By same comparison Daihatsu 1990 must be at least twice as good as 1990 BMW M3, after all here are the values:
Excellent $625
Good $525
Fair $325
It is worth less than BMW so it proves it is far superior vehicle, still looking for the one that people would actually PAY YOU to take their car, that would make it the best car ever made !!!
Read our primer articles on High Mileage Oil, Synthetic Oil and Kinematic Viscosity
OH took some time but finally found it the best car of all times ever sold in USA !!!
It is "nearly" worthless, so not as good as ZERO valued car would be:
Excellent $300
Good $225
Fair $138
1990 Sterling, and OH add Moon Roof which gets stuck in perpetually open position, and that reduces the value another $50.
After all it is superior feature to have "open" car that way more people can enjoy the incredible almost 10 times better than BMW engineering - correct after all it is worth 1/10 of 1990 M3......YA!!!
Why some (and the same) people have to always deny truth and reality? Because admitting they have made mistake or unsupported claim is so painful to them. But it also reveals their character, those that can not admit they are wrong or at least incorrect sometimes; do not have any character to speak of.
“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong !”
“All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed;
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
“Those who have failed to accept the truth have missed the purpose of living.
“I quote others only to better express myself” !
It is "nearly" worthless, so not as good as ZERO valued car would be:
Excellent $300
Good $225
Fair $138
1990 Sterling, and OH add Moon Roof which gets stuck in perpetually open position, and that reduces the value another $50.
After all it is superior feature to have "open" car that way more people can enjoy the incredible almost 10 times better than BMW engineering - correct after all it is worth 1/10 of 1990 M3......YA!!!
Why some (and the same) people have to always deny truth and reality? Because admitting they have made mistake or unsupported claim is so painful to them. But it also reveals their character, those that can not admit they are wrong or at least incorrect sometimes; do not have any character to speak of.
“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong !”
“All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed;
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
“Those who have failed to accept the truth have missed the purpose of living.
“I quote others only to better express myself” !
quote:Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:quote:ADFD1
In 1990 you could get 3 YUGO's for a price of one M3 BMW
Today you can get 2 used M3 (1990) for a price of ONE used YUGO (1990).
Funny how that proves your theory tested over 20 year time period.
May the best car be worth-less !!!
You're funny. In 1990 Yugo was garbage, and anyone in their right mind would have passed on the 3 Yugo's and took the BMW M3. Today Yugo represents, garbage, junk, a mistake of a car, in a car collectors garage.
I'm sure when a father and son visit a car collection if there is a Yugo in the collection the father probably says to the son something like this: "Son you see that POS, they were throw away death traps back in the day, total junk." That was what my father told me when I mentioned the Yugo discussion in this thread.
BTW- Miro some engines by design use oil, its not the fault of the oil, nor the owner of the car. It's just a fact of life.
AD
And yet, the M3 is still in production. Why do you suppose that is miro? Tell me, how many 2009 Yugo were sold here?
A 1990 Corvette could buy alot of Yugos as well. As could a 1990 911. A Rolls Royce silver spur. Bently. Lamborghini Diablo. Lincoln. In 1990, good used cars were worth more than a new Yugo.
Today, those cars, used, are worth far, far, more, than a Yugo.
And at least you can stop any of them on a bridge and not get blown off it by high wind.
Poor guy, One of his fans refuses to use his juice. No one else here is either. His precious Yugo is the joke of the auto industry. His, and his minions, knowledge of auto engineering is laughable.
Oh, I forgot. As I pointed out in another thread, a used Yugo goes for $10. So tell me miro, just where can I buy this $5 M3? I want to buy a few.
NATO did the world a huge favor when they bombed the factory.
A 1990 Corvette could buy alot of Yugos as well. As could a 1990 911. A Rolls Royce silver spur. Bently. Lamborghini Diablo. Lincoln. In 1990, good used cars were worth more than a new Yugo.
Today, those cars, used, are worth far, far, more, than a Yugo.
And at least you can stop any of them on a bridge and not get blown off it by high wind.
