on the other board,..what is your purpose on this board,..why come here? Do you enjoy being a die hard skeptic that much?

I think your actually looking to get motivated to use synlube,..you know,..give it a try because your obviously by now more curious then skeptical!


Don't flatter yourself Kirk, Snowballs will freeze in Hell before I try your junk. I bounce around from site to site like you do. Only I talk about things other than Synlube.

AD


I talk about other things as well,like filter.

I am not some person who just mindlessly pours oil into his engine. I perform all my maintenance as well. I have all the tools. Brake jobs,fuel injection,tune ups,ABS,steering,detailing,etc.etc. I used to be a sun electric snap on tools rep in another life.

I have used many oils additives,etc. Some actually do work welll as claimed.

Since you just accused me of using junk!!What kind of junk do you put in your engine. What fuel do you use,and is it a top tier rated one at that?? What fuel additives are you keen on.

Use bad fuel,..and all bets are off!!

Why don't you use the Bosh distance(300% capacity) oil filter which is essentially the improved P1,all the same specs only more depth to the media,less pressure drop. Can be left on longer and filter ever smaller particulates. The P1 has too much back pressure.

I saw the filter site(s) and several others as well you refer to,..and the back pressure was an issue with the P1 especially at cold startup!! The NEW fram X2(10k filter) is actually considered to be quite good as well,... lets in more dirt at first,..certainly much better than cellulose,...not as good as the Bosch.

As you can see,..I use only the best,forget the rest!! I pay around $13-17 for an oil filter. The CM FILTER is also being considered. I am surprised no discussion on that one.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:

I am not some person who just mindlessly pours oil into his engine. I perform all my maintenance as well.



And yet, on the other place, you claim people who change their own oil haave no life.


Never made such claim. Maybe that was you who made the claim!!

There you go again as usual Trajen, making up info as you go!! I would expect nothing less!!
T trajanMember
quote:


If you look at Trajens public profile,He doesn't have one period. Occupation,...None! Who is he,....a ghost writer! Are we talking to a ghost writer. At least Miro,..myself and others have posted proudly who we are.


And here's yours:

Member Profile for Captain Kirk


Date Registered: Thu March 11 2010
Karma Title: Level 1 - 1 to 50 posts
Display Email: kirkandrosa@yahoo.com
Why did you join this forum?: I am using synlube lube-4-life and read the posts regarding this lubricant. I would like to offer my positive long term experience with this engine/drive train lubricant over the last 8 years and running.


Strange, you whine that I have no occupation, but you list none.

Or is it shilling synlube.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
quote:


If you look at Trajens public profile,He doesn't have one period. Occupation,...None! Who is he,....a ghost writer! Are we talking to a ghost writer. At least Miro,..myself and others have posted proudly who we are.


And here's yours:

Member Profile for Captain Kirk


Date Registered: Thu March 11 2010
Karma Title: Level 1 - 1 to 50 posts
Display Email: kirkandrosa@yahoo.com
Why did you join this forum?: I am using synlube lube-4-life and read the posts regarding this lubricant. I would like to offer my positive long term experience with this engine/drive train lubricant over the last 8 years and running.


Strange, you whine that I have no occupation, but you list none.

Or is it shilling synlube.


YOU like me, frequent the BITOG site where my public profile is listed which I know you already read and know. Having said that, I work for the Federal Government as a computer technician on a base as a lab Manager. What do you do sir?
V vitualmageMember
I really do not care about the oil claim, the part really ticking me off is the claim he make about such and such brand of vehicle. Is mechanical analyses and opinion are just insane; the worse is he believes them. All I can see if I read between the line is : don’t come blame me if your car have problem, its because of a bad design ,to old or to new…..Then he turn around and say :

We are really NOT and never were interested in people who are not satisfied with vehicles they purchased and have to redesign a 2 billion (on average) vehicle R&D and think that on budges for FEW $$$ they will improve on something that thousands of Engineers spend years on doing but just can not get it right !

They should in my opinion go and manufacture their own vehicles as apparently the WORLD OUT THERE needs them, since in 100+ years of manufacture no OEM can make a decent car’s

Famous Miro Quote

Well, why you bitching at the automaker saying they building bad vehicle? Bring your best example with the bmw fuel tank ,off course a dealer will change the tank ,lots of mechanics will just bypass it, install an external fuel pump ,inline fuel filter , done all under 400 with top quality part . Anyway I won’t try to teach you nothing, you live in your own little world with your own little fantasy, and you do no wrong, of course you have the ultimate wisdom and knowledge and we are fool to even question it.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
1: I made a mistake, I confused you with jonny b. hard to tell you two apart, your styles are so similar.

2: It was on this site you brought up my profile. You have a problem with it here.

If you don't like my profile on BITOG, why don't you bring it up there?


When are you going to drop the profile issue. That was one post way back and now you continue to carry it around with you. Wow,..did I strike a nerve or what!! What are you hiding anyway!

I have addressed this issue and will not respond to you if you continue with your grudge you have regarding your profile,..especially since I have revealed who and what I do on this site and the other,and you have not. At this point... this makes me just a little more credible than you.
T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
1: I made a mistake, I confused you with jonny b. hard to tell you two apart, your styles are so similar.

2: It was on this site you brought up my profile. You have a problem with it here.

If you don't like my profile on BITOG, why don't you bring it up there?


When are you going to drop the profile issue. That was one post way back and now you continue to carry it around with you. Wow,..did I strike a nerve or what!! What are you hiding anyway!

I have addressed this issue and will not respond to you if you continue with your grudge you have regarding your profile,..especially since I have revealed who and what I do on this site and the other,and you have not. At this point... this makes me just a little more credible than you.


Just playing your game old boy. But it's too easy. Bored now.

But the question remains. One you have failed to answer. Since it has no relevance to the subject at hand, why bring it up in the first place.
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C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by vitual_mage:
I really do not care about the oil claim, the part really ticking me off is the claim he make about such and such brand of vehicle. Is mechanical analyses and opinion are just insane; the worse is he believes them. All I can see if I read between the line is : don’t come blame me if your car have problem, its because of a bad design ,to old or to new…..Then he turn around and say :

We are really NOT and never were interested in people who are not satisfied with vehicles they purchased and have to redesign a 2 billion (on average) vehicle R&D and think that on budges for FEW $$$ they will improve on something that thousands of Engineers spend years on doing but just can not get it right !

They should in my opinion go and manufacture their own vehicles as apparently the WORLD OUT THERE needs them, since in 100+ years of manufacture no OEM can make a decent car’s

Famous Miro Quote

Well, why you bitching at the automaker saying they building bad vehicle? Bring your best example with the bmw fuel tank ,off course a dealer will change the tank ,lots of mechanics will just bypass it, install an external fuel pump ,inline fuel filter , done all under 400 with top quality part . Anyway I won’t try to teach you nothing, you live in your own little world with your own little fantasy, and you do no wrong, of course you have the ultimate wisdom and knowledge and we are fool to even question it.


So, you're just a little ticked off?? What your saying now is,....it's personal!

This board is not about your grudges,it's about lubrication/filtration and the science that goes with it! It's about personal experience that some of us have with various products that we choose to bring to the table,Oil,filters,etc. for discussion. If the only thing you can bring to this forum is a personal grudge and nothing else,...think again!! If your a skeptic,or just don't believe,say so,.. and so be it. Anything more is overkill and even offensive.

If you have never used synlube and don't ever plan to for whatever reason,..so be it,that's your call. Keep using your favorite lube/filter and be done with it!!

Myself, and many others are using synlube and already know it works, and now we are trying to find out just how good and how far this product can be pushed. Who drove with it the longest and so forth!! This is how the information you all claim to thirst for is obtained...yet know one seems to get that. I went around 65,000 miles/ six years so far and no problem. There are synlube users on both boards,and more to come. The skeptics just disrespect and mock just for amusement in many cases.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
@The good Capatain: Blah Blah Blah. Your like a doll with a pull string. You have nothing important, or believable to say.

I bet your the life of the Synlube parties. Your product is crap, and your full of the same.


Ok nuclear man. Enlighten us with something we don't already know!! Now I just pulled your string!!
T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:


This board is not about your grudges,it's about lubrication/filtration and the science that goes with it!
.


We have yet to see the science. A VOA. Verifiable data by a disinterested third party.

Lots of nonsense about meds directed to tribologists from the poster who claimed to be the owner.

Even more diatribes about flat earth, Aristotle, posters with multiple accounts, et al from the president of the company. Claims of tests done, but no links to the ones who ran it. Like the AAA one I asked about.

And even more from the acolytes. Loads of misdirection, deflection, what have you.

42 pages. And not any extraordinary evidence to back the extraordinary claims.

I made my ruling pages ago. I see no reason to change it.
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N nucleardawgMember
My Dear Captain,

Anything you say to me, or about me, would not concern me in the least. Synlube, is a nothing in the oil industry, of no consequence to anyone in it, much less me.

The only reason we respond to your inane rants, as it allows anybody, who for whatever reason may consider this product, to see what type of company it is dealing with. The trolls who attack the 'non-believer' this is the lasting impression of Synlube. Oh and the amusement factor with these boobs, is up there as well.

Apparently Synlube is so low rent as to allow such people/person to speak in it's behalf, and pleads it's case. ANY reputible firm would not allow such dirty laundry to be aired for ALL to see.

You have made unbelievable claims and statements which have no basis in fact. You are Synlube's worst enemy, as...well to be honest, you seem quite ignorant of seeing this. You claim to be retired so I assume older...But your not to smart.

The truth is about to be told about your product. Then these threads will be locked. But SYNLUBE'S UNPROFESSIONALISM, will be here for all to read.

Many thanks to the moderators, of this site for allowing this thread, to stay open as long as it has. The ONE good thing is, that upcoming tests will show Synlube, to be what we all new it to be...A FRAUD.
T trajanMember
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...wflat&Number=1833574

a 1988 Ford Escort with 506K+ miles still running on the original 1.9L engine (never rebuilt) and 4 speed manual transmission. It currently uses a quart of oil about every 1000-1200 miles. This just goes to show you that with proper maintenance a car will last for many miles/years. I've been using 10w40 conventional oil in it most of it's life....
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A annieoakleyMember
quote:
Originally posted by Nucleardawg:
My Dear Captain,

Anything you say to me, or about me, would not concern me in the least. Synlube, is a nothing in the oil industry, of no consequence to anyone in it, much less me.

The only reason we respond to your inane rants, as it allows anybody, who for whatever reason may consider this product, to see what type of company it is dealing with. The trolls who attack the 'non-believer' this is the lasting impression of Synlube. Oh and the amusement factor with these boobs, is up there as well.

Apparently Synlube is so low rent as to allow such people/person to speak in it's behalf, and pleads it's case. ANY reputible firm would not allow such dirty laundry to be aired for ALL to see.

You have made unbelievable claims and statements which have no basis in fact. You are Synlube's worst enemy, as...well to be honest, you seem quite ignorant of seeing this. You claim to be retired so I assume older...But your not to smart.

The truth is about to be told about your product. Then these threads will be locked. But SYNLUBE'S UNPROFESSIONALISM, will be here for all to read.

Many thanks to the moderators, of this site for allowing this thread, to stay open as long as it has. The ONE good thing is, that upcoming tests will show Synlube, to be what we all new it to be...A FRAUD.


Hello to all the demeaning non-believers. I have been reading all of the posts and can't believe all the disrespect shown to captain kirk over his personal experience with synlube lube-4-life that I to have been using for nine years and counting.

I am not here to voice my opinion. I use synlube and it works as the synlube website claims.

I know from actual experience,not uneducated OPINIONS!

If you've used synlube then you can offer your input!!

Your approach has been only to demean people on a personal level!

Your ignorance is appalling!

I have more respect for captain kirk and the way he addressed this thread regarding synlube.

Nucleardawg or whatever you call yourself. I think you have been getting a little too much radiation at your job that is affecting your moral judgement!
A annieoakleyMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...wflat&Number=1833574

a 1988 Ford Escort with 506K+ miles still running on the original 1.9L engine (never rebuilt) and 4 speed manual transmission. It
currently uses a quart of oil about every 1000-1200 miles. This just goes to show you that with proper maintenance a car will last for many miles/years. I've been using 10w40 conventional oil in it most of it's life....


My husband did the same thing years ago with a a buick,big deal! We had to change the oil constantly,and add oil every five days. He drove constantly with that car.

Synlube solves all those issues and the car does not use oil with synlube if you install it before the car is worn out or new which is what we did.
T trajanMember
It does? So the RX-7 never used oil? You know, the one on that site?

So what did those oil metering jets spray into the chambers?

Need more than your "experience" to convince me.

If you don't like, what was that, "demeaning" posts, or "disrespect" it would serve you well to check the posts of your leader miro/kurk/houckster.

BTW, if you don't think people have the right to offer input on a product that makes extraordinary claims, but can't back then up, because they don't use it, you are in the wrong place. You've been too close to a leaky warp core.
A annieoakleyMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
It does? So the RX-7 never used oil? You know, the one on that site?

So what did those oil metering jets spray into the chambers?

Need more than your "experience" to convince me.