Poor guy, One of his fans refuses to use his juice. No one else here is either. His precious Yugo is the joke of the auto industry. His, and his minions, knowledge of auto engineering is laughable.
Oh, I forgot. As I pointed out in another thread, a used Yugo goes for $10. So tell me miro, just where can I buy this $5 M3? I want to buy a few.
NATO did the world a huge favor when they bombed the factory.
I can't believe anyone with any level of intelligence can even mention a Yugo as being even remotely good. That alone tells me to stay clear of his oil. He would have been better off never mentioning the word Yugo. Ask anyone who drove one what they thought of it. My dad and his buddy test drove one for S&G, he said pathetic would have been a tremendous compliment for it. They laughed all the way home from the dealership.
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Well the three have demostrated, again, their overall level of knowledge of oil and engineering.
A side note. How cool is this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38211262
General Motors Co. said Monday that buyers who order a 2011 Corvette Z06 or ZR1 can help assemble their cars' high-performance LS7 and LS9 engines. The automaker believes the program is the first of its kind in the industry.
How many Yugos can you buy for that, let alone the price of a ZR1?
A side note. How cool is this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38211262
General Motors Co. said Monday that buyers who order a 2011 Corvette Z06 or ZR1 can help assemble their cars' high-performance LS7 and LS9 engines. The automaker believes the program is the first of its kind in the industry.
How many Yugos can you buy for that, let alone the price of a ZR1?
Cool. I'd bet if Yugo had a program like that they'd hand you a hammer and screwdriver and call it a day.
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Maybe its just me, but I don't see a car using a qt of oil in 6000 miles an oil burner. Most if not all engines use some oil, the amount varies. A qt in 6000 miles is not an oil burner, in fact it is far from it. Just ask anyone who really knows engines, not some internet wanna be.
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Same here, I do about 5-6K in 6 months, and change the oil in June/December. Those months carried over from when I lived in NY, just before the heat, or real cold weather. It would be slightly lower on the stick but not enough to add any oil.
Still a qt in 6,000 miles is nothing. I'd think a little oil making it to the top of the cylinders is a good thing, especially if the car sits for days at a time before getting used again.
AD
Still a qt in 6,000 miles is nothing. I'd think a little oil making it to the top of the cylinders is a good thing, especially if the car sits for days at a time before getting used again.
AD
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Malcolm Bricklin, he of the Bricklin SV1, wouldn't be satisfied until he had forced every American to walk to work. To that end, in 1985, he began importing the Yugo GV, which turned out to be the Mona Lisa of bad cars. Built in Soviet-bloc Yugoslavia, the Yugo had the distinct feeling of something assembled at gunpoint. The engines went ka-blooey, the electrical system — such as it was — would sizzle, and things would just fall off. Yugo. Or not.
They have value as a mistake, junk, garbage, trash, a POS, and a good laugh to collectors. For that people might spend nice money to have one now.
AD
quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Malcolm Bricklin, he of the Bricklin SV1, wouldn't be satisfied until he had forced every American to walk to work. To that end, in 1985, he began importing the Yugo GV, which turned out to be the Mona Lisa of bad cars. Built in Soviet-bloc Yugoslavia, the Yugo had the distinct feeling of something assembled at gunpoint. The engines went ka-blooey, the electrical system — such as it was — would sizzle, and things would just fall off. Yugo. Or not.
They have value as a mistake, junk, garbage, trash, a POS, and a good laugh to collectors. For that people might spend nice money to have one now.
AD
One of those "they're so bad they're good" things. Like Ed Wood's "Plan 9 from Outer Space."
On autotrader.com, there is a 1990 M3 going for $14,995.
You said you could buy 2 of those for the price of a 1990 yugo.
Let's see the the $29,990 Yugo. (Hint, they don't have one.)
You said you could buy 2 of those for the price of a 1990 yugo.
Let's see the the $29,990 Yugo. (Hint, they don't have one.)
quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:
Cool. I'd bet if Yugo had a program like that they'd hand you a hammer and screwdriver and call it a day.
AD
HAHAHA!!!!
Actually, back in the early Model T days, impatient buyers would go to the factory, ask which one was theirs, and help build it.
Senseless essay. But anyway you slice it, a quart of oil in 6k is well within limits, especially considering oil spray jets and low tension rings.
Mazda rotary engines spray oil into the chamber as well, and yet, he, or the other stooges, have nothing to say about it. But I digress.....
Yugos are garbage. On the top ten list of any respected commentator's list of worst cars. Even Bricklin gave up on them in favor of a Chinese car.
Worst car of the millennium according to Car Talk.
Mazda rotary engines spray oil into the chamber as well, and yet, he, or the other stooges, have nothing to say about it. But I digress.....
Yugos are garbage. On the top ten list of any respected commentator's list of worst cars. Even Bricklin gave up on them in favor of a Chinese car.
Worst car of the millennium according to Car Talk.
The mazda is different than yours. Piston engines spray the bottom of the piston crown,not the combustion chamber. This has lots of benefits with very little or no down side. Diesels have used them since the beginning of time.
quote:Originally posted by BLK98MK8LSC:
The mazda is different than yours. Piston engines spray the bottom of the piston crown,not the combustion chamber. This has lots of benefits with very little or no down side. Diesels have used them since the beginning of time.
Ahhhhhh. Thanks. I was thinking the top of the crown.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Senseless essay. But anyway you slice it, a quart of oil in 6k is well within limits, especially considering oil spray jets and low tension rings.
Senseless my foot. Personally, I found it very interesting and informative. It's a real pity what North Americans must pay for vehicles. If it were not for the recent recession, we would be paying several thousands of dollars more than we already are.
That still doesn't change the fact that engine is poorly designed.
quote:Mazda rotary engines spray oil into the chamber as well, and yet, he, or the other stooges, have nothing to say about it. But I digress.....
Sorry, someone should have mentioned that.
quote:Yugos are garbage. On the top ten list of any respected commentator's list of worst cars. Even Bricklin gave up on them in favor of a Chinese car.
Try telling us something different instead of parroting AD.
quote:Worst car of the millennium according to Car Talk.
In its day, it had its place. Pity the auto makers won't give us much in the 10K range. I think there may be one or two offshore vehicles. If they did, they wouldn't be able to keep up. Sure does make you wonder...
Two things:
inHaliburton
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Posted Jul 27, 10:10 AM Hide Post
This may eventually prove to be the best stuff since sliced bread, but with virtually no testing results, API ratings on their product, and documentation except that on the Synlube site, I wouldn't put this stuff in my engine, even for nothing. Remember Slick 50?
In the above post he will not put this stuff in his motor, and yet attacks anyone who questions it.
inHaliburton
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Posted Jun 20, 6:22 PM Hide Post
Beats me how those who have no experience with a product can argue with those who have.
This post is self explainatory. So the question arises. Since he has no experience with a product, a BMW, why is he argueing with those who not only have experience with it, but own one?
Not really a problem then??????
In an earlier thread, he was shown to be a liar. (Find that thread you said I trashed yet? You know, the one you made up thinking no one would catch it? Too hard to check your facts first.) Now hypocrite can be added.
A hypocritical liar. A winning combination.
inHaliburton
Level 4 - 251 to 500 posts
Posted Jul 27, 10:10 AM Hide Post
This may eventually prove to be the best stuff since sliced bread, but with virtually no testing results, API ratings on their product, and documentation except that on the Synlube site, I wouldn't put this stuff in my engine, even for nothing. Remember Slick 50?
In the above post he will not put this stuff in his motor, and yet attacks anyone who questions it.
inHaliburton
Level 4 - 251 to 500 posts
Posted Jun 20, 6:22 PM Hide Post
Beats me how those who have no experience with a product can argue with those who have.
This post is self explainatory. So the question arises. Since he has no experience with a product, a BMW, why is he argueing with those who not only have experience with it, but own one?
Not really a problem then??????
In an earlier thread, he was shown to be a liar. (Find that thread you said I trashed yet? You know, the one you made up thinking no one would catch it? Too hard to check your facts first.) Now hypocrite can be added.