If you don't like, what was that, "demeaning" posts, or "disrespect" it would serve you well to check the posts of your leader miro/kurk/houckster.

BTW, if you don't think people have the right to offer input on a product that makes extraordinary claims, but can't back then up, because they don't use it, you are in the wrong place. You've been too close to a leaky warp core.


I don't care about you or your beliefs,or opinions! You have already made up your negative mind. You don't and won't use it,so go away!!

I am here to back the product and state that I am using it and very satisfied. Who cares about some mazda rx7 that was likely keyed in wrong. What about all the other cars,fleet users,and people like me on that site that are using the product with excellent results.

Why does synlube annoy you at all? You have no desire to even consider the synlube let alone try synlube so why do you continue with harrassing and lambasting those that are using synlube and very satisfied!

I think you are just playing and toying with the people using synlube to be some sort of devils advocate,a wise guy! I can see you are not anything more than just that,a wise guy!

Don't knock a product if you never used and don't have the experience of the results!!!
A adfd1Member
Wow another Synlube user! Typical MO of a Synlube user, name calling in just 3 posts. Way to go!

You are doing this product wonders, keep up the great work! Takes more than an opinion to sell product, we want facts. Not some bogus testimony. Sorry no facts, no believers.

True knowledgeable car enthusiasts are a tough bunch to sell snake oil to, I'd try a different group.

AD
T trajanMember
43 pages, and still, nothing beyond the shrill cries of the cult.

Young lady, perhaps you should try providing some reputable information. Yes, I know, you're hoping that your shrill cauterwalling will drown out that you have none. But you will fail.

I see you did not take my advice and peruse through your fellow cultist comments.

You see, my young child with much to learn. I don't need to use this to know it's crap.

The engine that seized because of this rotten oil on a neighbor's 2007 Z4 is all the proof I need.
A annieoakleyMember
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Wow another Synlube user! Typical MO of a Synlube user, name calling in just 3 posts. Way to go!

You are doing this product wonders, keep up the great work! Takes more than an opinion to sell product, we want facts. Not some bogus testimony. Sorry no facts, no believers.

True knowledgeable car enthusiasts are a tough bunch to sell snake oil to, I'd try a different group.

AD


You just started with name calling. Using your words,bogus,snake oil,junk,scam,snake oil,and so forth.

I double checked the other negative posts,and wise guy was actually generous!!

It's very obvious who is doing all the name calling.

I am not here to sell oil,I use it,I don't sell it. If you are so knowledgeable then what do you have to offer.

What kind of group is this anyway!

If you don't accept my testimony,that's your decision.

I am very happy with how my cars are running nine years on synlube.

Plenty Good enough for me!! And Good Night to that!!
V vitualmageMember
Obviously the average user of synlube dont use Internet much,who would order to such a web-page,but suddenly they manage to find the bord and the proper channel ,its great .Now why none of you can provide us with a store location this is THE question where do we go to buy that product?Why cant the owner get credit card validation like verisign or paypal at least.
A annieoakleyMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
43 pages, and still, nothing beyond the shrill cries of the cult.

Young lady, perhaps you should try providing some reputable information. Yes, I know, you're hoping that your shrill cauterwalling will drown out that you have none. But you will fail.

I see you did not take my advice and peruse through your fellow cultist comments.

You see, my young child with much to learn. I don't need to use this to know it's crap.

The engine that seized because of this rotten oil on a neighbor's 2007 Z4 is all the proof I need.


Mr Trajen. I submit to you that you just fabricated the neighbor with the z4. The synlube is 100% guaranteed. IF that were true,your imaginary friend would have a new engine for free. Post the insurance claim for that engine. Prove to the viewers you are not just fabricating information. What claim adjuster looked at the car to determine the oil was at fault. What lawsuit? Court case? Show the proof!!

That post you just made is going to prove you are disengenous. I can almost guarantee you just made up that story to serve your twisted agenda. This is the first post you made after 43 pages mentioning a damaged engine, proving your story is made up!!
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A adfd1Member
quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Wow another Synlube user! Typical MO of a Synlube user, name calling in just 3 posts. Way to go!

You are doing this product wonders, keep up the great work! Takes more than an opinion to sell product, we want facts. Not some bogus testimony. Sorry no facts, no believers.

True knowledgeable car enthusiasts are a tough bunch to sell snake oil to, I'd try a different group.

AD


You just started with name calling. Using your words,bogus,snake oil,junk,scam,snake oil,and so forth.

I double checked the other negative posts,and wise guy was actually generous!!

It's very obvious who is doing all the name calling.

I am not here to sell oil,I use it,I don't sell it. If you are so knowledgeable then what do you have to offer.

What kind of group is this anyway!

If you don't accept my testimony,that's your decision.

I am very happy with how my cars are running nine years on synlube.

Plenty Good enough for me!! And Good Night to that!!


You read through 43 pages and determined I/we started the name calling. Sorry Annie that started long before I entered this thread. Did you read on Bitog? Who started the name calling there?

Keep up with the side step shuffle Annie and company. This group wants facts, not Wow Synlube is great because you and less than a few friends said it was good.

When you guys can show proof maybe you'll get a little respect. Until then expect more of the same treatment and replies. You guys brought this on. If you can't handle the fire time to get out of the flame.
V vitualmageMember
annie_oakley

Answer me that and be honest,

Would you buy from a shop with an unknown location?
Would you buy from someone who refuses to give is real business location?
Would you get your credit card number to a stranger?
Would you Give your credit card on a site knowing a 10 year old scrip kiddies ( wanabee hackers ) could get your number and quite easily ?
Would you buy something from someone without any proof?
Would you buy from someone who pretend is product was use in area 51?
A annieoakleyMember
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Wow another Synlube user! Typical MO of a Synlube user, name calling in just 3 posts. Way to go!

You are doing this product wonders, keep up the great work! Takes more than an opinion to sell product, we want facts. Not some bogus testimony. Sorry no facts, no believers.

True knowledgeable car enthusiasts are a tough bunch to sell snake oil to, I'd try a different group.

AD


You just started with name calling. Using your words,bogus,snake oil,junk,scam,snake oil,and so forth.

I double checked the other negative posts,and wise guy was actually generous!!

It's very obvious who is doing all the name calling.

I am not here to sell oil,I use it,I don't sell it. If you are so knowledgeable then what do you have to offer.

What kind of group is this anyway!

If you don't accept my testimony,that's your decision.

I am very happy with how my cars are running nine years on synlube.

Plenty Good enough for me!! And Good Night to that!!


You read through 43 pages and determined I/we started the name calling. Sorry Annie that started long before I entered this thread. Did you read on Bitog? Who started the name calling there?

Keep up with the side step shuffle Annie and company. This group wants facts, not Wow Synlube is great because you and less than a few friends said it was good.

When you guys can show proof maybe you'll get a little respect. Until then expect more of the same treatment and replies. You guys brought this on. If you can't handle the fire time to get out of the flame.


That was a rather weak response to my request. The fact is,as I have stated before,I have been using synlube long enough to know it works and I am more than satisfied.

I don't need to show proof because I am not on trial. If you want the proof that synlube works then find out for yourself like I did and others have. IF your refuse to try synlube,then you have nothing to say because this is a forum not a court house.

The real proof is when you know for yourself how well synlube works after you have tried it. You are the kind of person who would be last to try anything because you won't be satisfied until the whole planet tries it first before you. Enough said,I have spoken my piece on this thread.

The rest is up to you. I am done wasting my precious time with this group. I will not continue responding to someone/group with a deaf ear! You don't want to listen, Your Loss! Bye!
A adfd1Member
quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Wow another Synlube user! Typical MO of a Synlube user, name calling in just 3 posts. Way to go!

You are doing this product wonders, keep up the great work! Takes more than an opinion to sell product, we want facts. Not some bogus testimony. Sorry no facts, no believers.

True knowledgeable car enthusiasts are a tough bunch to sell snake oil to, I'd try a different group.

AD


You just started with name calling. Using your words,bogus,snake oil,junk,scam,snake oil,and so forth.

I double checked the other negative posts,and wise guy was actually generous!!

It's very obvious who is doing all the name calling.

I am not here to sell oil,I use it,I don't sell it. If you are so knowledgeable then what do you have to offer.

What kind of group is this anyway!

If you don't accept my testimony,that's your decision.

I am very happy with how my cars are running nine years on synlube.

Plenty Good enough for me!! And Good Night to that!!


You read through 43 pages and determined I/we started the name calling. Sorry Annie that started long before I entered this thread. Did you read on Bitog? Who started the name calling there?

Keep up with the side step shuffle Annie and company. This group wants facts, not Wow Synlube is great because you and less than a few friends said it was good.

When you guys can show proof maybe you'll get a little respect. Until then expect more of the same treatment and replies. You guys brought this on. If you can't handle the fire time to get out of the flame.


That was a rather weak response to my request. The fact is,as I have stated before,I have been using synlube long enough to know it works and I am more than satisfied.

I don't need to show proof because I am not on trial. If you want the proof that synlube works then find out for yourself like I did and others have. IF your refuse to try synlube,then you have nothing to say because this is a forum not a court house.

The real proof is when you know for yourself how well synlube works after you have tried it. You are the kind of person who would be last to try anything because you won't be satisfied until the whole planet tries it first before you. Enough said,I have spoken my piece on this thread.

The rest is up to you. I am done wasting my precious time with this group. I will not continue responding to someone/group with a deaf ear! You don't want to listen, Your Loss! Bye!


You're right you're not on trial. Truth is I/we don't have to believe you, or your Synlube shills either. This little discussion can go on forever. If you guys want to sell product we want to see proof. Not bells, whistles, smoke and mirrors. Sorry, you won't be selling me on Synlube anytime soon!

AD
A adfd1Member
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Wow another Synlube user! Typical MO of a Synlube user, name calling in just 3 posts. Way to go!

You are doing this product wonders, keep up the great work! Takes more than an opinion to sell product, we want facts. Not some bogus testimony. Sorry no facts, no believers.

True knowledgeable car enthusiasts are a tough bunch to sell snake oil to, I'd try a different group.

AD


You just started with name calling. Using your words,bogus,snake oil,junk,scam,snake oil,and so forth.

I double checked the other negative posts,and wise guy was actually generous!!

It's very obvious who is doing all the name calling.

I am not here to sell oil,I use it,I don't sell it. If you are so knowledgeable then what do you have to offer.

What kind of group is this anyway!

If you don't accept my testimony,that's your decision.

I am very happy with how my cars are running nine years on synlube.

Plenty Good enough for me!! And Good Night to that!!


You read through 43 pages and determined I/we started the name calling. Sorry Annie that started long before I entered this thread. Did you read on Bitog? Who started the name calling there?

Keep up with the side step shuffle Annie and company. This group wants facts, not Wow Synlube is great because you and less than a few friends said it was good.

When you guys can show proof maybe you'll get a little respect. Until then expect more of the same treatment and replies. You guys brought this on. If you can't handle the fire time to get out of the flame.


That was a rather weak response to my request. The fact is,as I have stated before,I have been using synlube long enough to know it works and I am more than satisfied.

I don't need to show proof because I am not on trial. If you want the proof that synlube works then find out for yourself like I did and others have. IF your refuse to try synlube,then you have nothing to say because this is a forum not a court house.

The real proof is when you know for yourself how well synlube works after you have tried it. You are the kind of person who would be last to try anything because you won't be satisfied until the whole planet tries it first before you. Enough said,I have spoken my piece on this thread.

The rest is up to you. I am done wasting my precious time with this group. I will not continue responding to someone/group with a deaf ear! You don't want to listen, Your Loss! Bye!


You're right you're not on trial. Truth is I/we don't have to believe you, or your Synlube shills either. This little discussion can go on forever. If you guys want to sell product we want to see proof. Not bells, whistles, smoke and mirrors. Sorry, you won't be selling me on Synlube anytime soon!

BTW See ya..........Less bandwidth wasted on responding to you. Have a great day!

AD
I inhaliburtonMember
quote:
You're right you're not on trial. Truth is I/we don't have to believe you, or your Synlube shills either. This little discussion can go on forever. If you guys want to sell product we want to see proof. Not bells, whistles, smoke and mirrors. Sorry, you won't be selling me on Synlube anytime soon!ADUS Navy. Helping keep us safe.


SHILL
1. a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.

2.a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.

There you go again. Bad mouthing, mud slinging anyone who dares to simply say that they are a user and is happy using the product. How could you possibly name call annie_oakley based on her use of the product? You are truly ignorant.

You behave as though you are a teenybopper. Got kids? Hope not, because with your guidance, they will end up becoming as ignorant as yourself.
A adfd1Member
People are accustomed to dealing with big oil companies, seeing spec sheets, data, tests etc. Dealing with a business with a location, with a staff, a real company. Then there is science that backs up certain known facts within the oil industry. As far as we can tell, experts included, oil must be changed. This way dirt, wear metals, contaminants, etc. can be removed, and additives replenished. Enter Synlube telling us this is all BS, and companies like XOM, Shell etc know nothing. OK then Synlube needs to prove them wrong in a big way, not with testimony, but real proof. Synlube is an unknown who decided to try and sell product via these boards, and got called out.