A hypocritical liar. A winning combination.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
In an earlier thread, he was shown to be a liar. catch it? Too hard to check your facts first.) Now hypocrite can be added.
A hypocritical liar. A winning combination.
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Trajan,you're talking only about yourself,and spot on.........the biggest liar on these boards! WE ALL KNOW IT!
You are the liar,the hypocrite,and the story teller. You were caught way back when you lied to annie_oakley!
You are the only one on these threads who got caught lying with that bogus story you fabricated saying your 'imaginary' neighbor was using Synlube,and sludged his engine!
WE ALL REMEMBER THAT FOOT IN THE MOUTH LIE YOU FIRST TOLD ANNIE!
STILL NO REBUTTAL...........NOW MANY MONTHS LATER.........LIAR!!!!!!
That was the day you lost any ounce of credibility you may have had.........now you have Zero...........like the oil my cars don't burn.........ZERO.....even at over 17k on just the oil.........and it's ZERO oil use!
My last buick had almost 180k,which I bought used with 100k,and it burned almost Zero....just to compare!
Just wondering...besides the oil burning,and the much needed engine flushes.........how much power has your car now lost due to lower compression in the engine now that it's cracked 100k...........they are known to lose quite a lot of power beyond 100k-like yours, and burn oil too,(like yours)......that is,when you use the 'approved' oil that barely meets a "minimal" spec,instead of something much,much better....and then ruin the engine with minimal 'approved oil'.....
You and I both know you have noticed a sizable loss of power from your engine and you are thinking of a rebuild to put the life back in that now........tired old,oil burning engine of yours.
Here let me help you start the process.....those Italian-(tune-ups) have worn out the engine...
http://www.bavengine.com/
Maybe you can get a new...'free'-engine/repair if you qualify.....
http://members.roadfly.com/jason/m3engines.htm
Since there has been much talk about the Yugo..........here are some fun facts.......
http://www.slate.com/id/2241530/pagenum/2
It's the car that keeps on giving............
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.c...ty-interest-in-yugo/
http://wikicars.org/en/Fiat_127
quote........(Fiat 127=Yugo)
* In 1972 the Fiat 127, was the car of the year in Denmark, awarted by FDM.
* Also in 1972 it was named European Car of the year
Read more: Fiat 127 - Wikicars
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
http://www.slate.com/id/2241530/pagenum/2
It's the car that keeps on giving............
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.c...ty-interest-in-yugo/
http://wikicars.org/en/Fiat_127
quote........(Fiat 127=Yugo)
* In 1972 the Fiat 127, was the car of the year in Denmark, awarted by FDM.
* Also in 1972 it was named European Car of the year
Read more: Fiat 127 - Wikicars
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
WOW !
Now I know why USED BMW are worth so much (relatively):
"In the event you received owner notification of this Service Action and neglect to have it performed within a reasonable period after notification, or choose not to have the Service Action performed, and the engine fails, the necessary repairs may not be covered under the terms of the warranty. The warranty does not cover damage, which results from negligence, improper operation of the vehicle, or improper maintenance."
How nice of BMW, and I bet they did not sent the letters by registered mail either !!!
Now I know why USED BMW are worth so much (relatively):
"In the event you received owner notification of this Service Action and neglect to have it performed within a reasonable period after notification, or choose not to have the Service Action performed, and the engine fails, the necessary repairs may not be covered under the terms of the warranty. The warranty does not cover damage, which results from negligence, improper operation of the vehicle, or improper maintenance."
How nice of BMW, and I bet they did not sent the letters by registered mail either !!!
Miro: Improper maint would include using a non approve oil. I doubt Synlube was approved by BMW, and if he used your non approved oil and his engine failed you'd change addresses and vanish off the face of the earth.
A qt of oil used in 6000 miles is not an oil burner, get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yugo is still viewed as GARBAGE, get real. Don't you see the pattern? Synlube/Yugo= ______________. I'm sure the members can fill in the blank.
AD
A qt of oil used in 6000 miles is not an oil burner, get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yugo is still viewed as GARBAGE, get real. Don't you see the pattern? Synlube/Yugo= ______________. I'm sure the members can fill in the blank.
AD
His disciple kirk's own links have stated using the wrong viscosity oil is bad.
This synlube, which VOAs have shown to not even be its advertised weight, is not on BMW's list. Or VW, Toyota, Nissan, Ford, Mercedes, GM, Ferarri, Chrysler, Honda, Holden, Jaguar, etc...
Even selling that liquid garbage at $32per, he couldn't afford the testing fees.
It isn't even on API's list.
I see he *still* fails to prove his allegations
I asked some bimmer guys about his comments:
"it's unreadable so I stopped after the first few sentences."
And the next comment:
"As are a lot of Internet diatribes. Seems that grammar and spelling are becoming a lost art. If the poster cannot construct a sentence and at least come close to properly spelling a word (nobody's perfect, so I make some allowances here, like seeing what keys on the keyboard are immediately next to the correct letter) then I don't put much faith in what they are writing about."
Let's see if my fans have the guts to go here: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7 and tell them all that they're wrong.
Oh who am I kidding.... All three will get laughed off.
This synlube, which VOAs have shown to not even be its advertised weight, is not on BMW's list. Or VW, Toyota, Nissan, Ford, Mercedes, GM, Ferarri, Chrysler, Honda, Holden, Jaguar, etc...
Even selling that liquid garbage at $32per, he couldn't afford the testing fees.
It isn't even on API's list.
I see he *still* fails to prove his allegations
I asked some bimmer guys about his comments:
"it's unreadable so I stopped after the first few sentences."
And the next comment:
"As are a lot of Internet diatribes. Seems that grammar and spelling are becoming a lost art. If the poster cannot construct a sentence and at least come close to properly spelling a word (nobody's perfect, so I make some allowances here, like seeing what keys on the keyboard are immediately next to the correct letter) then I don't put much faith in what they are writing about."
Let's see if my fans have the guts to go here: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7 and tell them all that they're wrong.
Oh who am I kidding.... All three will get laughed off.
And to show even further that they have no clue:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...wflat&Number=1196764
Speaks for itself.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...wflat&Number=1196764
Speaks for itself.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
And to show even further that they have no clue:
Speaks for itself.
You mean like this....
http://www.autohausaz.com/bmw-...mw-oil-pressure.html
http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/...6-m3-engine-oil.html
http://forums.bimmerforums.com...owthread.php?t=41116
Hey Trajan...........Looks like you didn't use.........MFG APPROVED OIL...
Here is a Quote regarding the correct-'MFG APPROVED OIL'..........(What you didn't use.).....OOPS!
"I just picked up my car last week (production dated 6/2002). The owner's manual, and everywhere else oil is discussed, states that 10w-60 should be used. I can't find this(OIL) anywhere!"
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...wflat&Number=1682005
THAT'S RIGHT...NEVER SECOND GUESS THE MFG..........."THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING"........
http://www.m5board.com/vbullet...-noise-thoughts.html
I guess that takes Synlube out of the mix too.
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quote:Originally posted by ADFD1:
I guess that takes Synlube out of the mix too.
AD
GUESS AGAIN..........
I won't waste my time. 
AD
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Poor Trajan. Boo hoo. So sad. How childish and immature you are.
Trajan wants us to go to some beamer site.
Show them a link to here and they will see what a goof and liar you are.
We can show them threads that will show them how you treat and detest women.
A link to that car belonging to a neighbour with the sludge engine from using Synlube.
How old are you?
You had better run along now, or you'll be late for kindergarten.
Well?
Trajan wants us to go to some beamer site.
Show them a link to here and they will see what a goof and liar you are.
We can show them threads that will show them how you treat and detest women.
A link to that car belonging to a neighbour with the sludge engine from using Synlube.
How old are you?
You had better run along now, or you'll be late for kindergarten.
Well?
quote:inHaliburton
Level 4 - 251 to 500 posts
Posted Jun 20, 6:22 PM Hide Post
Beats me how those who have no experience with a product can argue with those who have.