When Synlube was asked questions here it seems Synlube feels the word of a few people, quite possibly the same person's word should be taken as Gospel. These guys ain't buying it, hence 43 pages of BS, 75% could have been avoided by answering questions vs, the smoke screen.

BTW I did not start the name calling, that happened long, long ago.

Have you tried the product?

AD
E enochcaMember
Dear Ms. Annie,
i have a question to you, after 9 years with this stuff in your car, did you sent it back to Synlube for analysis this used oil...thanks, awaiting your reply.
enoch


quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Wow another Synlube user! Typical MO of a Synlube user, name calling in just 3 posts. Way to go!

You are doing this product wonders, keep up the great work! Takes more than an opinion to sell product, we want facts. Not some bogus testimony. Sorry no facts, no believers.

True knowledgeable car enthusiasts are a tough bunch to sell snake oil to, I'd try a different group.

AD


You just started with name calling. Using your words,bogus,snake oil,junk,scam,snake oil,and so forth.

I double checked the other negative posts,and wise guy was actually generous!!

It's very obvious who is doing all the name calling.

I am not here to sell oil,I use it,I don't sell it. If you are so knowledgeable then what do you have to offer.

What kind of group is this anyway!

If you don't accept my testimony,that's your decision.

I am very happy with how my cars are running nine years on synlube.

Plenty Good enough for me!! And Good Night to that!!


You read through 43 pages and determined I/we started the name calling. Sorry Annie that started long before I entered this thread. Did you read on Bitog? Who started the name calling there?

Keep up with the side step shuffle Annie and company. This group wants facts, not Wow Synlube is great because you and less than a few friends said it was good.

When you guys can show proof maybe you'll get a little respect. Until then expect more of the same treatment and replies. You guys brought this on. If you can't handle the fire time to get out of the flame.


That was a rather weak response to my request. The fact is,as I have stated before,I have been using synlube long enough to know it works and I am more than satisfied.

I don't need to show proof because I am not on trial. If you want the proof that synlube works then find out for yourself like I did and others have. IF your refuse to try synlube,then you have nothing to say because this is a forum not a court house.

The real proof is when you know for yourself how well synlube works after you have tried it. You are the kind of person who would be last to try anything because you won't be satisfied until the whole planet tries it first before you. Enough said,I have spoken my piece on this thread.

The rest is up to you. I am done wasting my precious time with this group. I will not continue responding to someone/group with a deaf ear! You don't want to listen, Your Loss! Bye!
T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
43 pages, and still, nothing beyond the shrill cries of the cult.

Young lady, perhaps you should try providing some reputable information. Yes, I know, you're hoping that your shrill cauterwalling will drown out that you have none. But you will fail.

I see you did not take my advice and peruse through your fellow cultist comments.

You see, my young child with much to learn. I don't need to use this to know it's crap.

The engine that seized because of this rotten oil on a neighbor's 2007 Z4 is all the proof I need.


Mr Trajen. I submit to you that you just fabricated the neighbor with the z4. The synlube is 100% guaranteed. IF that were true,your imaginary friend would have a new engine for free. Post the insurance claim for that engine. Prove to the viewers you are not just fabricating information. What claim adjuster looked at the car to determine the oil was at fault. What lawsuit? Court case? Show the proof!!

That post you just made is going to prove you are disengenous. I can almost guarantee you just made up that story to serve your twisted agenda. This is the first post you made after 43 pages mentioning a damaged engine, proving your story is made up!!


Ummm, captain, I see you still can't spell. Miro can't spell either.

Oh, BTW, can you explain just how I could of posted this 43 pages ago when ...

I wasn't here 43 pages ago.

Oh, also show where I said anything about a lawsuit? Or insurance claim. Since it is not a matter of insurance, what need would there be for a claims adjuster? (I dealt with one after an accident. Poor guy ended up getting fired.)

Court case? Where did I say that?

Also, show that any car maker is obligated to honor a warranty when the owner disregards the warranty?
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E enochcaMember
Dear Trajan,
Captain said you must buy this product for the 1st time to prove this lubricant works, so i have a question to Trajan, can you buy this product and test this product? and for Miro can you send this if Trajan would order from u?
If i lived in US i will buy this.
thanks, enoch


The real proof is when you know for yourself how well synlube works after you have tried it. You are the kind of person who would be last to try anything because you won't be satisfied until the whole planet tries it first before you. Enough said,I have spoken my piece on this thread.

The rest is up to you. I am done wasting my precious time with this group. I will not continue responding to someone/group with a deaf ear! You don't want to listen, Your Loss! Bye!
A adfd1Member
Maybe I'm missing something here. Why is it the consumer has to prove Synlube works, and with their cash? The Synlube should prove to the consumer the product works, answer questions, and provide data to back up claims. So far 44 pages later nothing has been provided or proven, other than claims made by a salesman.

My dad is a business man uses a lot of different products, many times he is given products to try, especially if he doubts the mfg claims. If he likes them he buys more and recommends the stuff, if he doesn't like the product he doesn't buy or recommend it.

Here Synlube is asking us to buy the product to prove if it works. No way. My guess is Synlube is after every sale possible and afraid to give samples out to long time members here or on Bitog. Remember Synlube is the company making off the wall claims, we are looking for real proof.

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T trajanMember
Dear synlube pushers.

This is the engine that my car uses. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/sho...=11_2226&hg=11&fg=05

Send me a certified check for the price of a new engine + about $1-2000 for the labor to install it, and I'll use synlube.

You want me to buy the product, take the risk to do your job, you provide the test bed. And yes, it has to be a new engine to qualify for your warranty.

I'll even pony up the money for a Dyson Lab UOA test every 50K miles.

Your move.
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M mirokefurtMember
Can you get your heads out of the sand ?

How many times I have to post the same thing ???

http://www.synlube.com/PR201001.htm
http://lube4life.com/press.htm
http://lube4life.com/pr02.htm

FORD, KIA, AAA, BERTONE are the proofs as well as FTP-75 tests.

Show me one lifetime sequence (FTP-75 test) for any oil available in USA !!!

I have yet to see one, so if you want a proof why does SHELL, MOBIL, EXXON, AMSOIL not have one ??? It should be easy for multi billion company to run few FTP-test and have someone drive for 100,000 miles in any vehicle !

Why has that never been done ?

VOA is on FRESH OIL, that does not prove anything as far as performance, durability, wear or anything else. Or even that it is "motor oil".

Do not believe me ? Just do VOA on Oilve Oil ...
M mirokefurtMember
The use of SynLube™ Lube4Life® Functional Fluids not only eliminated most of the routine maintenance, but also contributed to reliable vehicle life without performance degradation in fuel economy or exhaust emissions.

The cars fuel economy was constantly monitored by the staff of Automobile Club owned Automotive Research Center in Diamond Bar, California. It remained unchanged throughout the test at 19-MPG City & 32-MPG Highway.

Vehicle's environmental impact was also substantially reduced, not only because no used waste oil was generated, but also because exhaust emission levels even at 100,000 total odo miles are still maintained well below the levels required for new 2001 model vehicles.


This fact was verified by performance of several emission tests as specified in Code of Federal Regulations section 40 Part 86 and part 600, immediately before and after SynLube™ Lube4Life® products installation (16,532 miles and 16,996 miles respectively) as well at 49,126; 74,021 and 100,180 total miles on the vehicle.


Done at AAA Lab and resuts are on file with EPA.

Where is the same thing form your Oil you are using now ?

Funny you are actually using in you vehicles lubricant that has NO WARRANTY, NO GUARANTEE and NO PERFORMENCE VERIFICATION TEST.

KEEP on !!!

Also funny that you can not find Mercury, NV on your google searches either.

Show me the location were ExxonMobil makes "syntehtic" oil - !!!
M mirokefurtMember
quote:
The engine that seized because of this rotten oil on a neighbor's 2007 Z4 is all the proof I need.


Every vehicle that uses SynLube has its own database.

So provide VIN#

Or ZIP CODE

Or Last Name

and 15 seconds later we can tell you all about any vehicle, obviously you have made that story up just like about 10 other stories ...

Is BIG OIL paying you do discredit "SynLube"

MUST BE.
B bigbearMember
Miro, any thoughts on bruce381's ability to do or interpret Oil Analysis.

Whatever happened to you sending a Used oil sample of your Synlube to Terry Dyson.

Why not let Terry Dyson tour your garage where you mix up Delvac 1 5W-40 with some Lubro-Moly and whatever else you use.

Can you post a pic of the Synlube Facility for us too see, we'll give you time to pull your car out of the garage so you can give us some nice pics.
B bigbearMember
quote:
Originally posted by Big Bear:
Miro, any thoughts on bruce381's ability to do or interpret Oil Analysis.

Whatever happened to you sending a Used oil sample of your Synlube to Terry Dyson.

Why not let Terry Dyson tour your garage where you mix up Delvac 1 5W-40 with some Lubro-Moly and whatever else you use.

Can you post a pic of the Synlube Facility for us too see, we'll give you time to pull your car out of the garage so you can give us some nice pics.


Miro, are you going to answer me, or are you going to keep ignoring me, if you choose not to answer my questions then there is no reason for anyone reading this to buy your product.

You are not doing very well in this THREAD.
M mirokefurtMember
Trajan

quote:
This is the engine that my car uses. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/sho...=11_2226&hg=11&fg=05


Inferrior disposable design !!!

DONT YOU KNOW ?

Attention!
Aluminum screws may only be used once.

How many FORD or GM, CHRYSLER, FIAT, YUGO, HONDA, KIA, TOYOTA, NISSAN,.... engines have screws that can be only used ONCE ?

Get a life and buy a decent car !!!

So now it is clear you are one of the few disgruntled BMW "high-mileage" owners whom we told that SynLube is not for you because your vehicle is just past its useful life.

Things will inevitable break and we do not want you to blame SynLube for what is just a matter of time - demise of a vehicle that is designed to be RECYCLEABLE and NOT DURABLE !!!

Have you noticed that if you have more than 5 years on your BMW - BMW does not want you as a customer either ?

Ever wondered why the FREE maintenance and FREE everything just stops at 50,000 miles ???

You suppose to buy/lease a NEW BMW, and you are upset at SynLube for telling you the TRUTH about your vehicle ???

WHY dont you spend you energy waste on posts and let the other BMW owners know how woderous is the ownership of used BMW that is past it's designed service life ???

Wonder if the ignition key can be also only used once, so that is why they replaced it with a button.....
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B bigbearMember
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
quote:
Big Bear


Why did you join this forum?: BITOG is getting to strange

Why don't you just go back "strange" is what you live for !!!

Again PROVE what you claim !!!


Miro, I do not have to prove anything since I am not the one selling this WITCHES BREW.

I see that since you do not want to answer my questions that means you are hiding something.

You cannot hide for long since the Members of Noria and BITOG will soon be seeing the truth behind your oil.

Miro, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE MY POWERS, I did bring down another OIL ADDITIVE on this board.

This is your FINAL chance to come clean.
B bigbearMember
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
quote:
Big Bear

Go ahead make my day !

You do not have any questions you just have negative comments that are total fabrication and you can not prove any of them.

You are NOT a customer, and I would not want you as one either so you have no right to ask for anything, period !


To Order:

We need following information:

FIRST NAME
LAST NAME
Shipping Address
City
State
ZIP CODE

Phone number (required for Credit card processing)
Phone number is also required for FedEx Ground & Home delivery shipments

VISA, M/C, Discover or AMX Card Number and Expiration

You can e-mail all above information.

If you prefer we can call you for the Card Number.
Send your contact number and best time to call you.

Syn-cerely
Miro Kefurt
www.synlube.com


Miro, would you like me to PRINT more, I so enjoyed talking with you on the phone awhile back.
T trajanMember
My my Miro, aren't you having a snit.

Sure, right. A M54 is an inferior, disposable design. Got your engineering degree from a Cracker jack box?

I would teel you that with the push button start, you still have to put a key in the slot too. At least on the loaner I used, but I fear that would fly past you.

Yeah, I thought you'd ge too scared to take me up on my offer. You really have a lot of faith in this swill you push.

Do you have a link to this AAA test? Not your qusetionable one, but one to AAA?

I see that Big Bear's post shows nothing from you asking for a VIN number. So why do you want one from me? It isn't my car with the shot engine.

You suffer from the ID ten T error.
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V vitualmageMember
Where is your factory?
Why you have no credit card accreditation?
And don’t go around saying no problem point…we are in 2010 any script kiddies could go your site and find these number, if you don’t believe me call your bank ask them if they recommend to buy from someone who don’t have a secure server….
Why not at least use paypall
Why keeping avoid these question
Why keeping avoid these question

WHERE is your office……
T trajanMember
http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~rblander/snake_oil.txt provided by inHaliburton in a different thread.

This part fits here I would think:

Testimonial Hype vs. Scientific Analysis
In general, most producers of oil additives rely on personal
"testimonials" to advertise and promote their products. A typical
print advertisement will be one or more letters from a satisfied
customer stating something like, "1 have used Brand X in my engine
for 2 years and 50,000 miles and it runs smoother and gets better
gas mileage than ever before. I love this product and would recommend
it to anyone."
Such evidence is referred to as "anecdotal" and is most commonly
used to pro mote such things as miracle weight loss diets and
astrology.