Ironic how that comes in handy now. So the big question is.... Will he apply it to himself, miro, kirk? Being that none of them have experience with the M54 engine..... Knowing how he feels about that?
Nah, too much to expect of a hypocrit.
Oh, how the mechanics at both the dealer and the place I deal with laughed it up when I pointed out this thread.....
And when they read about Yugos and synlube..... brought the house down.
Now, tell us all, Trajan, what personal experience have you had with a product that you have had no experience with, namely Synlube? Does that hold true for you, or just we non-beamers?
I suggest that if you were to use Synlube, that smoker if yours may just stop burning up oil.
And you would not have the need to use ARX to clean up that engine, too.
Seriously, think about it.
I suggest that if you were to use Synlube, that smoker if yours may just stop burning up oil.
And you would not have the need to use ARX to clean up that engine, too.
Seriously, think about it.
quote:Originally posted by Trajan:
Oh, how the mechanics at both the dealer and the place I deal with laughed it up when I pointed out this thread.....
And when they read about Yugos and synlube..... brought the house down.
Your insecurity and naiveté come shining through. Had to casually drop by the Beamership for reassurance. That must have been a knee slapper all right. We all wish that we could have been there to share.
Recess is over. Better run along now, or you will be late for cookies and juice.
quote:Ahhhhhh. Thanks. I was thinking the top of the crown.
That indeed is the "crowning" statement that in so few words explains it all !!!
And do not forget to spike the oil with PEP !!!
That is REALLY what all the mechanics were laughing about ..........
Trajan quoted.
Mazda rotary engines spray oil into the chamber as well, and yet, he, or the other stooges, have nothing to say about it. But I digress.....
BK. quoted...
The mazda is different than yours. Piston engines spray(oil) the bottom of the piston crown,not the combustion chamber.
Trajan Quoted.....
[QUOTE ]Ahhhhhh. Thanks. I was thinking the top of the crown.[/QUOTE]
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I cannot believe that someone(Trajan),even after having been on these oil sites for many years now... actually thought that a 4-stroke gasoline powered piston engine......sprayed oil into the combustion chamber onto the piston crown for whatever reason. Like I said.......no mechanical aptitude whatsoever,and that statement really proves it!
///Hey Trajan....... gasoline is also injected into the crankcase.....to--(prevent sludge)....(LOL)///
When Trajan was talking about STOOGES . ........he was unwittingly referring to himself...
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Trajan quoted....
"Oh, how the mechanics at both the dealer and the place I deal with laughed it up when I pointed out this thread".....
Wow, TRAJAN..........I never go to any shops,because I never need to.......and now we find out you need not one,but TWO REPAIR SHOPS!!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF LEMON ARE YOU DRIVING??? No wonder the mechanics were laughing.................they saw it was pay-day again when you arrived and they were just overjoyed and couldn't stop laughing.......AGAIN!!!!!
Mazda rotary engines spray oil into the chamber as well, and yet, he, or the other stooges, have nothing to say about it. But I digress.....
BK. quoted...
The mazda is different than yours. Piston engines spray(oil) the bottom of the piston crown,not the combustion chamber.
Trajan Quoted.....
[QUOTE ]Ahhhhhh. Thanks. I was thinking the top of the crown.[/QUOTE]
quote:Originally posted by Miro Kefurt:
That indeed is the "crowning" statement that in [b]so few words explains it all !!!
And do not forget to spike the oil with PEP !!!
That is REALLY what all the mechanics were laughing about ..........
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I cannot believe that someone(Trajan),even after having been on these oil sites for many years now... actually thought that a 4-stroke gasoline powered piston engine......sprayed oil into the combustion chamber onto the piston crown for whatever reason. Like I said.......no mechanical aptitude whatsoever,and that statement really proves it!
///Hey Trajan....... gasoline is also injected into the crankcase.....to--(prevent sludge)....(LOL)///
When Trajan was talking about STOOGES . ........he was unwittingly referring to himself...
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Trajan quoted....
"Oh, how the mechanics at both the dealer and the place I deal with laughed it up when I pointed out this thread".....
Wow, TRAJAN..........I never go to any shops,because I never need to.......and now we find out you need not one,but TWO REPAIR SHOPS!!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF LEMON ARE YOU DRIVING??? No wonder the mechanics were laughing.................they saw it was pay-day again when you arrived and they were just overjoyed and couldn't stop laughing.......AGAIN!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by BLK98MK8LSC:
Regulations on VOC emissions here have made crankcase ventilation systems very effective moisture traps. CAFE standards are pushing manufacturers to spec lighter oils than they would otherwise use,even if only slightly. Non of these are deal breakers when all you have to do is change your oil to fix it. Forcing 100000 mile catalytic converter life at the expense of safe reliable engine wear protection and sabotaging older engines with mechanical valve trains is a piss poor use of government power,however well intentioned. The engineering responses to regulation are as varied as can be,some are successful,some not. BMW is not immune to this. The crank case ventilation system on some models can fail in very cold weather and suck all the crankcase oil into the intake manifold and cause engine destruction. Not the oils fault unless you count water trapped in it. When the water freezes the valve fails. These may be the failures your referring to.
All of the reasons stated is why it is ever more important to use the absolute best synthetics available,with the lowest Noack VOLATILITY NUMBERS....like SYNLUBE!
Many of the lubes,group III included,are still much to volatile.... almost 15%,and they simply burn off too much!
When these low quality lubes vaporize,not all of the vapors are burned off in the engine,like some would believe.
A portion of the vapors will precipitate out,especially when the engine is shut off,basically fogging the inside of the engine/emission components with oil and moisture,causing a sort of 'milkshake',that eventually chokes the engine to death in many cases!
This condition of 'fogging' occurs worse during the very hot summer seasons that cook off even more of the volatile oils into vapors,followed with fogging down a nice layer of oil,that the colder/damper winters eventually finish off with added moisture....creating the deadly milkshake syndrome,and then eventual engine death in some cases!
The engine,and emission systems are all clogged up and can't breathe,creating a vicious cycle that kills the engine!
NO AMOUNT OF 'ENGINE-FLUSHES' will fix.... the now clogged up emission ventilation system,the damage is done,and oil system flushes will not effect that system!!
By using a very low volatile,and high quality synthetic oil,this deadly cycle will never begin in the first place!
Remember,most of the sludge monsters(sludge lawsuits) occurred in the Northern,colder states.
Cars will also have sludge/varnish/coking,etc, in hot climates,so high quality synthetic is needed for sure in the heat!
quote:Originally posted by Captain Kirk:
Wow, TRAJAN..........I never go to any shops,because I never need to.......and now we find out you need not one,but TWO REPAIR SHOPS!!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF LEMON ARE YOU DRIVING??? No wonder the mechanics were laughing.................they saw it was pay-day again when you arrived and they were just overjoyed and couldn't stop laughing.......AGAIN!!!!!
Good catch, Kirk.
Those crack Beamership(s) service sales guys likely put him into an endless loop ARX cleaning cycle!
What a hoot!
This crap has to stop.
You three want to attack me becaue I use the proper oil, fine.
You want to attack me becaue of a 1qt/6000 mile oil consumption, fine.
The people who design and build these engines don't have a problem with it.
The people who own these cars don't have a probelm with it.
The people who work on them don't have a problem with it.
No one, except you three, have a problem with it. Any of it.
Seperately, each of them have a wealth of experience you can't hope to match.
Together, it's so far ahead of yours that it you couldn't see it even using Hubble.
So, have at it, attack all you want. Whatever helps your collective inferiority complex, but you have neither the experience to bear listening to, or even a coherent position to come from. All you have is attacks. Poor ones at that.
My last post in this thread. Hopefully.
You want to attack me becaue of a 1qt/6000 mile oil consumption, fine.
The people who design and build these engines don't have a problem with it.
The people who own these cars don't have a probelm with it.
The people who work on them don't have a problem with it.