Drop the word additive.
M mirokefurtMember
quote:
Trajan


YOU ARE a liar, liar, liar and you can not even submit ZIP code, perhaps you do not know it !

After all you are probably homeless, living in you Z ???

It is only your neighbor

You can submit a city, but perhaps it is not on the map

You can submit last name

But perhaps no one would give a last name to you

So you just make a lie, that you can not prove

And you can not handle the fact that you have inferrior vehicle, that even 20 year old HONDA Civic leaves in a dust at any SCCA Rally Cross, oh well....
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M mirokefurtMember
quote:
Where is your factory?
Why you have no credit card accreditation?
And don’t go around saying no problem point…we are in 2010 any script kiddies could go your site and find these number, if you don’t believe me call your bank ask them if they recommend to buy from someone who don’t have a secure server….
Why not at least use paypall
Why keeping avoid these question
Why keeping avoid these question

WHERE is your office……

It’s a jeep thing you wouldn’t understand.



1.) NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS - show me where SHELL makes their synthetic Oil and I show you where we make SynLube''

We accept all credit cards VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, AMX

Have you read Pay Pal merchant agreement ?

You have to be nuts or have never been in business to agree to one way contract like that, and why Pay Pal does nothing about the e-mails we get daily that this or that is not OK with the Pay Pal Account ? (especially funny when we do not have one !)

FIND ONE person that had problem with any SynLube Credit Card Charge and I will pay you $1,000 - now there !!!
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M mirokefurtMember
quote:
Why not at least use paypall


14.6 Limitations of Liability. IN NO EVENT SHALL WE, OUR PARENT, EMPLOYEES OR OUR SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR LOST PROFITS OR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH OUR WEB SITE, OUR SERVICE, OR THIS AGREEMENT


14.7 No Warranty. PAYPAL, OUR PARENT, EMPLOYEES AND OUR SUPPLIERS PROVIDE OUR SERVICES AS IS AND WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY OR CONDITION, EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR STATUTORY. PAYPAL, OUR PARENT, EMPLOYEES AND OUR SUPPLIERS SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIM ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF TITLE, MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT. PayPal does not have any control over the products or services that are paid for with our Service and PayPal cannot ensure that a buyer or a seller you are dealing with will actually complete the transaction or is authorized to do so. PayPal does not guarantee continuous, uninterrupted or secure access to any part of our Service, and operation of our site may be interfered with by numerous factors outside of our control. PayPal will make reasonable efforts to ensure that requests for electronic debits and credits involving bank accounts, credit cards, and check issuances are processed in a timely manner but PayPal makes no representations or warranties regarding the amount of time needed to complete processing because our Service is dependent upon many factors outside of our control, such as delays in the banking system or the U.S. or international mail service.

That is WHY !

VISA, M/C, DISCOVER and AMX

ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE FULL and DAILY payment once authorization is obtained, it is defacto money in a bank in 15 seconds.

PAY PAL - NO WARRANTY, NO GUARANTEE and if you lucky you get the money in 10 days but also no WARRANTY

So when you are so "careful" how come you would use PAY PAL ?
V vitualmageMember
Don`t use paypal if you don`t like it ....but give a protection to your customer,verisign,trustwave or google checkout ?
Paypall might take a couple day to transfer but the money is there just froze,to protect the buyer and the seller. At least offer shipping with C.O.D. .

1.) NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS - show me where SHELL makes their synthetic Oil and I show you where we make SynLube''
Sure no problems here you go.....

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q...p=12,341.32,,0,-2.54

Extract from here :
http://www.albiansands.com/

then primary refine here:
http://www.shell.ca/home/conte...cts_canada/scotford/

and Finaly made into oil here :
http://www.shell.ca/home/conte...cts_canada/montreal/
and here
http://www.shell.ca/home/conte...s_canada/brockville/


Can i see your factory now?
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M mirokefurtMember
quote:
Trajan


Until you provide the ZIP or name or city of the 2007 Z4 owner you are lier lier lier

PROVE to the rest on this board and on BOB that you are not !

vitual_mage

Provide a name of a single person that had any charge problems with SynLube and I will pay you $1,000 - untill that hapens you are in the same boat with Trajan !!!

Now if you found the place go there and get a sample of the Synthetic SHELL OIL, they should welcome you with open gates !
M mirokefurtMember
quote:
vitual_mage

Date Registered: Thu March 18 2010
Karma Title: Level 1 - 1 to 50 posts
Location: Fort Mcmurray
Why did you join this forum?: to learn and fight against scam

But now we know you are in Montral, Canada

But they do not make Synthetic Oil there:

The Montreal East Refinery makes the following products:

Low Sulphur Gasoline
Distillates (Diesel Fuels)
Diesel
Furnace Oils
Aviation Turbine Fuel (Jet Fuel)
Heavy Oils
Liquified Petroleum Gas
Propane
Butane
Lubricating Oils/Waxes
Marine Oils
Bitumen


So you have failed the mission !!

Look up Mercury Nevada if you need to know, present yourself at the gate and I will give you a personal tour.

OUPS you have to be US Citizen.....but that is a minor detail isnt it ?
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T trajanMember
http://www.shell.ca/home/conte...s/scotford_upgrader/

The Scotford Upgrader is located next to Shell Canada's Scotford Refinery near Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta. The Scotford Upgrader uses hydrogen-addition technology to upgrade the high viscosity "extra heavy" crude oil (called bitumen) from the Muskeg River Mine into a wide range of synthetic crude oils.

Tell him what he wants to know.

http://www.hydrocarbons-techno...m/projects/scotford/
M mirokefurtMember
Why are you now defending SHELL should not you be the one who discovers all the snake oil and prosecute the producers ?

Take BITUMEN = crap THAT REMAINS FROM refinery production, not good for much as it is a WASTE:

Bitumen is a mixture of organic liquids that are highly viscous, black, sticky, entirely soluble in carbon disulfide, and composed primarily of highly condensed polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.

Naturally occurring or crude bitumen is a sticky, tar-like form of petroleum which is so thick and heavy that it must be heated or diluted before it will flow. At room temperature, it has a consistency much like cold molasses. Refined bitumen is the residual (bottom) fraction obtained by fractional distillation of crude oil. It is the heaviest fraction and the one with the highest boiling point, boiling at 525 °C (977 °F).


Add Hydrogen, no doubt it is the pure gas that accidentally leaked from the $2.3 billion California Hydrogen Highway, and

VOILA

It becomes high quality "synthetic" oil

GIVE ME A BRAKE !!!

Now we know who is behind your attacks on SynLube

SHELL - the BIG OIL that lies, fakes tests, etc,.

just see www.ftc.gov and search for SHELL....

Need I say more ???
T trajanMember
Yeah, I knew you would weasel out of answering his question.

I don't see anyone from Shell here selling product and making outrageous claims with no independant proof.

That would be..............................................wait for it..............................................................................................you.

(regarding post below.)

HUH????

I do wish you and your disciples would get your stories coordinated. First I am in the pay of E/M. Then Shell.

I fail to see where providing what you demanded from virtual equates to defending Shell, but, so be it.

I do see that you fail to provide what he wants. Something you said you would do when you goy what you wanted.

Typical con man stuff. Don't want us peaking behind the curtain.
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V vitualmageMember
Miro you are incredible,i was born in Quebec but now do live in Fort Mcmurray ,the tar sand are a really good money maker.

Since you seems to have hard time to read

Brokville lubricants plant :Most products produced at the plant bear the Shell, Quaker State and Pennzoil brands, plus many are produced for sale by other companies as private-label products in domestic and international markets. The Quaker State and Pennzoil brands are part of the Shell Lubricants brand portfolio as Shell purchased the Pennzoil-Quaker State Company in 2002.


he plant is a highly automated operation, producing approximately 200 formulations of automotive, aviation and industrial lubricating oils to Shell customers in both domestic and international markets. The plant is an experienced supplier of lubricants for many leading private-label customers.

Montreal East REfinery roducts: Liquified petroleum gasoline, distillates, heavy oils, lubricating oils, waxes, bitumen.


And why i would not be able to go in USA ?
E enochcaMember
Miro...you said Synlube is NON PETROLEUM 100% Man made in Lab BUT in your MSDS data sheet WHY your product use Mobil Laboratory? Who is liar????
enoch

quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
Actually you can not get shell synthetic oil anywhere as SHELL does not and never had any production capacity for anything but API III petroleum that once it becomes PENNZOIL ultra trhis or that magically becomes Synthetic and therefore they insist you change it every 4,000 miles because it is 34% better than the not so good normal PENNZOIL that is only good for 3,000 miles - read their "Warranty"

If they had anything that had even a drop of anything "man-made" = definition of syntehtic in every industry except if used on lubricants, there it is OK to call "petroleum" a "synthetic", so how come no human being was ever able to make "petroleum at home" ?

Just think about it, if it is MAN made and you are a MAN (I hope) why can not you make your own petroleum ?

Should be really easy !!!

SynLube is NON PETROLEUM - 100% MAN MADE in a LAB, and not in a Refinery from millions of years old "garbage".

That is why our Synthetic is good for 150,000 miles and not just 34% BETTER THAN THE 3,000 MILE OIL....

SO there, and you do not even have to go to Mercury, NV to find that out and you can remain a Canadian, while I will be proud to be an American !!!
T taterandnoodlesMember
quote:
Originally posted by enochca:
Miro...you said Synlube is NON PETROLEUM 100% Man made in Lab BUT in your MSDS data sheet WHY your product use Mobil Laboratory? Who is liar????
enoch

quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
Actually you can not get shell synthetic oil anywhere as SHELL does not and never had any production capacity for anything but API III petroleum that once it becomes PENNZOIL ultra trhis or that magically becomes Synthetic and therefore they insist you change it every 4,000 miles because it is 34% better than the not so good normal PENNZOIL that is only good for 3,000 miles - read their "Warranty"

If they had anything that had even a drop of anything "man-made" = definition of syntehtic in every industry except if used on lubricants, there it is OK to call "petroleum" a "synthetic", so how come no human being was ever able to make "petroleum at home" ?

Just think about it, if it is MAN made and you are a MAN (I hope) why can not you make your own petroleum ?

Should be really easy !!!

SynLube is NON PETROLEUM - 100% MAN MADE in a LAB, and not in a Refinery from millions of years old "garbage".

That is why our Synthetic is good for 150,000 miles and not just 34% BETTER THAN THE 3,000 MILE OIL....

SO there, and you do not even have to go to Mercury, NV to find that out and you can remain a Canadian, while I will be proud to be an American !!!


Enochca I posted his reply to that question in the MSDS thread.
B bigbearMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
http://editorial.autos.msn.com...autos_1371>1=22017

Poor Miro. So much for his degree in engineering vis a vis BMWs.


Miro, your days are numbered, soon we will all see a VOA of your worthless witches brew, this VOA will expose all of Synlube's weaknesses and prove that your so called oil is outdated and of no benefit in today's automobiles.

Did you ever put any Synlube in one of those Yugo's you sold here in this country.

That Yugo was a great car, not, there was a woman driving over a bridge in Michigan years ago and the car got blown off the bridge.
V vitualmageMember
quote:
Look up Mercury Nevada if you need to know, present yourself at the gate and I will give you a personal tour.

[QUOTE] OUPS you have to be US Citizen.....but that is a minor detail isnt it ?



Miro explain this one to me ...i just can’t figure it out, why i would have to be a US citizen to go in USA or buy your oil? Could it be its illegal to sell your product in Canada?
I inhaliburtonMember
quote:
Miro explain this one to me ...i just can’t figure it out, why i would have to be a US citizen to go in USA or buy your oil? Could it be its illegal to sell your product in Canada?It’s a jeep thing you wouldn’t understand.


Vitual: FYI, You can order from Synlube website, pay in US of A greenbacks, shipped here to Canada fob destination! Keep us informed re how it works out for youo.
V vitualmageMember
inHaliburton FYI I would, if i could get a safe way of payment, honestly would you really give your credit card number like that? If Miro is willing to make a PayPal invoice or a Google account im buying a bottle and send if for voa.You can make the order if buying online to an unknow source dont botter you.

Still my question was directed toward Miro ......why I would not be able to go in USA?
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R robertcMember
quote:
Originally posted by annie_oakley:

Hello to all the demeaning non-believers. I have been reading all of the posts and can't believe all the disrespect shown to captain kirk over his personal experience with synlube lube-4-life that I to have been using for nine years and counting.

I am not here to voice my opinion. I use synlube and it works as the synlube website claims.

I know from actual experience,not uneducated OPINIONS!

If you've used synlube then you can offer your input!!

Your approach has been only to demean people on a personal level!

Your ignorance is appalling!

...


you hit it on the head.

Non Believers.

This isn't about opinions and belief. this is science.

Plain and simple. Like it or not, anecdotal evidence is not science.

you know the saying, The plural of anecdote is not data?

Well, it's true.

You decry other people for uneducated opinions.

You got much engineering education, related work experience, or certifications in the field?

Miro won't allow us to be easily educated. Withholding all real data, declaring that we are not allowed to have opinions unless we are users, etc.

And speaking of uneducated opinions, your dig a Nuclear Dawg about too much radiation. you know ANYTHING about the subject? About the rules we live by, the expense we go to, the precautions we take? All to keep everyone safe?

And finally, all I hear from my effort at providing an objective and undeniable report is nothing.


Except an innuendo somewhere that Miro lives in Mercury.

It's cool, I'll drive up.

(see page 41)
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T trajanMember
Oh, and inhaliburton:

Originally posted by inHaliburton:
Blah blah blah. Yada yada yada. Gimme gimme gimme. You have to gimme this. You have to gimme that. I dewmand to know this. I demand to know that. You owe me this, you owe me that. I need instant gratification. I behave just like my spoiled rotten teeny bopper kid. 31 pages—and heading for 50 pages—of the same old crap. I'm too lazy to read. Same blenders from schools of higher learning and weekend driveway oil changers types asking the same dumb old stuff. Mud slingers at best.

Thus why I said you frown on people seeking information.
B bigbearMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
Oh, and inhaliburton:

Originally posted by inHaliburton:
Blah blah blah. Yada yada yada. Gimme gimme gimme. You have to gimme this. You have to gimme that. I dewmand to know this. I demand to know that. You owe me this, you owe me that. I need instant gratification. I behave just like my spoiled rotten teeny bopper kid. 31 pages—and heading for 50 pages—of the same old crap. I'm too lazy to read. Same blenders from schools of higher learning and weekend driveway oil changers types asking the same dumb old stuff. Mud slingers at best.

Thus why I said you frown on people seeking information.


I can see Trajan is in attack mode, Miro will you provide us with any kind of useful facts before this THREAD gets locked.

We have VOA's on just about every oil out there.

Synlube is really starting to sound like auto-rx.

Both products have absolutely no testing and they are both claimed to be the best from there owners.

Miro, you have probably noticed that auto-rx is not talked about much these days, if you keep up your bizzare attacks then eventually you will not have a voice on this forum, we want proof, not bogus sales talk.
B bigbearMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
Can't supply what doesn't exsist.


Trajan has a great point, Synlube has absolutely no testing to prove any of there claims.

I was the one that found out that auto-rx never did any tests, and it seems Synlube just gives us bogus answers.

Miro, prove your product is not worthless and its not some outdated WWII Oil Formula.
I inhaliburtonMember
quote:
inHaliburton FYI I would, if i could get a safe way of payment, honestly would you really give your credit card number like that? If Miro is willing to make a PayPal invoice or a Google account im buying a bottle and send if for voa.You can make the order if buying online to an unknow source dont botter you.Still my question was directed toward Miro ......why I would not be able to go in USA?


I guess I'm not as careful as you re buying online. I give out CC info all the time, but then again, my cards are maxed out, so not much to lose.

Shouldn't be a problem going to US of A unless criminal record, terrorist, that sort of thing. They check that sort of thing these days. We Canucks need a passport or Enhanced Drivers License to get across. Salute!
9o
I inhaliburtonMember
quote:
Oh, and inhaliburton:Originally posted by inHaliburton:Blah blah blah. Yada yada yada. Gimme gimme gimme. You have to gimme this. You have to gimme that. I dewmand to know this. I demand to know that. You owe me this, you owe me that. I need instant gratification. I behave just like my spoiled rotten teeny bopper kid. 31 pages—and heading for 50 pages—of the same old crap. I'm too lazy to read. Same blenders from schools of higher learning and weekend driveway oil changers types asking the same dumb old stuff. Mud slingers at best. Thus why I said you frown on people seeking information.


WoW! It's hard to believe that I wrote that dribble 15 pages ago...
M mirokefurtMember
quote:
inHaliburton


I am not US Government, so any questions about visiting Mercury, Nevada you have to direct to DoD, or DoE - that is their business and not mine as far as whom they let through the gate.

And if you want to test your ability to access any lube plant, find one in Canada (like SHELL) and show up at the front gate telling then you are there to take a "sample" and see what will your Countrymen tell you.

Every company and every Country have their own procedures, if the fact that we accept all Credit Cards and ship daily to anywhere in the World is not good enough nothing ever will be.

As long as you need excuses you will always find something - to make an excuse for non action.

You can always have your friend or relative buy SynLube for you and we would never know you are getting it.

We ship 10 to 15 orders to NEW customers daily and close to 100 to repeat buyers after all there is over 72,000 vehicles with SynLube, and eventually they all need a Liter of ADD OIL.

Typically once every two years, so do the math

Personally I do not care if we get even one NEW customer as we already produce SynLube just barely at the rate it sells.

New Customers usually have to wait 7 to 10 days and that is one reason we STRONGLY discourage the use of Our Products in OLD, and HIGH MILEAGE vehicles, as that way we would not be able to provide proper service to people that have NEW vehicles which benefit from our products the most.

Since we have several businesses and also a real life, I have neither the time or desire to live on blog boards that are the sole entertainment for handful of people that have no life at all, and if it was not for such blogs, their life would have no purpose – not that it has any now, but imagine if their last coveted reason to be – to change Motor Oil every 3 months or 3,000 miles is removed from their existence, the life as we know it just might end !!!

On the other hand there are Doctors, Lawyers, and other people whose life is valued by the Society at much greater per time value than the cost of even a FREE OIL CHANGE at BMW Dealers, so they opt to save time, money and inconvenience to do such stuff.
Then there are the very very few that do it for the environmental reason, no USED OIL Generated and no POLLUTION !!!
And about 10 to 15% use SynLube just because they do not want to send their money to Arabs for the Crude that normal Conventional oil (and that includes Synthetic) is made from.
I have never started any SynLube Thread anywhere, but our customers did and they always seem to be outnumbered by the same 10 to 15 people that NEVER SEEN, NEVER BOUGHT, NEVER USED, SynLube but of course they know all about the HORRORS it will inevitably do in their bellowed 100,000 + mile junker they drive, etc.
Trajan LIE:
2007 BMW Z4 – damaged by SynLube
Cannot provide even the ZIP code or the City of the owner – can not authenticate the lie generated

Virtual Something:
Claims we misuse credit card info – LIE can not substantiate it – my offer I will pay $1,000 if he finds ANYONE ANYWHERE that EVER had a problem with CC payment for SynLube.

With SynLube EVERYBODY LOOSES !!!
Automaker = Vehicle Lasts MUCH longer, no NEW sales
OIL COMPANY = Fuel Economy is improved, less fuel sold
LUBE COMPANY = NO SALES
AUTO MECHANIC = NO Oil Changes, NO UP SALE Business
The only person in the entire World Economy that benefits from SynLube is the ACTUAL vehicle owner, he/she saves TIME, MONEY and the ENVIRONMENT !!!
But you would already known about it if you really did read all that is on www.synlube.com
M mirokefurtMember
To Order:



We need following information:



FIRST NAME

LAST NAME

Shipping Address

City

State

ZIP CODE



Phone number (required for Credit card processing)
Phone number is also required for FedEx Ground & Home delivery shipments



VISA, M/C, Discover or AMX Card Number and Expiration



You can e-mail all above information.



If you prefer we can call you for the Card Number.
Send your contact number and best time to call you.



Syn-cerely

Miro Kefurt

www.synlube.com


WE HAVE NO On-Line ordering for two reasons:

1.) We want to know who will be using our products and in what application, want to make sure the proper products are supplied, most people DO NOT know the right filter for example

more than 1/2 people have no idea what engine is in theri vehicle and some "models" like FORD F-150 has 5 different oil filters in use !!

2.) No FORM or ON LINE shop set up is SECURE, and hundreds of them are hacked daily.

There are more than 72 versions of browsers ans some even store you CC info that any hacker can get quite easily.

But no one is able to get any information from the old fashioned e-mail unless it is stored in Microsoft Exchange (we do not use it)

So if order security is a concern the e-mail what you want is the MOST SECURE way, even more secure than voice phone !

When JPL, NASA, DoD or DoE order someting, they send non HTML e-mail to do it, and that includes Goverment Issued CC that usually has $25,000 limit, but no one ever had any problem since 1996 when we initiaed the e-mail ordering.

Even US Govt agancies pay with order as it saves then time to process Accounts Payable, Invoicing etc.

So really there is NO excuse, and of course you can always MAIL an old-fashioned CHECK or MONEY ORDER, that happens about 2 or 3 times per year, and we still do "MAIL ORDER" as well - but that more or less is a no longer used method of ordering
B bigbearMember
Miro, the reason you are here on Noria is because your sales are in the gutter, and you are using this board to further your agenda for any sale you can get.

If you are posting here, that means your phone is not ringing, if you were really busy selling your product then you would not even be here on this board. If you were really selling alot of product you would not even care what has been said on this board. I am having a hard time believing that Synlube is in 72,000 vehicles, maybe it is in 72 vehicles or on the high side maybe 720 vehicles.
M mirokefurtMember
I do not live on Noria, and almost never look at BOB OIL GUY.

But at least Noria sends me e-mail when somebody posts someting, sometimes it is months and then another 5 pages of nonsense in 3 weeks.

Noria also does not ban people for answering question related to the products they admit they sell, that is a NO NO on BOB, and you get permanently banned if you sell anything other than AMSOIL, Shaffers' or who ever sponsors "Helen" - a 70 year woman that owes money to IRS !!!


There is only about 300 million vehicles in USA so even 72,000 is a drop in a bucket, but that is representative of 72,000 barrels of oil that is not turned into hazardous waste and 72,000 barrels of oil that does not have to be purchased and then shipped to Refinery, at a current cost of about $100 per barrel (if you add shipping and handling costs to the going price of $80 per barel of crude).

And collectively our customers saved over $8 million on oil changes, and are glad they do !!!

We have 68,191 customes as of today on our database, so obviously some have more than one vehicle !

We had 683 vehicles that got replaced under the clunker program - because we let our customers know about it 3 weeks before it was a "news", and all of them now have SynLube in their NEW vehicles - and can not Thank us enough !!!

The typical clunker they traded in was 9 to 20 years old and had between 120,000 and 150,000 miles, and NONE of them would have bought a NEW car if it was not for the $4,500 credit that thye got for what was not even worth $500 in trade otherwise.

NONE of them whould have even known the program was on if it was not for our NEWSLETTER informing them of it, as a reasult one in a 1,000 clunker vehicles was a SynLubed vehicle, and guess what - the engines could not be destroyed as specified, I was personally present at two occasions where the Dealers tried to "ruin" the engines, with the "solvent", without any oil, etc.

They ended up using the alternate method, sledge hammer...

And guess what if you are taxpayer, you have already paid both for the SynLube and the clunker program, after all it is YOUR tax money !!!
I inhaliburtonMember
quote:
Miro, the reason you are here on Noria is because your sales are in the gutter, and you are using this board to further your agenda for any sale you can get.If you are posting here, that means your phone is not ringing, if you were really busy selling your product then you would not even be here on this board. If you were really selling alot of product you would not even care what has been said on this board. I am having a hard time believing that Synlube is in 72,000 vehicles, maybe it is in 72 vehicles or on the high side maybe 720 vehicles.


You know, a lot of what Miro says makes sense to me. There is no way that he has only about 720 customers. He's been in business for many years. I believe he's right that there are only a small number of negative posters compared to his customer base and have virtually no effect to his business. This is a long thread spanning 5 years, 900 posts and 80 thousand views mostly by the same people who if you add them all up wouldn't amount to much in terms of dollars and cents in the oil biz. Just my 2 cents worth.
E enochcaMember
Miro make sense to you, but their MSDS fact is really wear...can you imagine a company like Synlube test their product in 1990 in Mobil Laboratory but they dont know the dated when they test this...?? and after 20 years from this test they publish this MSDS for the first time in 2010!!!! and who can believe this result after 20 years, you know all environtment regulation changes alots after 20 years.
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I inhaliburtonMember
quote:
Miro make sense to you, but their MSDS fact is really wear...can you imagine a company like Synlube test their product in 1990 in Mobil Laboratory but they dont know the dated when they test this...?? and after 20 years from this test they publish this MSDS for the first time in 2010!!!! and who can believe this result after 20 years, you know all environtment regulation changes alots after 20 years.enoch


Well, I'm not sure that's entirely correct. I can't be bothered plowing back through the posts, but if I recall correctly, the MSDS is dated when requested, or something to that effect...

In another vein, if Miro had not replied to the posts herein, this thread would have died years ago. I think he does it for fun and gets a kick out of getting you guys all worked up. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Wink
M mirokefurtMember
PAO has not changed in 38 years
POE has not changed in 54 years
C-12 PAO has not changed in 26 years

Colloidal Synthetic Graphite has been the same since 1938, and PTFE since 1945, Synthetically made Moly same since 1966

Rabbit skin has been the same for thousands of years and millions if not billions of generations.

And Rats that have been around for millions of years as well would probably like eating SynLube 20 years later especially since the formula tested by Mobil Environmental Laboratory was same since 1985.

So even today it is totally safe to put SynLube on your skin, splash it into your eyes and so on.