No one, except you three, have a problem with it. Any of it.
Seperately, each of them have a wealth of experience you can't hope to match.
Together, it's so far ahead of yours that it you couldn't see it even using Hubble.
So, have at it, attack all you want. Whatever helps your collective inferiority complex, but you have neither the experience to bear listening to, or even a coherent position to come from. All you have is attacks. Poor ones at that.
My last post in this thread. Hopefully.
Correction none of us have a problem with "it" as we do not own BMW, and nor do 82% of people who drive them, they know better they just LEASE BMW and the next one and next one.... NO worries NO concerns NO problems just making the $600 to $900 a month payments FOREVER……..
The few BMW "owners that get stuck with the second hand cars are those I truly feel sorry for!!!
Have you ever seen any BMW owner on any thread with one or two year car being concerned about anything? NO
They get FREE maintenance and then they just get another one 3 years later - that is the TRUE BMW ownership profile - and those guys and few women could not care less about jet sprays or oil consumption or anything else.
Still 5,000 or even 3,000 miles to a quart when the "typical" BMW is only serviced every 16,500 miles (national average according to BMW themselves) that may be bit too close to comfort on engine with 4.2 Liters of oil (well few have 7) - by simple math there is almost NO oil when the service indicator is on.
And some women do not think they need service until the RED OIL light is ON.
I actually know of one that did just that - one think I have to give credit to MW engine design is that the car still runs - but may be that is what is eating the connecting rod bearings, rather than "strange" combination of contamination and less than acceptable tolerances - that show up 25,000 to 30,000 miles AFTER the car was driven.
Does not BMW check any tolerance when the build the engine?
May be it is just running LOW and OUT of oil that is the real problem, which they just do NOT want to admit to.
Personally I have never seen or heard of engine that would run just fine and then 20,000 + miles latter would fail due to "contamination" during assembly!!!
That is about as believable as spraying oil on top of the piston crown, but of course some people did just that!!!
The few BMW "owners that get stuck with the second hand cars are those I truly feel sorry for!!!
Have you ever seen any BMW owner on any thread with one or two year car being concerned about anything? NO
They get FREE maintenance and then they just get another one 3 years later - that is the TRUE BMW ownership profile - and those guys and few women could not care less about jet sprays or oil consumption or anything else.
Still 5,000 or even 3,000 miles to a quart when the "typical" BMW is only serviced every 16,500 miles (national average according to BMW themselves) that may be bit too close to comfort on engine with 4.2 Liters of oil (well few have 7) - by simple math there is almost NO oil when the service indicator is on.
And some women do not think they need service until the RED OIL light is ON.
I actually know of one that did just that - one think I have to give credit to MW engine design is that the car still runs - but may be that is what is eating the connecting rod bearings, rather than "strange" combination of contamination and less than acceptable tolerances - that show up 25,000 to 30,000 miles AFTER the car was driven.
Does not BMW check any tolerance when the build the engine?
May be it is just running LOW and OUT of oil that is the real problem, which they just do NOT want to admit to.
Personally I have never seen or heard of engine that would run just fine and then 20,000 + miles latter would fail due to "contamination" during assembly!!!
That is about as believable as spraying oil on top of the piston crown, but of course some people did just that!!!
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER REASON WHY I USE SYNLUBE..........SO I DON'T GET SCAMMED BY THOSE OIL CHANGE SHOPS!!!!!!
HOW IRONIC THIS MUST BE TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS! I'M THE ONE WHO IS 'NOT'........GETTING SCAMMED....AND THE OTHER MOTORISTS ARE THE ONES WHO, ARE GETTING SCAMMED.
TALK ABOUT IRONY!!!
http://www.carsdirect.com/car-...mon-oil-change-scams
HOW IRONIC THIS MUST BE TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS! I'M THE ONE WHO IS 'NOT'........GETTING SCAMMED....AND THE OTHER MOTORISTS ARE THE ONES WHO, ARE GETTING SCAMMED.
TALK ABOUT IRONY!!!
http://www.carsdirect.com/car-...mon-oil-change-scams