Also notice we are the ONLY lubricant for automobiles that does NOT need to have a SKIN CANCER Warning on the bottle.....

THE ONLY ONE IN USA !!!

SO there !!!

Eat some Syn and report in on your digestive experience, we need some Human data, to compare it to Rats and Rabbits....
M mirokefurtMember
quote:
Big Bear

for YOUR BENEFIT SINCE YOU CAN NOT GO BACK IN TIME AND READ PREVIOUS POSTS:

This is at least the third time here:

Can you get your heads out of the sand ?

How many times I have to post the same thing ???

http://www.synlube.com/PR201001.htm
http://lube4life.com/press.htm
http://lube4life.com/pr02.htm

FORD, KIA, AAA, BERTONE are the proofs as well as FTP-75 tests.

Show me one lifetime sequence (FTP-75 test) for any oil available in USA !!!

I have yet to see one, so if you want a proof why does SHELL, MOBIL, EXXON, AMSOIL not have one ??? It should be easy for multi billion company to run few FTP-test and have someone drive for 100,000 miles in any vehicle !

Why has that never been done ?

VOA is on FRESH OIL, that does not prove anything as far as performance, durability, wear or anything else. Or even that it is "motor oil".

Do not believe me ? Just do VOA on Oilve Oil ...
A adfd1Member
Wow now a VOA is meaningless too, I guess a lot of people waste a lot of money on them. The full report isn't even out Miro and you are already defending your product. What if the oil is actually good, would VOA reports still be meaningless?

You afraid you're busted on the garage brew of yours? Just wondering.

IIRC oil is more harmful after it has been used, not before. Here's something to try Miro, splash some Synlube on your skin after a 50,000 mile, and drink some as you suggested to another member. Then give us a report on your digestive system.

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R robertcMember
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
PAO has not changed in 38 years
POE has not changed in 54 years
C-12 PAO has not changed in 26 years

Colloidal Synthetic Graphite has been the same since 1938, and PTFE since 1945, Synthetically made Moly same since 1966

Rabbit skin has been the same for thousands of years and millions if not billions of generations.

And Rats that have been around for millions of years as well would probably like eating SynLube 20 years later especially since the formula tested by Mobil Environmental Laboratory was same since 1985.

So even today it is totally safe to put SynLube on your skin, splash it into your eyes and so on.

Also notice we are the ONLY lubricant for automobiles that does NOT need to have a SKIN CANCER Warning on the bottle.....

THE ONLY ONE IN USA !!!

SO there !!!

Eat some Syn and report in on your digestive experience, we need some Human data, to compare it to Rats and Rabbits....


Teflon is less than useless in an engine.
V vitualmageMember
Miro lots of people remenber you from some Ford forum....tdiforum they even prove you switched multiple time your id.How about the open delvac1 bottle ,selling stuff with no seal? Seriously or bad your scam can get........

Funny to on all the other forum,you always end up getting ban,you and your multiple account...you have to be seriously nuts to even try to use your snake oil product .
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B bigbearMember
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
quote:
Big Bear

for YOUR BENEFIT SINCE YOU CAN NOT GO BACK IN TIME AND READ PREVIOUS POSTS:

This is at least the third time here:

Can you get your heads out of the sand ?

How many times I have to post the same thing ???

http://www.synlube.com/PR201001.htm
http://lube4life.com/press.htm
http://lube4life.com/pr02.htm

FORD, KIA, AAA, BERTONE are the proofs as well as FTP-75 tests.

Show me one lifetime sequence (FTP-75 test) for any oil available in USA !!!

I have yet to see one, so if you want a proof why does SHELL, MOBIL, EXXON, AMSOIL not have one ??? It should be easy for multi billion company to run few FTP-test and have someone drive for 100,000 miles in any vehicle !

Why has that never been done ?

VOA is on FRESH OIL, that does not prove anything as far as performance, durability, wear or anything else. Or even that it is "motor oil".

Do not believe me ? Just do VOA on Oilve Oil ...


Miro, I hope you realize that anyone reading this Thread are potential customers, the burden of proving that your product works rests with the seller and that is you. Maybe this is all fun and games for you, but the members of Noria are a smart bunch and we would like to see facts and not some sales pitch. This Thread started back in 2004, and now almost 6 years later all I have seen from you is attacks on other motor oil companies, since your game is to attack it seems you are trying to keep us from finding out what Synlube is all about. How hard is it for you to understand that we want to see a VOA on your product, are you afraid we will find out that you are using Mobil 1 Oil as your base oil. Everything you have written in this thread probably makes people who are reading it to just go to Wal-Mart and buy some oil instead of Synlube.

If you really do have Synlube in 73,000 vehicles then how hard is it for you to contact these customers and have them post about there experience with your product.

I am sure we have some members from Noria or BITOG who live in Nevada and it would be great if you could invite them to where your product is made, is it in Nevada or California.

I think if you are more open with us here, then maybe we would be less skeptical about Synlube, if we had all of the answers maybe we would find out that you might just have an oil that is the best for our vehicles. The more you attack potential customers and members here, the more they will fight back and this fighting will just continue with no winner, in the end the only loser in this debate will be the owner of Synlube, not the members of Noria.
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M mirokefurtMember
How many times I have to post the same thing ???

http://www.synlube.com/PR201001.htm
http://lube4life.com/press.htm
http://lube4life.com/pr02.htm

Big Bear apparently you are not able to click on any of the above links:

VOA or UOA is not any measure of Motor Oil durability or performance, just as 4-Ball test has no relevance, if any of that had any value it would part of API or ILSAC or ASTM test procedureds and it is NOT.

Come to STLE in Las Vegas and we can talk about it.
A adfd1Member
quote:
Originally posted by vitual_mage:
Miro lots of people remenber you from some Ford forum....tdiforum they even prove you switched multiple time your id.How about the open delvac1 bottle ,selling stuff with no seal? Seriously or bad your scam can get........

Funny to on all the other forum,you always end up getting ban,you and your multiple account...you have to be seriously nuts to even try to use your snake oil product .


This dude don't know when to quit. He did sell a few qts to be sent out for analysis, so I guess we should give him credit for that. Hopefull when the results are in he'll go into hiding again, or try scamming a new bunch.

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M mirokefurtMember
ADFD1

For your information we have been selling Some of Mobil 1 products to our fleet customers since 1989.

For some applications SynLube is just not cost effective like large diesels with 20 to 45 quarts of oil and daily oil consumption of one gallon, or AT transmissions that are too old and the OEM fluid can not be drained completely.

Delvac 1
Mobil 1 ATF
Mobil 1 SAE 75W-90

Products are always in our inventory, but we only sell them to FLEETS as shipping costs as much or more than the value of the products in small volume. People just can not walk to PepBoys or Wal-Mart to get those - try is yourself and SEE for YOURSELF !!

The stuff is sold the same way we get it from ExxonMobil, and if you ever opened any Delvac 1 or M1 ATF you would know that there is NO SEAL and the cap has "tear off" cap collar.

So just the same bunch of lies as the people that lie about 2007 BMW, security clearance or credit card fraud, now you lie about nonexisting seals that are missing - just keep ON !!!

PROVE IT - and do not copy someone elses anonymous posts you have no proof of.
V vitualmageMember
Miro big Bear seems perfectly able person,sane and in any case credible.All your post is your poor made link made with front page 3.0 hell office 97 are you still running windows 98 ?

Don`t go around talking online security you are clueless...email are safe seriously....we are not living on the same planet or you are to much of an idiot to realize what you are saying.
Even a script kiddies know better,anyway you are god in your own mental kingdom,you posses the ultimate wisdom,everyone in the world should drive a yugo and use synlube.
V vitualmageMember
yup is so safe.......

Yugo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...R3lg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErjIA5J57Qw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...jM0Q&feature=related


JEEP WRANGLER JK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBRC1lapxsw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...znIU&feature=related

I guess i did a nice editing job and all these are lie and fake.

And obviously my insurances rate are higher..its a 2009,a yugo with full tank and a fresh oil change is worth more then the original value of the vehicle.....

MIRO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SHOULD APOLOGIES TO HIM
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B bigbearMember
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
How many times I have to post the same thing ???

http://www.synlube.com/PR201001.htm
http://lube4life.com/press.htm
http://lube4life.com/pr02.htm

Big Bear apparently you are not able to click on any of the above links:

VOA or UOA is not any measure of Motor Oil durability or performance, just as 4-Ball test has no relevance, if any of that had any value it would part of API or ILSAC or ASTM test procedureds and it is NOT.

Come to STLE in Las Vegas and we can talk about it.


Miro, I clicked on the Links, if you are so against UOA's then maybe it would be nice to contact these customers and maybe get some valvetrain pics, is that too much too ask.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
Miro:

AAA Project Identification Number: 81

Project Number: 2002-0317-1

Link to test that does not lead to your website.


TO ALL THE POSTERS WATCHING!!

Trajen spends his entire life on this board and the other board,morning,noon,and night,attacting and hounding any post to do with synlube or anyone using it!! WHY? Is that your life now? Your full time job??

Trajen your pattern is to never admit when you are wrong. You never asnwered many of my questions when you were cornered you little shill!! Yes,..you are the shill!!

I have also noticed the story about the fake next door friend of yours with the fake z car you claimed had synlube that ruined his fake engine in his fake car that we all know you made up!! Maybe you are fake just the same trajen!!

If you want any credibility on this board you must retract that story you made up with the z-car or you will never have any credibiltiy on this board in my opinion ever again.!!!!

You never answered annie_oakley or Miro,nor showed any proof regarding the z car...proving you sir, are a blantent liar!! How dare a liar like you ask and demand any questions??

You have no credibilty whatsoever now that you have proven yourself a liar!! Retract your lie!!

Any proof at this point.. this late in the game about your bogus neighbor/friend....made up! So don't even try or bother......your'e busted!!!

You have been caught as a liar!! Retract your lie!!

You guys have waaaayyyyyy to much free time on your hands dedicated to slandering a product you have nor will ever try for whatever reason.

Trajen, all you do on these boards is hound and harass deliberataly myslelf and or the synlube product, the company,and anyone that has posted as a real person using the product. Why!

Myself and others have simply stated we use the product and have even given our real identity....as you call it.....we manned up!!

I have made challenges and offers and no one replies! Where are the so called men in this or the other group who post here as well.. if any???

I have yet to see anyone on this board answer any of my questions in the UOA/VOA VS. THE REAL WORD RESULTS! Why is name brand oil sludging up all over the place in many makes models foreign and domestic??

Why all the class action lawuits? Why is name brand oil always reinventing itself when their last formula failed all too often???

Trajen...show me the proof that the engines in all those cars were defective all over the country by all those car makers both foreign and domestic that you claim!! Is that a Joke! Well the courts didn't think so!!

The world is now making defective engines all over the place is what you claim tajen. Another lie you just made up!!

Since you guys live on this site and the other you should have had no problem answering the above questions. After all...it's your full time job....or it sure seems that way to me!!
V vitualmageMember
Captain_kirk or Miro whatever or you want to be call today,You seems to have lots of free time yourself,and credibility is a word you should not use ,incredibly stupid suit you more.Continue your good work to destroy the credibility of synlube, you are doing an amazing job,so far only one person and on this forum....took you seriously ,kinda funny but hey. Next time ,avoid to say your product was made in area 51 for space ship and don`t say you are friend with Bill Gate , forget about your security clearance to Bord the enterprise .


Synlube its a sin to use it,we destroy your engine since 1944!
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T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:

Myself and others have simply stated we use the product and have even given our real identity....as you call it.....we manned up!!


Your real name is Captain Kirk? Or is it annie oakley?

Link the test named above that does not go to your website.

Show that the lawsuits filed against Toyota, Mercedes, or other car makers for sludging engines went against the oil companies.

http://consumeraffairs.com/new...udge_settlement.html

Name the oil companies mentioned.

http://www.legalnewswatch.com/...n-mercedes-benz-case

Name the oil companies mentioned.

http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/c...ine-oil-sludge-2752/

Name the oil companies mentioned.

http://www.autosafety.org/volk...plaints-about-sludge

Again...........

http://www.autosafety.org/saab...ng-sludge-problems-0

And again.....

I see by your post below that you have no answer for the info you wanted vis a vis faulty engine design. Par for the course.
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C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
Link to the test above that does not lead to your website.

Link to the lawsuits against the auto makers that laid the blame on the oil makers instead.



We are still waiting for your retraction of the lie you generated.

Until you retract your lie about the z-car....go pound sand!!!!!!




Trajen.....You have no credibility up to this point. ZERO!! By failing to retract your lie......you have officially admitted that you have lied.

Your questions from this point are meaningless and without purpose. I can not have any dialogue with someone who lies and then won't retract the lie especially when they are caught!!

Trajen....so now you are finally admitting about the sludge issues I stated as fact on both boards as being a major issue.....that you persisted earlier as not true. Looks like I was right about that fact as well. For that...I thank you for proving me correct about the fact that engine sludge is a major issue. By the way.....still waiting for your retraction of the lie you fabricated about the damaged z car using synlube.


As for vitual's last post I have only one word...............WHAT??? What was all that nonsense?

Would you like to rephrase that post vitual? It made no sense whatsoever!!
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T trajanMember
Never said it wasn't a major issue. You blame the oil makers. The lawsuits, despite what you claim, were aimed at the car makers. IOW, bad engine design, which I said.

BTW, if you claim my credibility is zero, then the claim you make that I agree with you would also mean your arguement has none.

AAA Project Identification Number: 81

Project Number: 2002-0317-1

Link to test that does not lead to your website.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
Never said it wasn't a major issue. You blame the oil makers. The lawsuits, despite what you claim, were aimed at the car makers. IOW, bad engine design, which I said.

BTW, if you claim my credibility is zero, then the claim you make that I agree with you would also mean your arguement has none.

AAA Project Identification Number: 81

Project Number: 2002-0317-1

Link to test that does not lead to your website.


Retract your fabricated story about the z-car.....then we can have dialogue.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:

Myself and others have simply stated we use the product and have even given our real identity....as you call it.....we manned up!!


Your real name is Captain Kirk? Or is it annie oakley?

Link the test named above that does not go to your website.

Show that the lawsuits filed against Toyota, Mercedes, or other car makers for sludging engines went against the oil companies.

http://consumeraffairs.com/new...udge_settlement.html

Name the oil companies mentioned.

http://www.legalnewswatch.com/...n-mercedes-benz-case

Name the oil companies mentioned.

http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/c...ine-oil-sludge-2752/

Name the oil companies mentioned.

http://www.autosafety.org/volk...plaints-about-sludge

Again...........

http://www.autosafety.org/saab...ng-sludge-problems-0

And again.....

I see by your post below that you have no answer for the info you wanted vis a vis faulty engine design. Par for the course.


HERE IS THE CHALLENGE TO THE SLUDGE ISSUE!!

Would anyone on this forum care to show me if anyone of these cars had sludge when using SYNLUBE, OR even AMSOIL. Bet you can't!!

Explain to me why the vast majority if not all the sludge cases were issues with store bought oils including your beloved name brand synthetic and yet,...sludge still persisted!! WHY??

Explain why sludge was never an issue in any of these cars when 100% premium pure synthetic oil was used like SYNLUBE. You might be able to find a few cases out of thousands and thousands of sludged engines with amsoil if your lucky in your search........amsoil being my second favorite oil to keep engines clean.

How do you explain that sludge is only problem with store bought oils??

Sludge magically goes away or never appears when synlube is used. That includes amsoil just to make my point about sludge and engine design.

If the engines are part of the problem as you imply......then all the more reason to use synlube. The sludge issues prove it!! The class action lawsuits prove it.!

Essentially you are proving that these engines need oil that is far superior to what was typically installed in them.

Sludge is caused from low grade oil coupled with high tech engine designs and emission standards that stress and ruin cheap oil....not premium 100% synlube,or any 100% PAO synthetic oil.

It does not really matter if you argue what caused the sludge....poor engine,or cheap oil.

WHAT DID NOT CAUSE THE SLUDGE IS THE ARGUMENT!!

When the correct oil was installed=NO SLUDGE!! PERIOD!!

Why do you think the store bought oils keep reinventing themselves with new chemistry every year??

Engine design has proven itself to be ahead of the typical motor oil on the market.

Motor oil is always trying to catch up!! That's a fact!! It's always changing but lagging!!

Why not use a product that surpasses todays engine technology?? I do!!
I inhaliburtonMember
From Vitual...
quote:
Captain_kirk or Miro whatever or you want to be call today,You seems to have lots of free time yourself,and credibility is a word you should not use ,incredibly stupid suit you more.Continue your good work to destroy the credibility of synlube, you are doing an amazing job,so far only one person and on this forum....took you seriously ,kinda funny but hey. Next time ,avoid to say your product was made in area 51 for space ship and don`t say you are friend with Bill Gate , forget about your security clearance to Bord the enterprise .Synlube its a sin to use it,we destroy your engine since 1944!

HuH? I've read it 5 times.Makes no sense whatsoever. Is it me? Try to stay up wind from the fumes percolating from the Tar Sands. Hope you don't drive heavy equipment out there.
I inhaliburtonMember
Trajan wrote:
quote:
Never said it wasn't a major issue. You blame the oil makers. The lawsuits, despite what you claim, were aimed at the car makers. IOW, bad engine design, which I said.BTW, if you claim my credibility is zero, then the claim you make that I agree with you would also mean your arguement has none.AAA Project Identification Number: 81Project Number: 2002-0317-1Link to test that does not lead to your website.

Trajan, it's the same old garbage coming from you. Also, I don't see you denying Captain Kirk's allegations re lies. If so, be a man and admit to the accusations of lies, or if untrue, let's hear about it.
T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
Trajan wrote:
quote:
Never said it wasn't a major issue. You blame the oil makers. The lawsuits, despite what you claim, were aimed at the car makers. IOW, bad engine design, which I said.BTW, if you claim my credibility is zero, then the claim you make that I agree with you would also mean your arguement has none.AAA Project Identification Number: 81Project Number: 2002-0317-1Link to test that does not lead to your website.

Trajan, it's the same old garbage coming from you. Also, I don't see you denying Captain Kirk's allegations re lies. If so, be a man and admit to the accusations of lies, or if untrue, let's hear about it.


Then you provide the link requested. What is there to deny? Last I looked, I'm not pushing some crap oil here.

Nor posting about bogus tests. Or accussing people of multiple accounts. Or of being some Shell salesman who is being paid by Exxon Mobil.

Nor have I claimed in the past to be an owner of synlibe. Or claiming that someone altered an MSDS that they never saw before taterandnoddles got it.

You don't like the fact I know of a car withan engine killed by this crap? I don't really care.
I'm not selling it.

Nor am I the one who is complaining because we want facts, verifiable facts, about this snake oil. You and the cult do that.

In short, you're not getting a vin#, which is not required to buy this swill. You're not getting any personal information from me because it's none of your bloody business.

I'm not the one whining because a woman owns a site with a male name. Nor the one whining about my public profile, or claiming to use my real name. (So Miro is kirk then.)

In case that isn't clear enough for you. I don't really care what you think of me, my credibility, or anything else. You are nothing more than a screen name.

And if English isn't your strong suit, try this. Yob Tovoyu maht.
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T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
From Trajan:
quote:
And you still, Kurk, can't provide the link to the test or list the oil companies in the law suits that you've claimed they were aimed at.All you can do is parrot the company line.


Same old, same old.

Admit the accusations. Or deny with explanation.

That's how to gain respect. Liars cannot be trusted.


Glad you agree. So you'll stop defending Kurk/miro.

Oh, by the way. I said it was used in a Z4. (The Datsun/Nissan Zs are referred to as Zs by the way.)

I never said that it was bought for a Z4.

And no I'm not going to ask him what car it was bought for, or when he bought it, or anything else.

It is none of your concern. Your only concern is answering the questions put forth to you if you are interested in selling the product.

I know you prefer that people just take your word, but your word isn't good enough.

Do I have to explain the difference, or can you figure it out for yourselves.

And while you're pondering that, where is the link for all these tests you claim to have run, but yet can't link to?

A link that does not go to a suspect site as they do.
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B bigbearMember
Miro, you are not doing very well in this THREAD, and I am sure you know that and everyone agrees with me.

How come you have not been posting on BITOG under your other username, Captain Kirk.

How come your buddy jonny-b is not posting on BITOG.

Is there something about your product that is Top Secret.

I am trying to get answers from you, will you continue to dodge my questions and everyone else's.
T trajanMember
Sound familiar?

http://www.imionline.org/2001prod_serv_dir_p15.html

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http://hpn.asu.edu/archives/May98/0280.html

a company called PHC, which is
trying to market a synthetic engine oil, SynthaShield, used in governmental
and industrial machinery since 1969.


http://groups.google.com/group...eld#630ca3dc5d9bfcad

The main advantages of Synthashield over other motor oils are


1. Saves You Time: You don't have to change oil every 3,000 miles.


2. Saves You Money: $400 - $500 in oil changes over the useful life of
the vehicle.


3. Saves You Fuel: Test show 5% - 8% fuel savings, meaning approx. $300
over the life of the vehicle.


4. Saves Resources / Environment: Saves 150 qts. of oil over 100,000 miles.


5. Saves Hazardous Waste: At the end of the 100,000 mile useful life,
Synthashield is returned to the plant, recycled and placed back into
useful service.


6. Saves Your Engine: Synthashield significantly reduces mechanical
friction and wear. Fleet tests show up to 3 times longer automobile
engine life when used in new vehicles.

http://refrigeratedtrans.com/m...ashield_extends_oil/

Synthashield can reduce vehicle operating costs up to 10% by extending oil change intervals to 100,000 miles and increasing fuel mileage up to 8%. It eliminates decomposition, oxidation, and formation of harmful deposits such as gum, varnish, and sludge in the engine.

Originally developed for jet engines and later for space flight, the product features tiny, finely milled man-made particles of graphite, moly, and PTFE colloidally suspended in a 97%-pure base of multi-viscosity lubricants.

The five synthetic liquids in the formula are thermally stable at temperatures from -65 degree F (-54 degree C) to more than 500 degree F (260 degree C). The solids in Synthashield act as miniature ball bearings in the engine, reducing friction, preventing metal-to-metal contact, and reducing engine wear. Other benefits include reduced oil consumption, decreased emissions, improved performance, better cold start-ups, better dry start-ups, and less impact on the environment. Synthashield is completely recyclable.
T trajanMember
So again, link to the FTP-75 test. Link to the AAA test. Not that website

So far, and over and over, all we get are the same "tests". Word of mouth.

It is the offical documents that are wanted. This so called AAA test for example. Kirk/miro has the constant refrain "Google it".

Well kiddies, it has been. It is only mentioned on the already suspect synlube, or is it used to known as synthashield, site. Nothing about Ford. Nothing about the AAA.

Why is that?

All we get is screaming from the cult. About profiles. Multiple identies. Not using 'real' names. VIN numbers. People who dare ask tough questions. Grammar. Accusations that people who work for Shell but are paid by Exxon. Claims that class action suits against car makers are because of oil and not faulty engines.

Everything and anything except what matters. Answers about a product that it is more than clear has something to hide.

Not the way to convince people a product is worth using.
M mirokefurtMember
go to www.ftc.gov

Search SHELL and PEP

Then you will understand why an unemployed, ex PEP salesman (TRAJAN) has so much grudge agains SynLube.

Whe wanted to sell that stuff to our customers, and while he succeeded to con CASTROL, BLUE CORAL and others, he did not expect that AAA will rund a FTP-75 test on the PEP additive and that the results will end up at EPA, FTC, DoE.

Fired by SHELL abandoned by his wife and loosing his $2.3 million commision on sales of PEP, and the poor guy lost it. (Mentally)

So they finally released him from the instittion and he is now and a revenge binge against SynLube.

But this time around it may not be a cosy mental institution that you will end up in....

NOT TRUE ?

Well the publish you TRUE and verifiable identity, NAME, ADDRESS, you know the drill...

After all if you are just a virtual existence on Internet with sole purpose in life to bash SynLube, what are you affraid of?
M mirokefurtMember
OH And I forgot, you are contacting us from the other side, glad to know Internet works there !!!

Full name Marcus Ulpius Traianus
(from birth to adoption);
Caesar Marcus Ulpius Nerva Traianus (from adoption to accession);
Caesar Marcus Ulpius Nerva Traianus Augustus (as emperor)
Born 18 September 53(53-09-18)
Birthplace Italica, ancient Hispania
Died 8 August 117 (aged 63)
Place of death Selinus, Cilicia
Buried Rome (ashes in foot
of Trajan's Column, now lost.)


PS: Your Chariot may need some lube, the weels as squeaking !!! It is waking up the un-dead in the uderworld - SHUSH, SHUSH ....
T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Nice work Trajan. You think Miro wanted you to Google AA instead? Maybe that's what he meant. After all you'd have to be stone cold drunk to pour that $32/bottle muck in an engine.

AD


To quote the late Billy Mays, "Wait, there's more."

http://mercurynv.htu.myareaguide.com/

Look up synlube or mirox

Notice how miro can't do anything but repeat the same pitch.

miro, that's Imperator Caesar Divi Nervae Filius Nerva Traianus Optimus Augustus Germanicus Dacicus. Parthicus, Pontifex Maximus, Tribuniciae potestatis XXI, Imperator XIII, Consul VI, Pater Patriae. To you.
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A adfd1Member
Miro...............Trajen bashing Synlube, no. I look at him as a public servant looking for truth, so people don't get caught up in your little scam. Up to this point you haven't shown any proof, NOTHING. Take the con game somewhere else, this board isn't buying, and they are growing tired of your nonsense and lies.

AD
T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Miro...............Trajen bashing Synlube, no. I look at him as a public servant looking for truth, so people don't get caught up in your little scam. Up to this point you haven't shown any proof, NOTHING. Take the con game somewhere else, this board isn't buying, and they are growing tired of your nonsense and lies.


AD


I'm not the only one, but I am the favorite target Smile
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by ADFD1:
Miro...............Trajen bashing Synlube, no. I look at him as a public servant looking for truth, so people don't get caught up in your little scam. Up to this point you haven't shown any proof, NOTHING. Take the con game somewhere else, this board isn't buying, and they are growing tired of your nonsense and lies.

AD


AFD1....the only person busted for fabricating lies is trajen.


AFD1....would you please post something that makes sense and is relevant!!

Trajen is no public servant by the way......... He is a public nuisance!!.......I am the one on this forum who is the public servant because of my JOB AND WHERE I WORK THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! Yes....I actually have a JOB!!!

I never said that big oil was sued in court for sludge. I stated major issues with sludge and class action lawsuits. Big oil is a GIANT CARTEL(OPEC) with deep pockets half running the world and has the best lawyers and the most powerful legal dream team in the world!!

The engine sludge is what is relevant!!

Would someone accept the challenge of why all those cars with sludge all had store bought name brand oil.

NO sludge in any of those cars with either synlube...or amsoil. I just gave a plug to amsoil if you haven't noticed.

The issue at hand is why I use synlube. The name brand oils on the shelves has not held up well in modern day high tech engines...the sludge and emission issues proves that.

The EPA,and government in general is putting tremendous pressure on the automaker to build cleaner running cars,better emission systems,better fuel economy ect. Why not big oil as well?

The motor oil in stores is not keeping up with automotive technology...that has always been the case!!

The fuel at the pumps is also an issue. Just look at all the money spent on fuel injection services and bottles of fuel system cleaner on the shelves. It's a billion dollar business!!

Only some service stations offer top tier gas which also has some issues and needs a boost of techron or shell v-power at times. I use shell. All the other top tier gas has left my state...why? My VW 1.8T has major driveability and starting issues with all the other gasoline...ONLY VERY SLIGHT ISSUES WITH TOP TIER FUEL. One bottle of cleaner solves all my issues for a while. Low quality fuel is a major issue as is low grade motor oil typically purchased in stores or installed from bulk oil at your favorite repair shop!!....The very same shop with the engine flush machine for sludge,and the very expensive fuel injection service you pay plenty over and over. I think some of you must have a love affair with big oil!! To hedge my bet,I have invested in some oil stocks!!

Poor fuel and motor oil is a proven issue that you can't deny if you're head is not in the sand!!
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J jonny-bMember
http://www.ftc.gov/os/1999/09/shellcomplaint.htm

Found this link, where Shell got busted.
Do you think they want something good for their customers?

Trajan, I think that if it is so that you lost all the provision from this PEP sales, your wife and your mind, this can explain your writings here....

And why you don't care about other things, than bashing Synlube.
I still live in Norway, Europe, and I gave you my phone number to call me, but I haven't heard from you.
This was just so that you should be able to check that I am a real person.
I guess this Trajan thing doesn't like facts, so much.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by jonny-b:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/1999/09/shellcomplaint.htm

Found this link, where Shell got busted.
Do you think they want something good for their customers?

Trajan, I think that if it is so that you lost all the provision from this PEP sales, your wife and your mind, this can explain your writings here....

And why you don't care about other things, than bashing Synlube.
I still live in Norway, Europe, and I gave you my phone number to call me, but I haven't heard from you.
This was just so that you should be able to check that I am a real person.
I guess this Trajan thing doesn't like facts, so much.


You are so correct! Nice description of trajen for what he is.

Trajen has never answered any of my challenges as well on that note.

He never retracted his lies......TRAJENS credibility...........SUB ZERO......... MAKE THAT 40 BELOW ZERO!!!

TRAJEN IS NOW OFFICIALLY BACKGROUND NOISE!!
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C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Big Bear:
Miro, you are not doing very well in this THREAD, and I am sure you know that and everyone agrees with me.

How come you have not been posting on BITOG under your other username, Captain Kirk.

How come your buddy jonny-b is not posting on BITOG.

Is there something about your product that is Top Secret.

I am trying to get answers from you, will you continue to dodge my questions and everyone else's.


Miro and captain kirk are two different people. Look at the writing style,..little bear.

I have noticed that budman on the other site under synlube UOA is doing a very nice job with pictures of his engine and inside valve cover proving that the synlube works in his saturn and other car..mazda? I will let him continue, sit back, and watch since he is the one providing the proof you all have requested. He apparently has plenty of respect on that site as well. None of the posters have been disrespecting him at this point.

Perhaps I will follow his lead and get some pics of my cars engines/oil and inside the oil fill cap and post them.

I have also decided that the other site based on some of the posts/public profile is..................kindergarten! Have you read some of the posts!! Ridiculous!! Juvenile!! Enough said on that note!!
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M mirokefurtMember
(a) 4-[N-(2,4-xylyl) Carbamoyl] morpholine;

(b) 1-[N-(2,4-xylyl) Carbamoyl] piperidine; and

(c) 1-(2-Pyridyl)-3-(3,4-xylyl)-2-thiourea.

Not only that the peddler (well he claimed to be inventor, but his name is not even on the patent)
of PEP sold it as "fuel" additive, this was also claimed for oil additive use:


""Another preferred method of introducing the ORR agents of the present invention into the combustion zone is to add the agent to the crankcase lubricating oil which is eventually conducted to the walls of the combustion chamber, e.g. via the lubricating oil film from the ring swept area of the cylinder.

The lubricating oils to which the agents of the present invention are added include any conventional synthetic or mineral oil-based lubricating oil.

Lubricating oils having an SUS viscosity at 100° F. between about 50 and 1000 may be used.""

While he never succeeded to sell it to anyone for oil additive purpose, I being totally open minded and naturally curious about any "new" or "old" technology had to test it before we would even consider using it, no matter the hype from SHELL. This was claimed in the video/trifold promoting the PEP citing the patent language:

*****

That is how he got busted

When we did that (3 different oils not just SynLube) there was significant increase of iron deposits on the FilterMagnets that we have always used on all our test vehicles, and the instant the motor oil was changed back to one without PEP this extraordinary wear did not occur.

So then we ran the "fuel" test and found PEP worthless, but at least not so damaging as it was in the lube oil.

"Another preferred method of introducing the ORR agents of the present invention into the combustion zone is to add the agent to the crankcase lubricating oil which is eventually conducted to the walls of the combustion chamber, e.g. via the lubricating oil film from the ring swept area of the cylinder. "

I could write whole book about it, but this web is not the place to do it.

I am personally not sure who is more guilty SHELL or the "inventor", well at least SHELL has now another useless additive "NITROGEN" as if 80% of nitrogen in Air was not enough (only oxygen supports combustion), now they have add NITROGEN into Gasoline - they even advertise that it has "benefits" - WOW

By contrast the PEP peddler did not fare as well and now his only purpose in life is to run never ending "SynLube" posts.


Well my advice is go fill up at "Turkey Hill" - that is personal joke only Trajen will understand !!!

And if you are really dying to try this stuff:

Aldrich Chemical Company, Inc.

has the "secret blend" individual chemicals!

And no they do not even have a drop of anything that SynLube is made from (or contains).
I inhaliburtonMember
Posted by Capt. Kirk

quote:
I have also decided that the other site based on some of the posts/public profile is..................kindergarten! Have you read some of the posts!! Ridiculous!! Juvenile!! Enough said on that note!!


I stumbled across that thread just yesterday. I plowed through 7 or 8 pages hoping that the insults and mud slinging would eventually dry up. Nope. Didn't happen. No way I could fathom torturing myself by reading another 45 pages of that venom.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by inHaliburton:
From Trajan:

quote:
AAA Project Identification Number: 81Project Number: 2002-0317-1Link to test that does not lead to your website.


Thanks for taking the time off from the BOBALOO forum to come over here to post more of your less than useless musings. Here's hoping that you soon gain employment that matches your intelligence.



NICE JOB!! WELL SAID!!


NOTICE HOW THE BACKGROUND NOISE(TRAJEN), HAS BEEN SILENCED!!
M mirokefurtMember
quote:
AAA Project Identification Number: 81

Project Number: 2002-0317-1


Any test Data and Results are the property of AAA since it is a non-profit organization established solely to serve its members and therefore following is the standard agreement.
Other than the company that sponsored the test, only EPA and CARB has legal access to the data, any time during the normal business hours of the ARC.
AAA or ARC does not publish any test data or information about them, especially not on the Internet.
“The undersigned will not transmit to any other person or organization or otherwise publish or permit to publish any information concerning the said evaluation test, including test data developed in the conduct thereof, without the prior written permission and approval of Automobile Club of Southern California Automotive Research Center”
T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
I have noticed that budman on the other site under synlube UOA is doing a very nice job with pictures of his engine and inside valve cover proving that the synlube works in his saturn and other car..mazda?


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...umber=1842865&page=7

I do wish that some of these tests he mentions could be verified with actual scanned proof or internet links or something. Also verified documents of NASA/JPL using Synlube would also go a long way compared to hearsay. Or being able to show conclusively he is manufacturing his own product. But as his business, that is his problem.

And this gem: But I ended up having to meet someone in a parking lot who then sold it to me from his trunk. I remember at the time thinking, "ok, that was weird". I just spent $150 bucks and place didn't have a location I could go to.
T trajanMember
quote:
Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
quote:
AAA Project Identification Number: 81

Project Number: 2002-0317-1


Any test Data and Results are the property of AAA since it is a non-profit organization established solely to serve its members and therefore following is the standard agreement.
Other than the company that sponsored the test, only EPA and CARB has legal access to the data, any time during the normal business hours of the ARC.
AAA or ARC does not publish any test data or information about them, especially not on the Internet.
“The undersigned will not transmit to any other person or organization or otherwise publish or permit to publish any information concerning the said evaluation test, including test data developed in the conduct thereof, without the prior written permission and approval of Automobile Club of Southern California Automotive Research Center”


You're full of crap. Post the link or it didn't happen.

Claiming to pass tests that can't be checked, yeah, sure.
M mirokefurtMember
quote:
FTP-75


FTP/HFTP are published in Federal Register section 40 CFR Part 86 and Part 600.

It is the only Government and Automobile Industry in USA recognized test for Fuel Economy, Emissions, and if repeated at 50K and 100K for the durability of the vehicle or the "tested systems"

150K testing is "optional" for claims related to PZEV vehicles (California Only).

The FORD Crown Vic was tested at the mileages indicated on our web

This fact was verified by performance of several emission tests as specified in Code of Federal Regulations section 40 Part 86 and part 600, immediately before and after SynLube™ Lube4Life® products installation (16,532 miles and 16,996 miles respectively) as well at 49,126; 74,021 and 100,180 total miles on the vehicle.

The documentation is on file with AAA, EPA, and FORD which is enough for any legal chalenge, but aparently not enough to ward of lunatics....
M mirokefurtMember
quote:
Trajan


In my case the crap will be gone by no latter than tomorrow morning as my well SynLubed digestive tract works perfectly !!!

You on the other hand will always remain a person who cheats, steals, sells and promotes worthless additives and creates lies, and you will always remain so.

BTW: I have not seen you publishing your "Certificate of Sanity" on the Internet !!!

Publish one, till then I will stil think of you as an insane individual who should have not been let out, just yet !!!

Or offering any proof that you are not the deposed SHELL PEP sales con-man, either - that is to me 100% admission of who you are, and I have nothing more to say to you or will respond to anything you will post from now on.
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by Trajan:
Produce the documents of the tests.

You claim you passed them, then you have to be able to back up those claims.

Otherwsie, you're advertising you did something that never happenned.

Not a smart move if you expect to sell product.



TRAJEN....Why don't you go back to the "other" site where you belong...............KINDERGARTEN!!!

The background noise/garble you produce will blend in rather well over there with all the other crickets making noises!!!
I inhaliburtonMember
Trajan wrote:

quote:
And this gem: But I ended up having to meet someone in a parking lot who then sold it to me from his trunk. I remember at the time thinking, "ok, that was weird". I just spent $150 bucks and place didn't have a location I could go to.


Proves nothing. Could be as simple as meeting at a utually convenient place while running errands, going home, etc. Done that sort of thing many times with my clents.

Wonderful hearing from you again.
I inhaliburtonMember
From Trajan:

quote:
Produce the documents of the tests.You claim you passed them, then you have to be able to back up those claims.Otherwsie, you're advertising you did something that never happenned.Not a smart move if you expect to sell product.


Hey, instead of your continuous demands for information, when are you going to answer the charges that you are a blatant LIAR? Occasionally a thief can be trusted. On the other hand, LIARS can never be believed or trusted. Your silence on the matter is deafening. Talk about a con man! You take the cake!
C captainkirkMember
quote:
Originally posted by snakedoctor:
You synlube people and groupies have a lot of nerve.Ray Charles could have seen through this scam.

You are so full of crap, when you die they can give you an enima and bury you in a match box.


Look everyone...... TRAJEN HAS MORPHED INTO THE SNAKEDOCTOR JUST THIS MOMENT!! IT'S HIS FIRST POST!! Reincarnation is true!!!
T trajanMember
If only they spent 1/8th of the time answering the questions we ask instead of the purile attacks on those who seek information....

However, when you can't defend your product, you make it about posters.

Typical. Good selling technique.

So, where are the documents to the tests that synlube crows they passed?

Why are they so adament on attacking those who want to know instead producing the documents?
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